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I think that would've destroyed the entire plot itself. Episode 1 and done 🤣

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt you'll see anymore of her after the upcoming drama in 2027 and that's assuming they even decide to release it. Also, I think she's great too but we'll just have to convince ourselves that she simply wanted to retire after her upcoming role instead of having her career ended due to the current situation.

We're all beneficiaries of our ancestors' actions, whether good or bad. If we went back far enough, there is probably some good and some evil in both of our family histories. We're not personally liable simply because some benefit may have trickled down to us through the generations.

Also, I don't know why you're taking what I said in all the wrong ways. I never said Koreans were terrible people or anything remotely close to that. If I say Palestinians are some of the kindest people I've encountered, that doesn't mean I'm saying Koreans aren't kind unless I specifically said kindness was exclusive to Palestinians. I was responding to your analogy because different cultures place different weight on certain things, I just didn't find your hypothetical very plausible.

We know Koreans can be very critical of their public figures regardless of their position, and this particular part of Korean history clearly carries much more weight because of the generational trauma involved. Honestly, though, it sounds like you agree that the level of backlash is unfair to Ha Young. Korean celebrities have done objectively heinous things and received far less public outrage, including actual crimes. This is clearly an issue that Koreans place a much higher level of importance to because of Korea's history. And I read your other comment as well. Although you're definitely right about there being double standards based on gender in the Korean entertainment industry, this time it isn't about her being a woman. If a male celebrity did the same thing, he'd get demolished as well. I've said before that the standard here is extremely high. The pent-up anger toward the pro-Japanese collaborators of that era is basically bleeding out onto Ha Young. The person who actually deserved to answer for those actions lived out a prosperous life and is no longer around, so directing that anger at Ha Young might be their way of coping with that unfortunate reality. Koreans are angry, and that's their prerogative. Before I just felt bad for her but now I'm actually worried because the severity of the reaction at this point is malicious. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she ends her life, other celebrities with more fame and wealth have for much less.

Anyways, we've gone around this enough. I think we probably understand each other's opinions at this point. So let's leave it here. Take care.

I understand why you assumed I was a girl, but I'm a guy, so I don't really have any desire to be gorgeous 🤣
Anyways, my original comment was simply about Ha Young as an actress. I enjoyed watching her act and I think she's beautiful. So it's a shame that her career is essentially over.

Also, your analogy doesn't really work because you're changing some pretty important parts of the situation. You're talking about a Palestinian actress with "military" doctors in her family, but if she genuinely had no idea that a great-grandparent had sided with Israel, I wouldn't hold that against her. It wouldn't even cross my mind. She didn't do it, she didn't know about it, and she's several generations removed from the person who did.

And if she actually knew about it, why would she voluntarily go on television and answer questions about the military doctors in her family?

Your Palestine analogy also falls apart for another reason. If the hypothetical actress were Palestinian herself, I seriously doubt Palestinians would turn against her over something an ancestor did, especially if she had nothing to do with it. Palestinians are probably the warmest and most welcoming people I've seen, so thinking she would even face backlash is quite a tall order.

And I'm definitely not telling Koreans how they're supposed to feel about their history. My original comment was simply about an actress whose work I enjoy and who I find very attractive. That's it.

Man, I really liked watching her act, was hopeful Our Sticky Love was gonna be the start of her leading lady era. Straight up gorgeous as well, but it's over before she even got to finish promotions for Our Sticky Love 😔

Unfortunately, it looks like that's already the reality of the situation.

I understand what you're saying, and I don't think Koreans are villains for being upset. My point is that from everything I've seen, Ha Young's comments only make sense if she genuinely didn't know the darker side of her great-grandfather's history. If she knew, it wouldn't make any sense for her to speak about him positively in the first place. The fact that she was asked about this in several interviews also makes it more likely that she genuinely didn't know. I'm sure her agency had some control over what topics would be discussed, so if this history was really so obvious and well known, you'd think these questions would've been avoided or checked beforehand. If the interviewers already knew how sensitive this was, then asking these questions seems like a pretty easy way to cause a controversy.

And you're right about the Anyang post being provided by a citizen, but from my understanding, Ahn Sang-ho was presented as an independence activist through his work as a doctor, which is why I brought it up. The post was published through Anyang City's official Naver blog and stayed up for years before being made private after this controversy. Either way, I'm not trying to paint Koreans as villains or tell them how they're supposed to react. I'm simply asking whether Ha Young should be held responsible for something she apparently didn't know.

I understand that people can choose to stop supporting her and that's their prerogative. I'm just saying that I think a lot of the anger being aimed at her comes from the anger people have toward her great-grandfather, and that anger has nowhere to go because he's already lived his life and is no longer here. Now that pent-up rage is leaking out and being directed at someone several generations removed from him. I've seen some of the recent Korean coverage and comments, and some of it has gone straight to inciting violence against her.

And as for the “foreigner” point, I'm not saying I understand this history better than a Korean such as yourself. I'm just giving my view on whether I think Ha Young should be blamed for something she apparently didn't know. At this point, I'm not going to keep responding because what I say isn't going to change anything. I'm a foreigner and apparently I'm not supposed to have an opinion on something that isn't happening in my own backyard. Ultimately, I think the damage is already done for Ha Young.

