I earnestly hope that every single person who insulted PO on the last couple of weeks would have enough guts to say they judged too fast after they watch next EPs preview.
BUT, I know for a fact they won't and they will still continue their witch hunt XD
It's funny, that was my exact comment when I read your review, which had led to my review.
Only difference is, I decided not to comment under yours cause I know when the ship is too far from shore to be called back.
But feel free to stay ofc. Since I have already watched the new EP, I hope PO's reaction on the next ep preview would pull some soething to you... highly doubtful, but well...
He is an amazing pianist who was psychologically abused by his family from the day he was born and that abuse…
I don’t get frustrated over comments about fictional characters. You’re mirroring your own thing onto me.. Unfortunately, I can't keep up with the same level of deepness you have devoted to JY.
Which is the core difference between us, one needs to bring PO into everything and never misses a chance to try portrait him as the bad guy, for future satisfaction, or in baby words, make the probable upcoming blow on the show easier
while me will simply hold each accountable to their own.
Which in your case, is overestimating the usage of large words, which I happily needed to remark given that you decided to use the technique on me. So, yeah ^^
And thanks, it comes in very handy you have no idea how many Pseudointellectuals I happen to encounter, especially online...
He is an amazing pianist who was psychologically abused by his family from the day he was born and that abuse…
Imposter syndrome and self-loathing:
While I am not a fan of big words such as those, I would agree to an extend, he does show these signs, which is more about mental self-harm.
Doesn't mean he's a bad friend or that he depended on JY's sheets. And the fact that he depended on those sheets and it attributed to his 9 years career isn't something I will ever nod to.
Helped with the competition? Yes... Helped with his career? No... Nothing made such suggestion, not even basic logic, that's your OWN favored scenario. WHICH btw, logically speaking is wrong for all the things I have stated.
That being said, I think it was JY who DID help by showing enough encouragement to PO... Which shockingly ENOUGH, is the same PO offered to JY with his past Trauma on stage (Like the EXACT same thing).
Yes, PO had a moment of anger, reminds me of that football field moment when he also hit PO in the face. (OBV. one is more aggressive, but I can't help but find it weird that your hawk eyes only catch the one-sided scenario).
About the last part...
I will wait to see what JY would do after facing injustice himself, cause as far as I can see, you're all foreseeing JY's evil arc and your defense-mechanism is acting up to build a case so that when things get messy later you would already have a reference to back you up, AKA collective Hostile attribution bias.
Side Note: I had the highest IQ recorded in my college for 5 years. So, make sure to take some time to think about your rebound, throwing large words and deep psychology tricks won't make me nod
well, in the story is implied that by using Jeong Yo’s music book Pi-O had a breakthrough. So yeah, Jeong Yo…
1. He owes him a thank you is not something I would negate, but I won't change my mind that they BOTH helped one another
2.The drama never implied that, that's your own judgment of things, which is based on nothing but wishful thinking. They gave so many hints, even HJN said it clearly "Whether he helped you or not, you have performed "BOTH" acts perfectly".
I am sorry, but I can tell when ppl are willingly dismissing their logic for the sake of being biased of something, which is in this case being a fan of LJY and the 2nd ML syndrome on most occasions.
Shocking as it sounds, ask anyone who isn't a fan of both "Just like myself. My first drama for SK and 2nd for LJY" and they should easily tell you, your emotions are in the way
Came across some comments, and I decided to make some things clear, because some of you are really clueless about how music works.
1. PO might have not credited JY for his help, BUT saying he built his career because of the musical sheet interpretation is de*d wild. NONE can be the best for 9 years because of the help of a musical sheet.
PO did find his own voice eventually, which was demonstrated in
-His instructor saying "You already found your own voice, there's nothing more I can help with"
-The reaction of the audience after his "free-style" the second act he played when everyone got emotional, even his grandpa was shocked. That wasn't sth JY had done, he only helped with the assigned piece. That was all PO
-The interviewer mentioning that PO had multiple achievements for 9 years, then proceeded to say it started with that particular competition.
