I love when dramas have extremely unreliable narrators. It adds mystery without taking away from the other genres of the story. The FL is clearly very smart and capable, but she's also delusional. She has a mission of revenge and is very scheming but at some point, her declining mental health is bound to get in the way.
I think it helps that her husband has his own revenge journey and it is intertwined with her own. Do you guys think he has realized how scheming she is yet? I know he's figured out she's very complex and clearly is doing more than taking care of the household....but do you think he's realized shes the mastermind he was trying to find?
I think they had some kind of a past at the academy where there was some mutual affection between them. I don't…
I feel like he wasn't directly responsible for what happened to them, but he had an opprotunity to save them or speak up for them, and he didnt. And then he did the same to her with the engagement
okay, who is freaking her dad out?Is it guilt? A ghost? A hidden enemy? A secret character???
He thinks he is seeing the ghost of his other wife, Ye Li's mother. It was actually Ye Li who snuck out at night. I wonder if she went back to her father's house to purposely torment him about her mother's death or if she just went back and was singing songs her mother knew bc she missed her mom.
I think they are not going to put the transmigration thing here. She is trained, she might have received training…
Yea...she even has memories of the time before her misfortune, spending time with the current empress dowager and her mother. So if there is a transmigration plot, it happened very long ago. I think maybe bc transmigration and time leaping plots can be sort of taboo, they only make subtle references like the hand-rolling.
Bots and trolls are definitely weighing down the rating. For the firs episode at least, this has kdrama classic potential. Its definitely a certain type of old kdrama vibe thats very unserious but gets you invested into the MC. The production seems good and there are a lot of really good actors in this. Park Ji Hoon just got recognized for his acting in that historical movie so I fear we wont get to see him in many more dramas like this for a few years, these dramas are usually for up and coming actors, but he's now proven to be one of the best. He's gonna satart getting scripts that are meant for top actors. The downside is that we wont see him in "hidden gem" dramas like this for a while.
There is a small degree between a „savage“ joke and just being rude
Sarcasm is usually taken as rude when ppl straight up dont realize its sarcasm. I think many people just arent used to that type of dry humor and misinterpreted her joke. They realized it was a joke but they didnt get the punchline.
There is a small degree between a „savage“ joke and just being rude
There is a difference. And its obvious some people (including you) dont know that difference. You guys wrongly assumed that she is attempting to tease others, and that she is not being self aware. But when you realize she is very aware that she of all people should not be the one saying this, that very absurdity and irony is the joke. SHE is the joke, not them. It is not a "savage joke" where someone else is being teased or dissed for their misfortune.
She was groomed to be a queen and queen dowager. Yet her husband and her son who are the ones she needs to keep…
We're definitely much further along in the show now so I think it might just be due to power hungriness... but I still wouldnt be surprised if were given a flashback and we see that at some point she had some interest in the grand prince.
Listen... this drama was meant to be made for 2021 or before. Firstly, because I believe you do NEED to watch the prequel to actually enjoy this show. I only watched Princess Agents when it originally aired so I don't remember the plot and wasn't able to really understand the characters much. Second, this is a story with lots of tropes and plot holes that would have been acceptable years ago, but now...not so much.
I really want to connect with other kdrama lovers but I swear this group is some of the most depraved, insincere, ignorant weirdos. Yall are neck and neck with the anime fans. As a fan of both, let me go do some self introspection. Bc at this point liking dramas or anime might be a sign of terrible person disease lol.
Anyways...may this couple not recieve ANY of the strange energy in these comments and the best to their baby. Sending good luck and good health to PSH, congrats girl.
I don't like her as an actress, but congratuationsIs he still acting? Ive never heard him doing dramas.And isnt…
Why do yall do this? -__-
No hes not so go back and edit your comment to delete that on this post about a nice family man welcoming a baby. This is how rumors start. And I KNOW you know better.
