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I would suggest otherwise. 💀
I read the novel (very fast read, like, 20 chapters) too after seeing that comment. It's just one character being r*ped for two-thirds of the story... There's no storyline at all.

With only 3 episodes, the drama shows them having more conversations than the whole novel. I'm not saying the drama is a masterpiece right now. The editing is questionable, and the pacing could be better, but the novel is just r*pe scene after torture scene. I'm really not exaggerating 😅😅

I actually regret reading it because I'm scared the drama will follow the novel. Thankfully, it seems the only thing they're adapting right now is the characters' names. Hope it will continue like that.

Of course, everybody has different tastes and likes different stuff. Just writing this comment as a warning. I enjoy dark storylines, but the novel is not just a "dark" story; it's not even that dark. It's just... graphic r*pe scenes and angst?

We'll see ~~
In the (extremely bad) novel, Mok knows that Hui is a criminal and doesn't care. He would be more annoyed that he has been lied to. He does undercover work purely to mess with Hui, and has zero sense of justice as a policeman (he's not a bad cop/person, but he admits that he's a policeman only 'cause he enjoys messing with people lol).
But the drama is very different from the original work, like 99% different. Only the characters' names are the same. So we'll have to see what will happen 😎

Can we really say it's a misunderstanding, though? 😅
I think Mok knows Hui's isn't all white as a businessman; he asked him a lot if he was doing "shady stuff." But I think he's very angry that his boyfriend is not just "shady" but acting as a gang leader, cutting his own uncle's pinky off. 🤣

It's not common for a BL to start the story with the main couple already "dating" for months.
Love all the flashbacks we have of their domestic moments

I'm not sure what you mean...? Why did you send me a summary of the 2nd episode?

I think you answered the wrong comment. XD
Or maybe I didn't understand you? Sorry, English is not my first language.

To episode 2, I'm sooooooo surprised that my favorite is a GUY. It never happened, the women are always so much more charming than the men in that type of show. I'm shocked that the one I'm most invested in is not one of the girls XD

I just like his normal vibe. He feels like the most normal guy I saw on a dating show.
Not super flirty, not super "knight in shining armor", not overly shy around the opposite sex... Just a normal nice dude who's comfortable with women & men.

But I think Yeji forgot about the part where he said that when he's interested in someone he's very awkward. I feel like he's comfortable with the girls he went shopping with because he's not really interested in that way.

I'm split between liking the "going all out 100 mn on one person" or not.
I don't dislike it, but I don't feel like I could do it... Feels like pushing the other person into spending time with me when they obviously don't want to. ^^'

I feel like I would be like Seonho, where getting 50mn is perfect. I made the move towards you, and you can reciprocate or not. It feels more equal?
But also, it's a dating show, so if you don't fight for it, it can go badly...? ARGH SO HARD.

Of course! He's WuXie's grandpa.
But he and the other Old Mystic Nine won't have a fun ride at all.

Thank you for apologizing.

No problem about the spoiler; you put the tag now, and it was a mistake. I assure you that I did not assume that you had bad intentions. I am sorry that my original wording hurt you, though. Even if it was not my intention, I will be more careful from now on.

Hope you'll enjoy the drama, and that the last two episodes will be great :)

(I'll put spoiler tags on my previous long comments so that our exchange doesn't take too much space in the drama comment section. ^^' )

I agree we are going to stop here. What a fascinating discussion.

"You see me as refusing to take responsibility, while I see you as refusing to acknowledge how your wording could reasonably be interpreted. "

What's interesting is that you're trying to make me understand how my wording can be perceived by others. To be honest, I already know about the basics of communication. I would have gladly, GLADLY, exchanged about it with you in any other circumstance.

A spoiler is not the end of the world. I would never have been this annoyed if it weren't for everything that followed.

You want me to acknowledge that my wording could reasonably be interpreted in different ways. Of course it can. Anyone can interpret anything differently depending on their education, language, culture, age, gender, personal experiences, circumstances... and the same applies to me. I can acknowledge that a million times over.

But for me, that conversation only comes after basic respect has been observed.

I will repeat myself. I am not trying to convince you here. And I don't even care if you take accountability or not. I am annoyed, though, that you are somehow trying to teach me some kind of lesson about communication when you don't respect the fundamentals of it.

I am talking about facts here: you never apologised.

Instead, you immediately acknowledged that you had made a mistake (which is fine), explained that it was an accident (which happens), and pointed out that my wording was ambiguous (which is understandable).

Since you suggested I reread my own comments, I'll quote your below because I don't think you've reread them.