I am sorry, do you think PO achieved all of that for 9 years just with the help of one musical sheet??? That's too much pressure and credit for 6 pages with random notes.
Like, if it was just these notes, then PO won't even be able to play Swan Lake even if his life depended on it, due to the difference between Rachmaninoff and Tchaikovsky's styles.
That's a sad joke!!!
2.PO is a terrible friend because he was always jealous.
Human emotions is a natural thing, acting on them is where we draw the line, that's the oldest rule on the book.
-Do I admit that PO has his flaws? yes -Do I think he's emotionally struggling? yes
-Was he a bad friend to JY? NO -Is he mentally disturbed ? ALSO, NO!
PO is the most humane ML in Kdramas I have seen, he is a person with flaws, but he had NEVER hurt his friend. In fact he respected him enough to
-Help him overcome his fear (not once, or twice, thrice...) -Stood up to his mother for the first time for him -Saved him from being expelled from school -Saved him from those debt-collectors -Said out-loud that he wants to have a decent competition with him (and yes, that's a very decent thing). -Spent money and years searching for him while everyone else was simply waiting around.
PO is NOT a bad friend, you're just emotionally immature if you think so.
bruh jeongyo didn’t have amnesia, how could he forget whether what he heard from pio is his interpretation or…
Wait....
You think PO's career flourished because he depended on that "single" sheet that was handed to him 9 years ago?
One well-worked interpretation can make you better at other sheets. BUT, it will not make you good at all of them by itself. I am honestly shocked at how loud your voice is, when you have no comprehension of the basics
bruh jeongyo didn’t have amnesia, how could he forget whether what he heard from pio is his interpretation or…
EXACTLY... he was a manual-sticker so much.
Yet, on ep 6 his instructor told him "You have already found your own voice" Hence he no longer depended on the interpretation, but rather his own.
That on one side.
PO struggles with the designated piece, NOT the free-style, and he nailed them "BOTH"
PO was in fact struggling to mentally function properly, BUT by JY's own words "You can't tell me you haven't memorized the notes", and PO replied "I haven't interpreted it". Which meant he didn't understand the sheets.
So, if he has in fact kept his mentality in-check and managed to give himself time, he would have done the rest alone!
That on the side.... Listen Hun the entire "It's Khamas" excuse doesn't dwell well with me. Me explaining how sheets and music works isn't personal attack, unless you considered your English class WW3. I am simply explaining the difference that you seem to be oblivious about.
bruh jeongyo didn’t have amnesia, how could he forget whether what he heard from pio is his interpretation or…
.............. It's a music piece (!??!) you have never played piano with a musical sheet before have you?
Comprehending a musical piece from a sheet doesn't mean the way you play it.
Your touch is "Yours", that was PI-o's issue..... he used to stick too much to the script.
The notes they were given didn't explain the pauses and the overall rhythm, as in when you start playing, when you make it faster and when to wait for other tools. (That's what JY helped PO with, if he in fact did)
Adding your style is changing keys, or shorten/extend keys (Rubeto), Pausing more or less for the fitting flow.
Pi-O never used JY's notes and decided to get over his fear himself and that's how he managed to find his voice... but JY didn't know. And that's why Pi-o never rightfully credited him for it.
Side Note:
Ppl accusing PI-o of being selfish, did we watch the same show? Pi-o helped JY as much JY did... Truth is if PO didn't help JY overcome his stage fright then JY would still be struggling... like did we watch the same show?
It was a both-sided friendship with one having more internal struggles than the other, but he never once used this excuse to prey on JY.... he helped him become a worthy opponent and respected him enough to challenge him fair and square
1. I still don't think Bi-o's mom did it.... The way she was interacting with JY after she met him after 9 years (!!?!) I don't know, She didn't seem caught in a trance in a way, if she's done anything wrong I would assume her reaction should have been different in a way.