Can someone please explain the set up to me, because it is not making any sense. Okay, so FL is illegitimate,…
1) The FL wants to be more than rich. She's competitive. She wants to be the successor to her family's company. Her dad, the owner of the company wants her imcompetent brother to be the successor. Why? Her brother married into nobility. The brother is now officially an elite among elites and his network is top-tier. If you ever have been job hunting, you'll know that youre network matters more than your talent. The FL's father knows at the end of the day, the brother can just hire someone to run the business for him, but his ties to the Noble class are a permanent gurantee for endless business opprotunities. The FL on the other hand is not only a commoner... she is illegitimate. She has a bad reputation among the wealthy and the nobles. She's a BOSS, not stay at home wife material. Her chances of finding a noble husband willing to marry an illigitimate commoner with a bad reputation who does what she wants is almost ZERO. So she has two options, find this unicorn of a noble husband before her father arranges a marriage for her OR a fake marriage with a noble/royal. She's only on good terms with 2 men who could be fake marriage prospects. The ML and the 2ML (the prime minister). She is actually friends with the 2ML, respects him, and based on his personality.... he is not a good first choice. So that leaves the Grand Prince who she knows is an oddball, has flirted with her, and has done her a big favor in the past.
2) Traditionally, koreans live at home with their family until they are married. Same for royals. The Grand Prince is unmarried so he still lives in the main royal palace where the King and Queen Dowager live. Part of the rationale for him being Regent is him still officially living in the palace. He can take care of all official matters right at home and can directly groom the current king for when he takes over power. The Grand Prince is techinically the head of the royal houshold, until the king grows up ORRRR until he gets married and has his own offical household. Once he gets married, what happens in the royal palace is techinically no longer his business. But we know the ML is a rule breaker, so if he marries just anyone, we know he will still stick his nose into palace business when he wants. So the queen dowager wants to pick his wife to have someone on her side who can reign him in and keep him out of the palace.
2.5)The Queen Dowager is not a royal by blood so she would not be first in the running to be regent. Regents are usually in the line of succession and/or the most powerful politician besides the king. So the prime minister would take over for the Grand Prince bc he is literally the PRIME minister and is probably a high ranking noble who is high up in the line of succession.
3) Royals can marry whoever they want. They can give their spouse official status if they dont have it. Plus its still 2025/2026 in the drama... its just taboo. People can complain and comment on it, and try to block it as if its inapropriate but there is no set rule. She's not even a noble to begin with so what does her illigitimacy really even matter.
I'm confused. Why is it that Grand Prince Yi An not the sucessor to the crown? I thought the former deceased king…
Thrones are passed down from parent to child. It doesnt matter how young the child is, once the king has a son, no matter the age... if that king dies, the son becomes king.
In the drama we have seen 3 kings so far. - ML's father (died) - ML's brother (died) - ML's nephew, the current king.
So even though the nephew is a child... his father (the ML's brother) was king. The nephew takes the crown.
Anyone thinking that Yi An might become king some time during the series?
I do. In the show we see that so many ppl recognize that he is suited for the role. The whole nation realizes it. It seems like his father and brother knew too. Potential spoilers***
My theory is that he is destined to be king. As a child, he always was the better pick to be the future king. I'd go as far as to say he may have even been crown prince at some point (that would explain his name change as a child). But his older brother, who doesnt even want it, gets the role...we assume the older brother was born to be the crown prince as the oldest but that might have not been true.
If so, my sub-theory is that the ML was originally betrothed to the current Queen Dowager or maybe as kids they were childhood sweethearts, but she chose power over the ML and picked the older brother instead. Problem for her was that the older brother wasnt suited for the crown, but the guy she dumped is. And now that its too late, she realizes he is destined for it, but as someone who was groomed to be perfect and never make the wrong choices, her ego wont let him be great. This sub theory is a stretch but them being exes or something explains why she keeps inappropriately calling him by his name.
But yea, it seems like he spent his life trying NOT to be the center of attention but thats just naturally who he is. So bc of that he's a threat to everyone who has or wants the crown. And those people just so happen to be his family. He values those ties over power so every time he had an opprotunity to be king, he stepped out of the way for whoever was in line. But everyone knows, he only needs to want it for it to happen.
