Romantic interest is not a bad translation but white moonlight is more like a major or unforgettable love interest;…
Ah yes, some people ought to think of all these classic songs where the "Moon represents my Heart", old but still quoted as the epitome of romantic feelings; here it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgB4GTagINM sung by Teresa Teng/Deng Lijun
It's an okay drama, not a masterpiece in my view. I'm still on board because I like Bai Jingting and am curious…
She plays in character : WYF is a living ghost in this part of the story. ZRN does indeed a good job.
I do NOT hate on NanNan, and have no hate either for the small seals, or any actor, actress, and neither for their reasonable fans who support their work without hating on other ones.
As for the adaptation of the book which I read about a year ago, I think both BJT and ZRN were well chosen, but I think the backdrop of the drama is somewhat lackluster as concerns the friends and other support. The first two episodes were fine, the sleepwalking one was underwhelming. I am still on board though, so not thinking it is fit to be dismissed. Just not a 10 for me, yet.
Yes! This is exactly how I feel about Sang Yan. I saw a comment below saying Ruo Nan is carrying this drama and…
There clearly are some small seal friends among commenters... It's totally in order and understandable. I like both leads here equally, they were well chosen for their natural skills: aloof and covertly warm for BJT, cold, detached, sadness inspiring , almost ghostly for ZRN (although she can be fun, as she proved in My Boss).
This is my favourite C-drama of all time now. Everything about this show is perfect. They did the novel justice…
It's an okay drama, not a masterpiece in my view. I'm still on board because I like Bai Jingting and am curious about how Zhang Ruonan will not be only the poker face walking ghost for too long.
In hidden love didn't sang zhi cut ties with jiaxu during her last two years of highschool after the incident…
Different story... These are two separate novels "in the same universe" but not intended as sequels so there are discrepancies if you set out to compare....
How this drama is connected to Hidden Love? Its says parent storyin details.
that question has been asked and answered repeatedly....
As for family dynamics I totally disagree ; it is probably because Sang Zhi and Duan Jiaxu (not Jaixu or else) are very unimportant in The First Frost, which is much more centered on the complications of Wen Yifan's troubled past and Sang Yan's infatuation since high school, that the SZ and DJX here are so nondescript and almost as unkempt as Mu Chengyun! We almost haven't seen them or the parents, instead, it's the band of present friends in Nanwu and Su Hao'an who lead the support of Sang Yan in the drama version.
TFF is as far removed from family matters as HL was principally about it, and even after the daughter left home to study in another city.
It is noticeable that Sang Yan avoids staying home, visits his parents rarely, especially since he has now finished his studies and is "looking for a job" while having a bar "as a byway", where he can sleep when he is not in his apartment or now at the shared apartment. We can't feel any love between him and his parents, and as for his sister, he used her once when she was a kid, to attract the girl that interested him, but he does not really care about whether she shares a festival meal with him or not!
TFF is totally centered around SY and WYF and the rest are just puppets with so little individuality that it's hard to be clear who they are : Chen Junwen, Su Hao'an, Xiang Lang, only Zhong Siqiao is more recognizable but her role is not very important: looking out for rivals of Su Hao'an grandma, really??
In which episode does Sang Yan learn about his sister dating his friend?
Ep20 14:39 when he spots them embracing, but he had been tipped off by Qian Fei spilling the beans shortly before, reason why he went to check in Yihe.
Most basic beginning timeline without year date and going only off of my memory of the novel I read over a year…
I did not notice Yifan getting introduced at the end of the wedding of Qian Fei : it must be in the book because I did not see that scene in episode 13 despite rewatching again. It was only focused on the shameless wooing by Duan JIAXU (not Jai Xu) until he drove Sang Zhi home in Sang Yan's car that he borrowed the keys of.
It was Qian Fei , over a meal preparing for his wedding some days before, who had told Jiaxu that it was likely that the girl who they were talking about then, without Jiaxu giving a name, despite being years younger, had fallen for him. Jiaxu mulled it over, finally seeing Zhi in a different light than the "small kid" he remembered. She had repeatedly complained that she was not a child any longer and did not want to be addressed as one.