If you reply, I'll read it out of courtesy, but I'll leave it at this. Have a good one.

Oh I just saw the trailer with him looking at the screen and it said around 1.977 billion won, don't know if that was after tax or not.

1/8 Japanese since her great-grandmother was Japanese.

I think the biggest problem with this issue is that it keeps making it sound like Ha Young went out of her way to praise her great-grandfather, but I have yet to see that from any of the interviews I've watched. She was asked about her family lineage of doctors and answered the question. In the interview that caused this whole controversy, one of the hosts just straight up said her great-grandfather had treated Emperor Gojong, and she literally responded that she didn't know about that. That tells you pretty clearly that she was repeating what she'd heard from her family, not that she had some detailed knowledge of his life.

In 2020, Anyang City's official Naver blog published a post specifically highlighting An Sang-ho as an independence activist as part of its “Searching for Independence Activists from Anyang” series. The city publicly praised him for carrying out independence activities through his work as a pioneering doctor, and according to the information that has since come out, city officials themselves were unaware of his colonial-era collaboration when the post was published. The post remained publicly available for over six years, only being made private after this recent controversy brought his colonial ties to light. If this information was supposedly so obvious and readily available, it's pretty confusing that an actual municipal government could publicly celebrate him for over six years without apparently knowing about it.

So an actual city government was researching its own local historical figures and publicly celebrating this man, yet Ha Young was supposed to actively search through digitized archives to discover something that even they hadn't uncovered? Please, help me make sense of this. Something being searchable online doesn't mean people are automatically expected to know it. You still have to know what you're looking for and actually have a reason to look for it in the first place.

And personally, I don't even know the names of my great-grandparents. If my family told me that one of them was a doctor and gave me some stories about their accomplishments, I'd take them at face value. I'm not going to start investigating colonial archives to see whether there's something my family never told me, and it's wildly unreasonable to expect that of anyone.

You can absolutely acknowledge the pain caused by Japanese colonial rule without pretending that ignorance of an obscure ancestor's history makes Ha Young morally responsible for it. There's a clear difference between “her great-grandfather did terrible things” and “Ha Young should have somehow known about those things.” The first can be true without the second being remotely reasonable. I'm sorry but this whole thing blowing up the way it did, just doesn't make any sense to me.

Damn, that's rough buddy. Are you from Morocco?

You know what makes this even more ridiculous? She was literally asked about having a family history of doctors. I initially thought she went out of her way to start talking about how impressive her family of doctors were, but then I actually watched the interviews. Apparently, we're now expected to have a detailed understanding of the lives and political histories of our ancestors going back five or six generations, just in case someone happens to dig through an archive and finds something controversial.

Oh okay, thank you! I'm from Canada, and we don't tax windfalls like lottery winnings, so that completely slipped my mind 😭

Didn't the lottery payout show close to 2 billion won in the trailer? That's over $1.3 million USD.

I'm saying that what she actually said makes it pretty clear that she didn't know. Why would someone knowingly boast about the medical achievements of a person they knew had collaborated with the very regime responsible for one of the darkest periods in their nation's history? She's Korean, so she would obviously understand the significance and trauma associated with the Japanese occupation. It makes far more sense that she genuinely had no idea about that part of her great-grandfather's history. And she's answering a question she was asked. Was she supposed to just give a yes or no and refuse to elaborate? I don't think that's how interviews work when the cast do promotions.

You also said history regarding her family is well documented and readily available, so if that's the case, how do you explain the city of Anyang having a municipal blog post that literally named her great-grandfather and celebrated him as a historic local figure? That post was publicly available without controversy until this situation blew up, at which point it was deleted and archived. If the information was supposedly so obvious and readily accessible, why was an actual local government publicly celebrating the man by name? You don't have to answer these questions, I'm just highlighting how absurd the standard is here. I don't think she'll get any more main roles going forward, maybe she'll have to retire from the fallout of this situation altogether.

Lol, no, I'm aware. I've watched the interviews myself, and what actually happened was that Ha Young walked into the room, unprompted, sat the hosts and her co-star Jung Hae In down, and decided to give them a passionate presentation on how magnificent her great-grandfather was, how much wealth her family accumulated because of his actions, and how wonderful life was thanks to her pro-Japanese ancestry. Trust me, I've watched the footage multiple times now, and this is the most accurate retelling of what happened.

It’s just odd to me. I personally don’t know any details about my great-grandparents, let alone their names. I wasn’t aware that we were expected to have an extensive knowledge of our family history, including detailed biographies of relatives going back at least 10 generations.

So I'm assuming based on the level of backlash that they're going to replace her on The Long Shot Trial? 😔

Because she answered a question that the hosts asked based on the information she knew? The fact that she answered the question in the way she did actually makes it clear that she didn't know the crimes of her great-grandfather. It's incredibly unreasonable to think people would know the history of their GREAT-grandparents, I don't even know the names of my great-grandparents. Why would anyone answer a question about a family member who committed treason in a positive manner? It doesn't make any sense, I've seen the interviews, everytime it was brought up by the hosts and she was asked about her multigenerational family of doctors, if she was aware one of them was a traitor to the nation, there is absolutely no way she would even mention that person.

"you're the chief of STUPIF TOWN," ironic. You're evidently too stupid to insult 🤡