"I'd appreciate it if people would stop jumping to conclusions and at least ask before making assumptions. This was actually my first time ever commenting, I usually just read the comments, but I decided to share how I was feeling. I'd already hit "Post" before I noticed the spoiler tag, and I added it as soon as I saw it. Unfortunately, it might have been too late, but it wasn't intentional."

1st comment. This is primarily an explanation and clarification, with an expression of regret. It is not an apology.

"I genuinely appreciate constructive criticism, and I have no problem being corrected when I'm wrong. In this case, I understand that I should have added the spoiler tag, and I did as soon as I realized it. I accept that.

What I don't agree with is the assumption that I intentionally posted a spoiler without caring. You jumped to that conclusion without asking what happened. Did it ever occur to you that for some people, it might be their first time commenting? This was actually my first time commenting. I usually just read the comments, and I'd already hit "Post" before I noticed the spoiler tag. I added it immediately, but it may have been too late because of the network.

So yes, I made a mistake, but it wasn't deliberate. A simple "Please add a spoiler tag" would have been enough. Instead, you assumed the worst without knowing the full story.

This isn't about whether anyone insulted me or not. It's about acknowledging that making assumptions without first asking is also wrong. Just because I accept my mistake doesn't mean your assumption was justified. Accountability goes both ways. I can acknowledge my mistake, and I think it's only fair that you acknowledge yours too. A little understanding before judgment goes a long way."

2nd comment... Again, this is an acknowledgment of responsibility combined with a defence of your intentions. In other words: "I accept responsibility for my mistake, but I don't accept your assumption that I acted maliciously." It is still not an apology.

"Maybe read your comment again from another person's perspective.

You said, "Spoiling a drama that has finished airing is already bad, but spoiling an ongoing one is really over the top." Whether you intended it or not, that comes across as if you assumed I did it on purpose.

If you had simply said, "Please add the spoiler tag," I would have had no issue with it. In fact, I added it as soon as I realized. But your comment went beyond a reminder and made an assumption about my intentions.

I'm not saying you meant any harm, but it's worth recognizing how your words came across. It was my first time commenting, I'd already hit "Post" before I noticed the spoiler tag, and I corrected it as soon as I could. That's why I said you jumped to conclusions. Not every mistake is intentional."

3rd comment. This one is not an apology as well.
It's a again the same request for me to reconsider my wording and an explanation of your perspective.

Saying "I made a mistake" or "I accept that" is acknowledging responsibility, not apologizing.

I sincerely hope that the next time you make a mistake (and you will, because everyone does, myself included) you'll apologise to the other person first before moving on to explanations or discussions about communication. I think you'll find that conversations tend to go much more smoothly that way.

And I hope you'll enjoy the rest of the drama as well.

I really don't understand what you are talking about.

"Spoiling a drama that has finished airing is already bad, but spoiling an ongoing one is really over the top."
That is self-explanatory? Spoiling an ongoing drama is really not nice? What is this thing about me saying you did it on purpose?
Even if I'm "reading my comment again from another person's perspective," I still don't see it as some kind of hidden assumption about your intentions.
I didn't even think about your intentions!
Most people spoil things because they made a mistake, or just didn't think it through before commenting, or Idk what. What kind of "intentions" are you talking about? I was just asking you to put a tag and saying that's really not cool to spoil !? Why are you searching for some kind of hidden meaning in my words??

Wow...

Wow! What is this situation, seriously... I get spoiled on a drama I really enjoy watching, call out the spoiler saying it's really not cool, and here I am getting some kind of lesson on my wording. WOW!

Now, let's try to get you into my shoes, so that you may, maybe, understand why I am a little hot-headed, right now :

Imagine I bump into you while you were minding your own business, and you get hurt.
When you call me out, saying it's really not nice, I decide to scold you for your reaction, because it was just an accident and I didn't do it on purpose. Nothing else.
When you call me out again for not apologizing, I insist again that you should have worded things differently. I then add that you should really try seeing the situation from my point of view.

Is that... okay? Is it normal that your first and only response to getting called out for a mistake is to make a comment on the other person's wording?

Anyway, you put a spoiler tag on your comment; that's all I wanted. Still got spoiled by you BY MISTAKE, but that's not important after all. What's important is that I should be more careful next time, so that I don't put mysterious hidden accusations behind my wording.
I will be very careful not to accidentally hurt the feelings of the person who just made a mistake that impacted me when I call them out. Even when they don't apologise, I should put myself in their shoes.
We really learn something everyday!

I think he lost his two elder brothers and father in Dart Mountain, but he had remaining family members who were still alive in WuXie's time. The executed guy could be one of them.

A family member who's like a brother, maybe a cousin? Or simply, he had another brother.