She was groomed to be a queen and queen dowager. Yet her husband and her son who are the ones she needs to keep this position arent suited to be royals. But the person who is suited for it is the Grand Prince... who if he wanted to, could easily take the crown from his nephew. And it seems like the queen dowager is a bit too comfortable with calling the Grand Prince by his first name. Its giving she chose the wrong brother...
he won't suit for such roles... cuz, he has an appearance of an 18-20y/o boy. Also he stated that he would only…
I actually think he would definitely suit a noona romance. The noona in question would just be a younger noona. And I think that would be a little refreshing rather than always portraying this dynamic with a woman in her late 30s or 40s and a man in their late 20s. Something similar to my dearest nemesis.
I think it helps that her husband has his own revenge journey and it is intertwined with her own. Do you guys think he has realized how scheming she is yet? I know he's figured out she's very complex and clearly is doing more than taking care of the household....but do you think he's realized shes the mastermind he was trying to find?
You guys wrongly assumed that she is attempting to tease others, and that she is not being self aware. But when you realize she is very aware that she of all people should not be the one saying this, that very absurdity and irony is the joke. SHE is the joke, not them. It is not a "savage joke" where someone else is being teased or dissed for their misfortune.
Anyways...may this couple not recieve ANY of the strange energy in these comments and the best to their baby. Sending good luck and good health to PSH, congrats girl.
No hes not so go back and edit your comment to delete that on this post about a nice family man welcoming a baby. This is how rumors start. And I KNOW you know better.
2) Traditionally, koreans live at home with their family until they are married. Same for royals. The Grand Prince is unmarried so he still lives in the main royal palace where the King and Queen Dowager live. Part of the rationale for him being Regent is him still officially living in the palace. He can take care of all official matters right at home and can directly groom the current king for when he takes over power. The Grand Prince is techinically the head of the royal houshold, until the king grows up ORRRR until he gets married and has his own offical household. Once he gets married, what happens in the royal palace is techinically no longer his business. But we know the ML is a rule breaker, so if he marries just anyone, we know he will still stick his nose into palace business when he wants. So the queen dowager wants to pick his wife to have someone on her side who can reign him in and keep him out of the palace.
2.5)The Queen Dowager is not a royal by blood so she would not be first in the running to be regent. Regents are usually in the line of succession and/or the most powerful politician besides the king. So the prime minister would take over for the Grand Prince bc he is literally the PRIME minister and is probably a high ranking noble who is high up in the line of succession.
3) Royals can marry whoever they want. They can give their spouse official status if they dont have it. Plus its still 2025/2026 in the drama... its just taboo. People can complain and comment on it, and try to block it as if its inapropriate but there is no set rule. She's not even a noble to begin with so what does her illigitimacy really even matter.
In the drama we have seen 3 kings so far.
- ML's father (died)
- ML's brother (died)
- ML's nephew, the current king.
So even though the nephew is a child... his father (the ML's brother) was king. The nephew takes the crown.
My theory is that he is destined to be king. As a child, he always was the better pick to be the future king. I'd go as far as to say he may have even been crown prince at some point (that would explain his name change as a child). But his older brother, who doesnt even want it, gets the role...we assume the older brother was born to be the crown prince as the oldest but that might have not been true.
If so, my sub-theory is that the ML was originally betrothed to the current Queen Dowager or maybe as kids they were childhood sweethearts, but she chose power over the ML and picked the older brother instead. Problem for her was that the older brother wasnt suited for the crown, but the guy she dumped is. And now that its too late, she realizes he is destined for it, but as someone who was groomed to be perfect and never make the wrong choices, her ego wont let him be great. This sub theory is a stretch but them being exes or something explains why she keeps inappropriately calling him by his name.
But yea, it seems like he spent his life trying NOT to be the center of attention but thats just naturally who he is. So bc of that he's a threat to everyone who has or wants the crown. And those people just so happen to be his family. He values those ties over power so every time he had an opprotunity to be king, he stepped out of the way for whoever was in line. But everyone knows, he only needs to want it for it to happen.