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I'm also watching 1000 Stars as it's released. To me there are a lot of clunky moments and plot holes and low-budget side-effects, but the MC chemistry, Earth's torso and the show's big heart keep me coming back. Favorite series: "Like Love" and sequel, "I Told Sunset About You," "Grey Rainbows" (right up until that horrifying, middle finger to the audience, ridiculously manipulative major incident during the wedding photograph scene. Pissed me off.), "Together With Me" and sequel, "Make Our Days Count" (right up until a very similar, messed up ending like GR's, "Love By Chance" and "TharnType" (with some reservations).

Movies, or series both, I love dark, dark, intense, strange, graphic, twisted and daring drama. For comparison, the beloved "SOTUS" original and sequel make me nauseous.

Just finished the fourth ep. Another...meh.

The whole thing with Type getting angry and jealous over hearing that Techno, who loves to stir the pot, saw Tharn walking with a woman at the mall, is pure silliness. I mean, that could be a hundred different things and if you have any, even a little, trust in your partner, you wouldn't immediately feel threatened and get suspicious and don sunglasses to go the mall to meet what you perceive to be a love rival. Especially after 7 years together and you still love each other completely and fully. Ridiculous.

All the side couples don't really grab my interest. Doc and Champ are kind of sweet and cute, but there's no intrigue there.

And again with everyone in the show being gay, it takes me out of the show, as if all these people exist in a glass bubble somewhere in which everyone is gay. We're only 10% of the population at most, not 90%. lol

I don't have a good feeling about where this is headed at this point, though I will certainly watch the rest of the episodes. Plus, they've made it clear for what?, a year? already in publicity shots and videos, that these two end up married. So where's the suspense in that?

Haven't read any comments or reviews to bias me one way or the other.

WHEN DID EVERYONE IN THIS GROUP OF FRIENDS, ACQUAINTANCES AND FAMILY TURN GAY? Is everyone in Bangkok gay now? I'm gay and even I am annoyed at the unrealism of it. I enjoy the antics of a straight side-couple or two as long as the gay characters remain the overall focus. This fantasy world where everyone is gay takes me out of the story because I'm thinking how bizarre it is.
Why would Type be afraid to come out? Everyone is gay!

Why is there a 16 year-old doctor working at the hospital? Someone needs to call the medical association about this! He would have had to enter med school when he was 10.

I find myself warming to the Thorn character, but the strange obsession with his sister is still going on and gives me the creeps. Creeps are fine, but let the story go somewhere...let him be in love with his sister! :D Let the freak-flag fly! But to throw in that odd fixation to the plot and then do nothing with it...why? This guy is stalking her while she goes around to her various public appearances. What?! And why does Thorn still live at home? lol

So in seven years Thanya grew up and became a famous actress. Really? I don't think so...

What's up with the kid who injured his knee and Leo, who I thought was a friend, but then he walked into the kid's home like he lived there and I thought "oh, they're brothers! This could be juicy!" But during that conversation Leo used the word "friend" in reference to himself so I thought OK, they're friends. But then Leo proceeds further into the house as if he lives there and takes a nap on the couch as if he lives there, and the injured knee kid comes and lays down next to him in an embrace that average brothers and friends do not use. So what the hell?

I continue to adore Tharn and Mew the actor who plays him. He is so effective in that role. His passionate love and adoration of Type is so self-evident in almost every move he makes and in emotions that gleam from his eyes and ripple across his face. I am annoyed with Type half the time because he continues to not fully understand how fortunate he is to have such a handsome, good, gentle, strong, creative guy who loves him sooooooooooo much. To me, Type is quite high-maintenance.

The scene where Type does express his love by straddling Tharn on the dining room chair and sitting in reverse on his lap, just holding him, was lovely. So was the wtf? reaction of Tharn...it was nice to see his surprise and puzzlement turn into joy as he held Type back. Very nice. I teared up before anything was really said just from the emotions flowing out of my laptop screen.

The nurse that works with Type is funny.

So glad Techno is back! Every scene he's in crackles with energy and I love the character. So amusing. But now Techno is gay too! I wish they would have let him stay straight and meet some quirky girl that falls for him. It's fun to see how his facial structure has changed in seven years. I think he's handsome in a quirky way.

Why do Thai people sleep with all the lights on?

I started watching this series today after re-watching TT1 to get set for this experience. Thought I might drop in here every episode or so and leave some thoughts behind.

I don't like the "wifey" thing at all. The idea that one half of a gay couple is the "man" and the other is the "woman." I was hoping they'd drop that for this second season. It's homophobic, it's demeaning to women as the implication is that one of the guys is the bottom, the weaker, feminine, receptive one, all that crap and the other is the manly husband. I wish these two would switch it up on the bottom/top thing. That would be very interesting as a development. I think Tharn would bottom for Type in a minute if he thought he'd lose him otherwise. :D I don't get why it's so hard to understand that in general, in a gay marriage you have two HUSBANDS, there is NO need for a wife. The wifey thing is extremely sexist. We also saw this trope in the elevator early in the ep when another gay couple did the "the husband is strong and the wifey is weak.

I like that they bang away every chance they get, like young men do, but again it would be great if Tharn would give it up once in a while...I worry that Type's butt will fall off if this continues.

The episode felt pretty draggy...I know they have to establish the mood, vibe, timeline and introduce characters in an early ep, but it felt slower than it had to be. Maybe in Thailand people speak comparitively slowly, I don't know, but in TT and now TT2 there are odd pauses between dialogue thta feels odd.