So, after thinking about how Zhi had taken care of him in hospital when he needed an operation, how she had reacted to his joking with the other patient who repeatedly told Jiaxu that he should marry Zhi, and later, her rising to defend Jiaxu against the obsessed Jiang Ying at the restaurant, how she had cried pitifully when she was drunk, telling him that she was in love with someone who did not love her back, it dawned on him that the someone was not a fellow student like the sports one whom she had brushed away when she was drunk, but himself, Jiaxu... It was a revelation, because he had never been in love before, and never let girls get near, focusing only on making money to pay his debts and pay off the dreadful Jiang Ying, daughter of the man whom Jiaxu's drunk driver father had run over and killed.
(Being unable to face consequences, Jiaxu's father had attempted suicide by jumping off a window, but ended up in a coma for years, while Jiaxu's mother got cancer and died. The two hospital expenses and the funeral were too much for Jiaxu even after the apartment he lived in with his mother had been sold; therefore Sang Yan had obtained a loan from his parents to help his pal. Jiaxu was also saddled with money owed to the victim of his father, and Jiang Yi, as the victim's daughter, took advantage of him to drag him down and at the same time, be made to look as her boyfriend in a twisted way: she kept stalking him.)
The realization that Sang Zhi loved him was liberating for Jiaxu who put his foot firmly in, to beat away Jiang Yi. Having gotten rid of his nemesis, he at last could allow himself to accept the love that already was offered, but which he had failed to recognize. So, in both stories, it is the girl who pursues the guy: Sang Zhi cautiously in Hidden Love, until they moved in together "to escape the heat in the non a/c rooms of the dorm in the sweltering summer), and Wen Yifan more or less at the same time, because Sang Yan did not want to be the one who made the first move, after having been rejected years before. But Wen Yifan's relationship was less straightforward than DJX and SZ.
I'm not sure the episode of Sang Zhi urging her brother to wish a happy birthday to Jiaxu, over the phone, is included in TFF. It was in March (episode 17 of HL) since both him and her had birthdays that month. That's when Sang Yan told DJX that SZ was in love with a "postgraduate student", making DJX smirkingly ask Zhi afterwards if it was too late for him to apply; an hour later or so, at the restaurant they had driven to, she was the one to tell him that she was saying "yes" surprising DJX by her boldness when he had not even asked her that evening if she would consider being his girlfriend (he had cautiously asked at her birthday, a few weeks before, but she had been holding off).
Yi fan was too scared when she saw that lady at her mother's place...she must be the wife of her uncle who assaulted…
Those who read the book know about the reasons why Wen Yifan is having so strong ptsd reaction about that aunt, but it will be explained to drama audience later, so what you wrote, yellow daisy, should have been under spoiler tag... The aunt is toxic, yes, and she has no excuse like the wretched Jiang Ying who harassed Duan Jiaxu in the other story (Jiang Ying was another mental case, sure).
Hey guys. I have no idea where to post this. I stumbled upon a movie/drama? of the same name on DailyMotion I…
DailyMotion and YouTube have the nasty habit of posting other dramas masquerading under a popular name. This indeed was not Hidden Love. Qearl found the title, kudos! I have not watched that other one which is one of the less well known c-dramas, dating back to 2020.
TFF's timeline was actually wrong. SZ should be in college during the video phone call. Because she never contracted…
yes, the stories differ in details, so it's stupid to use one to paint the other black. Oh, and in both dramas and novels the name is Sang Zhi. Her story had NOTHING pedo in it, since it was about the unrequited underage crush by a schoolgirl on an older guy who had no clue and did never encourage other than friendly relations as family friend and short time tutor; he was only normally protective of the young "sister" until things changed at the university when she was an adult, and even then it took him time to view her as other than the " sister" he had known briefly in the other city. But babeyogurt is all high and mighty here, probably preferring graphic stories of underage rape in the family ? That's what TFF is about... Of course, it is also about ptsd for that reason, so Sang Yan will not find it easy to coax his love interest. I have read the books, watching now TFF, and while initially regretting none of the cast from HL were retained, I have turned round to watch the other drama as what it is : a different story playing with some similar themes, but TFF is definitely a darker one. It also goes with the lighting choices: where most of HL was out in the open, in bright spaces, even with the wretched Jiang Ying stalker, TFF starts and continues often in dark and night time settings.
Wen Yifan has three names : 温以凡 Wēn Yǐfán, 降 Jiàng short for Shuāngjiàng 霜降 (the solar term day when she was born, which is known as "First Frost" among the 24 solar terms which rhythm the traditional luni-solar Chinese calendar) and 点 Diǎn or 点点 DiǎnDiǎn ("Dot", the name of the stroke which recurred in 以凡 and which was the only one she remembered when she was learning to write in early school).