I'm kind of scared because we do know Wu LaoGou's story from WuXie's adventures... And it's dark. Maybe I'll just wait for the drama to end to see what they decide to follow or not with this adaptation.

The details of their story were never revealed in the novels, but WuXie assumed they dated and that his grandpa cheated on her with his grandma during his exile after the Purge, and they married.

Which made her hate him even through WuXie's generation. Wonder how it'll play in the drama.

Jumping to conclusions?
I see a comment spoiling (you did not say what exactly happened, but as I said, reading your comment, anybody can immediately guess what it is about); I asked you to put a spoiler. How is that jumping to conclusions?

If I said, "I know you did it on purpose to ruin things for other people. You spoiled ep 14 to me, *add insult* ". That would be wrong, and maybe jumping to conclusions about your intentions. I did not. I asked you to put a spoiler tag and added that it was really wrong to spoil it for other people.

You made a mistake; that's okay. People tell you about your mistake and how to correct it because they got spoiled. That should be okay as well; it's not like anybody insulted you or anything.

The normal follow-up would be to apologise, explain it was a mistake as it was your first time posting, and that would be the end. Not to ask the person you just spoiled to "stop jumping to conclusions and at least ask before making assumptions".

I think QT left a clean shoe for his family to get something back "clean". Not his body, because he knew he would get ... by animals. He wanted to go back to nature, but still knew it would be traumatizing for his family to get only that.
He k*lled himself. It was no accident. That's what CY didn't want QL to know.

I feel heartbroken, but it also feels ... right. Like it's exactly what happens in real life when someone takes such a decision. Often there are no warning signs; sometimes you even feel like they suddenly got better...

My heart. Seriously. T^T

I do feel like finally exploding and talking to his brother was good for him. And learning that he also had feelings for WS... I don't think he was lying. I wonder when he realised WS's feelings... Maybe from the beginning, maybe he was playing dumb to be loyal to his boyfriend...

The poor boy. Even with a loving family and a new love, sometimes it is just not enough to heal.
I can't stop crying.

Put the spoiler tag. Please.
It's obvious what has happened from reading your comment.

Spoiling a drama that has finished airing is already bad, but spoiling an ongoing one is really over the top.

DON'T GO TO THE COMMENTS !!
People are just spoiling everything. And not the good fun type of spoiler that makes you want to watch the drama. Even though this watch is super worth it.

I really mean it. Don't read it.

It does feel a little different from the usual legal drama. Not in a groundbreaking or revolutionary way, but I really like the dynamic between the main trio.

It's very common in Japanese dramas for the "unconventional" protagonist to join a team and gradually change everyone around them for the better. They're usually met with skepticism or outright hostility at first, and then, episode by episode, they transform a dysfunctional workplace into a supportive one.

What's different here is that the "unconventional" protagonist joins a team and... they simply work together. They have different perspectives and working styles, but they discuss those differences like professional adults.

That's what makes this drama feel refreshing.

The male lead is "different," and he's struggled to find a place where he belongs. But the place he eventually finds isn't a group of secretly talented failures he helps rediscover their confidence, or a band of misfits he rescues from injustice, or a team that initially dismisses him because of his "difference" before eventually recognizing his brilliance.

Instead, he was recruited precisely because of his abilities. His speech impediment wasn't overlooked—it was known from the beginning and taken into account. He was accepted as he is. He ends up working alongside two experienced professionals who treat him as what he is: a talented rookie. They challenge him, exchange ideas with him, and respect him without making his "difference" the defining feature of every interaction.

And that's what I like so much.

Yes, his speech impediment is a significant part of his character, but I honestly feel this team would have functioned the same way whether he had it or not. His first real conflict with his senior isn't about his speech at all—it's about his overly passionate rookie mindset. He reflects on it, they talk it through, and they resolve it like... normal adults.

I'm not saying this is an ultra-realistic drama; the synopsis makes it clear that it isn't aiming for that. But I appreciate that, for once, it's a story about a genuinely good person who has been rejected by others, and the team that finally accepts him is simply... a team of good people.

Not because of some coincidence or lucky accident. It makes perfect sense. After being repeatedly rejected because of his speech impediment, the people who finally welcome him are open-minded enough not to judge him for it, and smart enough to recognize his talent without letting his difference get in the way.

I'm so used to dramas where the team has to "discover" that the protagonist is actually amazing despite—or because of—their quirk or difference. Somehow, every new group they meet has to go through the exact same realization.

Here, that part has already happened before the story even begins. The people who hired him already know he's brilliant. The drama isn't about proving his worth to his colleagues—it's about watching competent people work together. And, surprisingly, that feels much more refreshing than the usual formula.