Overall rating: 7

Thank you for the directions. I've only been here three weeks or so and haven't taken the time to check everything out.

Thanks for your post. I learned what a "makjang" is! lol I don't see WBL as a makjang at all. I don't get where the idea that it was would come from.

TharType is one of my five top favorite BLs, so thanks for the info on TT 2. I just rewatched TT1 to prepare for #2 but haven't gotten around to it yet. I love me some over the top, messy, PC-incorrect drama.

I REALLY enjoyed the first season of WBL. I'm surprised at the low number of views you cited here. Where do those numbers come from? Is there a way to watch BLs through MDL? On what site or sites are the views counted that determines a show's success or failure? I've been watching shows through gncee.com but just lately find out those shows are all pirated. I was clueless. I do want to watch where my view will count toward the success of a show I like. What about blofficial.com? Are those pirated? I pay a monthly fee there and would prefer not to support pirated videos.

Got your eye on any other BL or gay-themed Asian film? (I think I was Asian in a past life.)

Why did I include ITSAY in that list, since it's the one we're discussing here? duh lol You know, I find myself charmed by the BL cut of "Love Sick" even though it is twice as long as it needs to be. With a lot of editing, I'd put that one on the above list. Oh, and "Love by Chance."

Thanks! :D

I get you about there perhaps not being enough time in this short drama to fully flesh out the bad behavior of a flawed protagonist and then realistically trace the pattern of his betterment. Which is why the addition of a side-couple annoys me. There is already not enough time to do justice to the main couple, why do we need a side?

I'll just have to admit I disagree that the show to this point is a celebration of bad behavioral choices. I see nothing but sadness, frustration and regret (along with arrogance, presumption and obnoxiousness) as things Shi De has gotten as a result of his bad behaviors. Of course we don't yet know how the consequences of his physicality and drunkenness with Shu Yi will play out. The first one I can think of is that, if he really did have sex with Shi Yu which would be an amazing source of joy to him, he doesn't remember one way or the other because he was wasted. So if it happened, he's been deprived of the gratifying memory. However, I don't think any sex happened at all. I think he probably threw up and passed out while still laying on top of Shu Yi. Shu Yi stripped him down and threw his clothes on the floor just to mess with his head. :D

As far as not caring about the characters, that's a tough one for me. I remain interested in what Shu Yi will do going forward. I know they'll end up together, though I wish Shu Yi would dump Shi De for good. I liked his original plan to get back together with, then dump, Shi De. Does that make me a bad person? :D

You do get that these are fictional characters being played by actors in a studio/set environment, right? This is NOT reality. I am OK with almost anything being depicted. It is all about HOW the depicting is done. And yeah, drunk acting is a foolish/dangerous thing on any set or stage, anytime, anywhere, anytime in the world.

Good lord, it's a movie for adults. You could have stopped watching at any point. Did you? Our entire construct of homosexuality and pedophilia did not exist in ancient times. The boy/man thing was common in early civilizaations.

EXACTLY. We did not have the PC police in ancient times either. They were fortunate.

Another aspect that to me made this film awesome. I spent the final third alternating gasping in horror, crying, or holding my breath in anticipation of one or another devastating plot developments. Utterly powerful.

Those are many of the things that made the movie so powerful! lol To me, it's a stretch to say the king is a pedophile. He is not THAT much older than the guard in my opinion. Besides which, every year young adults and older minors have sexual trysts. It's not the end of the world.

Thank you for putting into words almost exactly how I feel about this film. I sympathized with everyone and no one and maybe that's part of the point: None of us is without serious flaws. I don't see the king as a pedo at all, he wasn't that much older for it to make a difference.

I would argue that is an oversimplification, but yeah, to present the king's lover as going from firmly committed gay lover, both physically and emotionally, to hot to trot 24/7 straight dude didn't ring entirely true. I'm gay and found the film extremely moving and powerful, even so. To me, the general was fascinated by this straight sex, which he'd never had before and the queen came sniffing around constantly, so what's a guy to do? Prior to fucking the queen, the general and king were shown in several scenes interacting as romantic partners, in and out of the sack.

I think you make some valid points, but mostly disagree with your take on the film as a whole. I do remember thinking that the emotional side of this straight "love" was not well-established and that it was like the general was kind of intrigued by this new and unfamiliar kind of sex. Hell, he didn't know the queen as a person at all, how could he love her?

I'm gay but met one woman in my mid 20s with whom I had sex for two years and I was really into it, no need to pretend she was a guy or anything...then that wore off, whatever it was, until I was all-gay again. lol I had never had successful straight sex before I met her.

Also true however, that by the time of the fateful library scene, the general had resolved to end the affair with the queen, but she accosted him there and started acting all hot and bothered until there they were, fucking on the floor.

If I were the king, I might have thrown the general in jail for a while until I calmed down, but I would never cut the goods off that beautiful boyfriend of mine. The king's authentic love for the general was all mixed up with macho posturing, a sense of betrayal by both the queen and the general, and his absolute power. You might remember the guards did NOT want to follow thru on the castration and even hesitated, but he roared at them that they had better fucking follow his orders. That scene wrecked me. I was gasping and crying and you name it...

Regardless, I continue to think of this film as powerful, beautiful and well-acted by the king and general.

Ha. I was losing my shit by the time of the library scene...and totally freaked out at the testicle-related development which immediately followed. Yikes.

What is an "FL" and why do you object to the actress being it? What do you mean by "queer-baiting" as it relates to this film? Do you mean the film being misrepresented as a gay-positive piece?