Her father and close birth family called her 降 Jiàng Her friends from early on call her 点 Diǎn Familiar or endearing ways of addressing a person use a repetition of the syllable such as in 点点 DiǎnDiǎn , or depending on region or family to add "small" (xiǎo 小) or "ah" (阿) before the syllable, which could be the last of the two syllable given name, i.e. like in "xiǎoJiàng" 小降 or "xiǎoFán" 小凡 or "ahJiang" 阿降 etc.
I'll add that this is a "small name" like a common nickname, and that Chinese names have more complexity and variety than the usual First name, Middle name, Surname (or Family name) known in the West.
In HL, Sang Zhi has a small name : ZhiZhi. It is in the category of the 小名, xiǎomíng "little names" also called "milk name" (乳名, rǔmíng) as ZhiZhi is used only for close family. So this was a case of a "milk name" continued as a familial nickname into adulthood. (But milk name are usually forgotten after the formal given name was agreed)
In TFF, WYF 's small name 点 Diǎn is really a nickname (绰号 chuòhào, or 外号 外號, wàihào category) used by close friends but not by family, who use the alternate childhood name Shuāngjiàng 霜降 .bestowed by her dad, but not registered with local authorities.
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I do NOT hate on NanNan, and have no hate either for the small seals, or any actor, actress, and neither for their reasonable fans who support their work without hating on other ones.
As for the adaptation of the book which I read about a year ago, I think both BJT and ZRN were well chosen, but I think the backdrop of the drama is somewhat lackluster as concerns the friends and other support. The first two episodes were fine, the sleepwalking one was underwhelming. I am still on board though, so not thinking it is fit to be dismissed. Just not a 10 for me, yet.
dyslexia has a ball in these comments ;)
As for family dynamics I totally disagree ; it is probably because Sang Zhi and Duan Jiaxu (not Jaixu or else) are very unimportant in The First Frost, which is much more centered on the complications of Wen Yifan's troubled past and Sang Yan's infatuation since high school, that the SZ and DJX here are so nondescript and almost as unkempt as Mu Chengyun! We almost haven't seen them or the parents, instead, it's the band of present friends in Nanwu and Su Hao'an who lead the support of Sang Yan in the drama version.
TFF is as far removed from family matters as HL was principally about it, and even after the daughter left home to study in another city.
It is noticeable that Sang Yan avoids staying home, visits his parents rarely, especially since he has now finished his studies and is "looking for a job" while having a bar "as a byway", where he can sleep when he is not in his apartment or now at the shared apartment. We can't feel any love between him and his parents, and as for his sister, he used her once when she was a kid, to attract the girl that interested him, but he does not really care about whether she shares a festival meal with him or not!
TFF is totally centered around SY and WYF and the rest are just puppets with so little individuality that it's hard to be clear who they are : Chen Junwen, Su Hao'an, Xiang Lang, only Zhong Siqiao is more recognizable but her role is not very important: looking out for rivals of Su Hao'an grandma, really??
It was Qian Fei , over a meal preparing for his wedding some days before, who had told Jiaxu that it was likely that the girl who they were talking about then, without Jiaxu giving a name, despite being years younger, had fallen for him. Jiaxu mulled it over, finally seeing Zhi in a different light than the "small kid" he remembered. She had repeatedly complained that she was not a child any longer and did not want to be addressed as one.
So, after thinking about how Zhi had taken care of him in hospital when he needed an operation, how she had reacted to his joking with the other patient who repeatedly told Jiaxu that he should marry Zhi, and later, her rising to defend Jiaxu against the obsessed Jiang Ying at the restaurant, how she had cried pitifully when she was drunk, telling him that she was in love with someone who did not love her back, it dawned on him that the someone was not a fellow student like the sports one whom she had brushed away when she was drunk, but himself, Jiaxu... It was a revelation, because he had never been in love before, and never let girls get near, focusing only on making money to pay his debts and pay off the dreadful Jiang Ying, daughter of the man whom Jiaxu's drunk driver father had run over and killed.