2. JY seeking revenge was already sth we had assumed, but I am still wondering why did he choose to hide all these years, if it was in fact that interview that had pulled him out of his hiding place, then he sure as hell cared SM about PI-O until he watched that clip, so why did he hide after all? And if it was Pi-o's family, how could have he very easily returned?
3.I personally won't judge JY's decision to take revenge over Pi-o until I learn what had really happened 9 years ago, or what he had came to learn these past years.... but "IF" it's just Pi-o's interview, then I would be a little disappointed in him because he should have talked to him, or at least not plan so much ahead with no proper comprehension.
4.Not sure why Pi-o said that he wasn't close to JY in that interview, but I will say sth from a personal experience.... when my childhood friend passed away 5 years ago (we were friends for 14 years) I was the person who talked about her the least, and showed the bare amount of public affection, while others mentioned her often...
This had nothing to do with me loving her less, but I hated that her legacy as an amazing person would only be limited to her being my friend, I would simply share her old posts because I wanted ppl to remember her, not remember her as my friend.
I think in Pi-o's case he didn't want to say or even talk about JY until he learns what had happened, he didn't think he was qualified to express anything about JY, more importantly he wanted to honor him enough by not using JY's disappearance to gain sympathy from his crowd
5. All adults in this drama need proper adulting lessons
if the path will continue to show Baek Gi Tae taking a blow after blow with no proper fight back, then this is a waste of time.... FR, whomever thought that watching the ML getting tossed around like this by his enemies for 6 EPs is just .....
Don't get me wrong, I believe Baek Gi Tae should get his deserved ending, but you can't have an entire season showing off how smart the ML is and then take it all on the 2nd season.
The way I cringed when they arrested them for the money, dude knew he had a target on his back and spoke about it openly, that's why they brought the money in the first place. So, why not have a better plan to receive the money without getting arrested?
Baek Gi Tae needed to fall eventually, but due to his enemies out-smarting him after one hell of a battle where Baek Gi Tae loses some and wins some. Not because every action he made was just stupid
ATP the only thing saving this show for me is a plot twist where Baek Gi Tae manages to make it out somehow by having a proper plan to save himself all along..
love this theory but I don't think that'll be the case
I truly believe he never lost his memory, but he had to stay hidden and in a way he was trying to help Pi-o.... I don't believe he wants to hurt him at all
What if jeong yo turn out to be master mind like he intentionally become close to pio because he thinks his mother…
can I be very honest? The idea of anyone being related to JY's mother's de*th is a NO NO for me, they only met him on that event, very short-notice and JY had already performed and won... if Pi-o's mom was on it, won't she hurt JY himself?
Just had the wildest theory EVER..... But, don't you find it weird that JY only appeared when Pi-o was in a bad place and his artistic image was in danger?
And yet, when Pi-o was in good place JY was nowhere to be found despite searching?
Do you think it was intentional for some reason???
Mind pointing the things I said that you didn't mention
BUT, I know for a fact they won't and they will still continue their witch hunt XD
Only difference is, I decided not to comment under yours cause I know when the ship is too far from shore to be called back.
But feel free to stay ofc. Since I have already watched the new EP, I hope PO's reaction on the next ep preview would pull some soething to you... highly doubtful, but well...
Which is the core difference between us, one needs to bring PO into everything and never misses a chance to try portrait him as the bad guy, for future satisfaction, or in baby words, make the probable upcoming blow on the show easier
while me will simply hold each accountable to their own.
Which in your case, is overestimating the usage of large words, which I happily needed to remark given that you decided to use the technique on me. So, yeah ^^
And thanks, it comes in very handy you have no idea how many Pseudointellectuals I happen to encounter, especially online...
While I am not a fan of big words such as those, I would agree to an extend, he does show these signs, which is more about mental self-harm.
Doesn't mean he's a bad friend or that he depended on JY's sheets. And the fact that he depended on those sheets and it attributed to his 9 years career isn't something I will ever nod to.
