Eleison

I wonder when they'll fix the app? 😭 There are too many annoying adds on a browser.

Random aside, but I think it's kind of weird how they don't show much smoking in Kdramas despite the fact that it's SUPER common in Korea. It seems the only representation that's accurate in Kdramas when portraying substance use in Korea is the alcohol consumption. 😅

Last thing: Seok Ryu's ex is not in the cast list, or is he? Also, the little girl connected to Dan Oh is listed as a "guest role" and is just called "park girl"...? But I imagine she'll have a bigger role than that, probably?

I haven't watched Episode 6 yet, so maybe this gets answered in that episode, but why isn't one of the four "Lavender" friends' son friends with Mo Eum, Seok Ryu and Seung Hyo (the friend who dragged all the moms to the buddhist temple to pray)? Wondering if I missed something?

I'm sure someone has said this already, but I love how both sets of leads live "Next Door." It's nice when the title sets up our expectations like that. :)

Yes, I agree with you on this. Also, coworkers in the U.S. wouldn't talk about a pregnancy like that at work as something "embarassing" even for an engaged or dating couple. Unlikely, I'd say!

In The Real Has Come or Fated To Love You they worked the FLs' pregnancies while only dating someone into the whole plot, and I think that's usually a character's entire arc if that happens and they're a lead. Kdramas usually take having babies very seriously. 😅

I think the pregnancy is a stretch, but we'll see! Chris made it seem like it was some embarrassing thing that she took off work for, and that's just not how coworkers in the U.S. would respond to someone at their workplace getting pregnant. It's fairly common in the U.S. for dating and engaged couples to have kids. So I think not on the pregnancy. Maybe she had embarrassing panic attacks in the middle of meetings or something more along those lines?

As for Dan Ho, I think it's possible. I also wonder if he adopted her? But I'm not sure if single men can do that in Korea. 😅 I could see some woman he got entangled with or helped at some point through work convincing him to take the baby for her because she can't and then he becomes the child's "dad" (though he's really just a guardian) because he's a bleeding heart. Just a theory! I could also see her mom coming back to create trouble with him and Mo Eum as the story progresses as another possibility. 💁‍♀️

With an extra "k"? 🫣😅 Whoops.

Well, it is slow burn mixed with slice of life (which is probably the filler scenes you're talking about) so it will progress slowly, especially since they don't seem to have a serial killer side plot. 😉

I don't think anyone knows about him cheating on her yet. I kinda hope they all find out while he's in Korea so everyone can gang up on him and make him feel like a lowlife on her behalf! 😅

She's actually nice and pretty chill!

"Hey, don't mess with Son Ye Jin." 😅

I thought she looked so different! Like I can tell she's the same actress but at the same time she felt unfamiliar. Maybe it's because I haven't heard her speak without the North Korean accent?

Oh, that's what "Original Creator" means?

Well, I can definitely see that OTT and network shows have quite different content and their ratings don't apparently mean the same thing. I will be more alert to these differences moving forward.

It seems most of us hoi polloi Kdrama watchers are not as well-researched or as informed as you. 😉 Please forgive us for spamming the comments with our ignorance.

I think one of the problems with our ability to discuss this is that it seems you define Kdramas more broadly than I do, and my definition includes the formula parameters present from censorship and network TV over the years that has brought about the "Kdrama," for the most part, whereas yours doesn't (from what I can tell, though I know I'm assuming).

To me, just because it has Korean actors, is set/takes place in Korea and generally has 8-16 episodes DOESN'T make it a Kdrama. It's a TV show or a mini series, for sure, but not necessarily a Kdrama. I think that's partly why we're disagreeing. I've never seen an OTT I guess, that's also a sageuk, and I'm probably not the only one hence all the people talking about the surprising content.

I'm not saying R rated stuff doesn't have mature stuff, I'm saying the Kdramas that I'VE seen that were rated mature (the stuff NOT on Netflix or Disney+, for instance) NEVER had sex or nudity. It had mature content, but not THAT kind of mature content. So, I don't expect it when I watch a traditional Kdrama rated mature, because in the past it's never been an issue. I imagine others are reacting the same.

I'm still getting used to knowing how to parse OTT vs. network, but it's comments like the ones you're frustrated with that help me to know whether it's something I want to see, so I don't mind them and rather appreciate them. Sorry we will have to agree to disagree, I think. 🫤

I've seen quite a few 18+ Kdramas and they've never had nudity or sex scenes; without the tags (of which there are none), how are people to know? The comments can help with that.l now, but I bet people went into and got shocked.

I'm not sure about ample amounts (you'd have to show me a list of dozens of examples to get me to believe there's ample Kdramas with nudity/sex that isn't censored when compared against hundreds upon hundreds of dramas). I'm just saying that's probably why people are discussing it.

Also, sometimes the 18+ is just for profanity, smoking and violence, that sort of thing, and doesn't always usyally sex scenes and nudity (I would say most Kdramas (all I've seen) don't have that kind of stuff even with the 18+ rating and I've seen quite a handful).

Besides, the reason why many watch Kdramas is because they're looking for entertainment without that kind of content. And for some people (and largely those who watch Kdramas), it's not trivial. Many Kdrama watchers flock to Kdramas because they can watch fantasy, action and romance without lewd innuendos, gratuitous sex and violence. So, that's why you're seeing lots of people talk about it. They're not used to this! And the tags and description (apart from the 18+ designation) says nothing about sex or nudity. You could always try to add tags, if you want to help change people's expectations, I suppose. 🤷‍♀️

We probably don't see eye to eye on this anyway, but I think it's completely understandable that it's a hot discussion topic here. (But that's just me)

Great points, but such content is very rare in Kdramas typically. That's probably why people are talking about it.

I don't see sex or nudity anywhere in the description on this page or in the tags?