(Being unable to face consequences, Jiaxu's father had attempted suicide by jumping off a window, but ended up in a coma for years, while Jiaxu's mother got cancer and died. The two hospital expenses and the funeral were too much for Jiaxu even after the apartment he lived in with his mother had been sold; therefore Sang Yan had obtained a loan from his parents to help his pal. Jiaxu was also saddled with money owed to the victim of his father, and Jiang Yi, as the victim's daughter, took advantage of him to drag him down and at the same time, be made to look as her boyfriend in a twisted way: she kept stalking him.)
The realization that Sang Zhi loved him was liberating for Jiaxu who put his foot firmly in, to beat away Jiang Yi. Having gotten rid of his nemesis, he at last could allow himself to accept the love that already was offered, but which he had failed to recognize. So, in both stories, it is the girl who pursues the guy: Sang Zhi cautiously in Hidden Love, until they moved in together "to escape the heat in the non a/c rooms of the dorm in the sweltering summer), and Wen Yifan more or less at the same time, because Sang Yan did not want to be the one who made the first move, after having been rejected years before. But Wen Yifan's relationship was less straightforward than DJX and SZ.
I'm not sure the episode of Sang Zhi urging her brother to wish a happy birthday to Jiaxu, over the phone, is included in TFF. It was in March (episode 17 of HL) since both him and her had birthdays that month. That's when Sang Yan told DJX that SZ was in love with a "postgraduate student", making DJX smirkingly ask Zhi afterwards if it was too late for him to apply; an hour later or so, at the restaurant they had driven to, she was the one to tell him that she was saying "yes" surprising DJX by her boldness when he had not even asked her that evening if she would consider being his girlfriend (he had cautiously asked at her birthday, a few weeks before, but she had been holding off).
At the time of airing of HL, I wrote a long Discussions piece, which included a "Characters analysis, names, ages, in Hidden Love drama and book ; assessment of characters played by main cast, and goodbyes from them" here is the link : https://mydramalist.com/discussions/hidden-love/109103-shooting-locations-and-dates-misc-other-links?pid=2646315&page=1#p2646315
The page of threads compiled by annie, listed at the end of my companion piece in section 10, may also yield interesting info for you.
I have not watched that other one which is one of the less well known c-dramas, dating back to 2020.
But babeyogurt is all high and mighty here, probably preferring graphic stories of underage rape in the family ? That's what TFF is about...
Of course, it is also about ptsd for that reason, so Sang Yan will not find it easy to coax his love interest. I have read the books, watching now TFF, and while initially regretting none of the cast from HL were retained, I have turned round to watch the other drama as what it is : a different story playing with some similar themes, but TFF is definitely a darker one. It also goes with the lighting choices: where most of HL was out in the open, in bright spaces, even with the wretched Jiang Ying stalker, TFF starts and continues often in dark and night time settings.
温以凡 Wēn Yǐfán,
降 Jiàng short for Shuāngjiàng 霜降 (the solar term day when she was born, which is known as "First Frost" among the 24 solar terms which rhythm the traditional luni-solar Chinese calendar) and
点 Diǎn or 点点 DiǎnDiǎn ("Dot", the name of the stroke which recurred in 以凡 and which was the only one she remembered when she was learning to write in early school).
Her father and close birth family called her 降 Jiàng
Her friends from early on call her 点 Diǎn
Familiar or endearing ways of addressing a person use a repetition of the syllable such as in 点点 DiǎnDiǎn , or depending on region or family to add "small" (xiǎo 小) or "ah" (阿) before the syllable, which could be the last of the two syllable given name, i.e. like in "xiǎoJiàng" 小降 or "xiǎoFán" 小凡 or "ahJiang" 阿降 etc.
I'll add that this is a "small name" like a common nickname, and that Chinese names have more complexity and variety than the usual First name, Middle name, Surname (or Family name) known in the West.
In HL, Sang Zhi has a small name : ZhiZhi. It is in the category of the 小名, xiǎomíng "little names" also called "milk name" (乳名, rǔmíng) as ZhiZhi is used only for close family. So this was a case of a "milk name" continued as a familial nickname into adulthood. (But milk name are usually forgotten after the formal given name was agreed)
In TFF, WYF 's small name 点 Diǎn is really a nickname (绰号 chuòhào, or 外号 外號, wàihào category) used by close friends but not by family, who use the alternate childhood name Shuāngjiàng 霜降 .bestowed by her dad, but not registered with local authorities.