Helped with the competition? Yes...
Helped with his career? No... Nothing made such suggestion, not even basic logic, that's your OWN favored scenario. WHICH btw, logically speaking is wrong for all the things I have stated.
That being said, I think it was JY who DID help by showing enough encouragement to PO... Which shockingly ENOUGH, is the same PO offered to JY with his past Trauma on stage (Like the EXACT same thing).
Yes, PO had a moment of anger, reminds me of that football field moment when he also hit PO in the face. (OBV. one is more aggressive, but I can't help but find it weird that your hawk eyes only catch the one-sided scenario).
About the last part...
I will wait to see what JY would do after facing injustice himself, cause as far as I can see, you're all foreseeing JY's evil arc and your defense-mechanism is acting up to build a case so that when things get messy later you would already have a reference to back you up, AKA collective Hostile attribution bias.
Side Note: I had the highest IQ recorded in my college for 5 years. So, make sure to take some time to think about your rebound, throwing large words and deep psychology tricks won't make me nod
2.The drama never implied that, that's your own judgment of things, which is based on nothing but wishful thinking. They gave so many hints, even HJN said it clearly "Whether he helped you or not, you have performed "BOTH" acts perfectly".
I am sorry, but I can tell when ppl are willingly dismissing their logic for the sake of being biased of something, which is in this case being a fan of LJY and the 2nd ML syndrome on most occasions.
Shocking as it sounds, ask anyone who isn't a fan of both "Just like myself. My first drama for SK and 2nd for LJY" and they should easily tell you, your emotions are in the way
1. PO might have not credited JY for his help, BUT saying he built his career because of the musical sheet interpretation is de*d wild. NONE can be the best for 9 years because of the help of a musical sheet.
PO did find his own voice eventually, which was demonstrated in
-His instructor saying "You already found your own voice, there's nothing more I can help with"
-The reaction of the audience after his "free-style" the second act he played when everyone got emotional, even his grandpa was shocked. That wasn't sth JY had done, he only helped with the assigned piece. That was all PO
-The interviewer mentioning that PO had multiple achievements for 9 years, then proceeded to say it started with that particular competition.
I am sorry, do you think PO achieved all of that for 9 years just with the help of one musical sheet??? That's too much pressure and credit for 6 pages with random notes.
Like, if it was just these notes, then PO won't even be able to play Swan Lake even if his life depended on it, due to the difference between Rachmaninoff and Tchaikovsky's styles.
That's a sad joke!!!
2.PO is a terrible friend because he was always jealous.
Human emotions is a natural thing, acting on them is where we draw the line, that's the oldest rule on the book.
-Do I admit that PO has his flaws? yes
-Do I think he's emotionally struggling? yes
-Was he a bad friend to JY? NO
-Is he mentally disturbed ? ALSO, NO!
PO is the most humane ML in Kdramas I have seen, he is a person with flaws, but he had NEVER hurt his friend. In fact he respected him enough to
-Help him overcome his fear (not once, or twice, thrice...)
-Stood up to his mother for the first time for him
-Saved him from being expelled from school
-Saved him from those debt-collectors
-Said out-loud that he wants to have a decent competition with him (and yes, that's a very decent thing).
-Spent money and years searching for him while everyone else was simply waiting around.
PO is NOT a bad friend, you're just emotionally immature if you think so.
You think PO's career flourished because he depended on that "single" sheet that was handed to him 9 years ago?
One well-worked interpretation can make you better at other sheets. BUT, it will not make you good at all of them by itself. I am honestly shocked at how loud your voice is, when you have no comprehension of the basics
Yet, on ep 6 his instructor told him "You have already found your own voice" Hence he no longer depended on the interpretation, but rather his own.
That on one side.
PO struggles with the designated piece, NOT the free-style, and he nailed them "BOTH"
PO was in fact struggling to mentally function properly, BUT by JY's own words "You can't tell me you haven't memorized the notes", and PO replied "I haven't interpreted it". Which meant he didn't understand the sheets.
So, if he has in fact kept his mentality in-check and managed to give himself time, he would have done the rest alone!
That on the side.... Listen Hun the entire "It's Khamas" excuse doesn't dwell well with me. Me explaining how sheets and music works isn't personal attack, unless you considered your English class WW3. I am simply explaining the difference that you seem to be oblivious about.
It's a music piece (!??!)
you have never played piano with a musical sheet before have you?
Comprehending a musical piece from a sheet doesn't mean the way you play it.
Your touch is "Yours", that was PI-o's issue..... he used to stick too much to the script.
The notes they were given didn't explain the pauses and the overall rhythm, as in when you start playing, when you make it faster and when to wait for other tools. (That's what JY helped PO with, if he in fact did)
Adding your style is changing keys, or shorten/extend keys (Rubeto), Pausing more or less for the fitting flow.
Do you understand the difference?
Pi-O never used JY's notes and decided to get over his fear himself and that's how he managed to find his voice... but JY didn't know. And that's why Pi-o never rightfully credited him for it.
Side Note:
Ppl accusing PI-o of being selfish, did we watch the same show? Pi-o helped JY as much JY did... Truth is if PO didn't help JY overcome his stage fright then JY would still be struggling... like did we watch the same show?
It was a both-sided friendship with one having more internal struggles than the other, but he never once used this excuse to prey on JY.... he helped him become a worthy opponent and respected him enough to challenge him fair and square
1. I still don't think Bi-o's mom did it.... The way she was interacting with JY after she met him after 9 years (!!?!) I don't know, She didn't seem caught in a trance in a way, if she's done anything wrong I would assume her reaction should have been different in a way.
2. JY seeking revenge was already sth we had assumed, but I am still wondering why did he choose to hide all these years, if it was in fact that interview that had pulled him out of his hiding place, then he sure as hell cared SM about PI-O until he watched that clip, so why did he hide after all? And if it was Pi-o's family, how could have he very easily returned?
3.I personally won't judge JY's decision to take revenge over Pi-o until I learn what had really happened 9 years ago, or what he had came to learn these past years.... but "IF" it's just Pi-o's interview, then I would be a little disappointed in him because he should have talked to him, or at least not plan so much ahead with no proper comprehension.
4.Not sure why Pi-o said that he wasn't close to JY in that interview, but I will say sth from a personal experience.... when my childhood friend passed away 5 years ago (we were friends for 14 years) I was the person who talked about her the least, and showed the bare amount of public affection, while others mentioned her often...
This had nothing to do with me loving her less, but I hated that her legacy as an amazing person would only be limited to her being my friend, I would simply share her old posts because I wanted ppl to remember her, not remember her as my friend.
I think in Pi-o's case he didn't want to say or even talk about JY until he learns what had happened, he didn't think he was qualified to express anything about JY, more importantly he wanted to honor him enough by not using JY's disappearance to gain sympathy from his crowd
5. All adults in this drama need proper adulting lessons
Don't get me wrong, I believe Baek Gi Tae should get his deserved ending, but you can't have an entire season showing off how smart the ML is and then take it all on the 2nd season.
The way I cringed when they arrested them for the money, dude knew he had a target on his back and spoke about it openly, that's why they brought the money in the first place. So, why not have a better plan to receive the money without getting arrested?
Baek Gi Tae needed to fall eventually, but due to his enemies out-smarting him after one hell of a battle where Baek Gi Tae loses some and wins some. Not because every action he made was just stupid
ATP the only thing saving this show for me is a plot twist where Baek Gi Tae manages to make it out somehow by having a proper plan to save himself all along..
But, don't you find it weird that JY only appeared when Pi-o was in a bad place and his artistic image was in danger?
And yet, when Pi-o was in good place JY was nowhere to be found despite searching?
Do you think it was intentional for some reason???
No one can change my mind