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Bc it still feels like she is babysitting him, helping him, guiding him. Until he becomes her pillar of support and standing up for justice, he won't seem like a man to her. She is not interested in just using a young stud boy toy. She was flattered by his attention but that's it.... Her man would have to have a lot more substance and be a real warrior like her... Albert has potential but he is not there yet, he is still an airhead baby to her... . So... Whatever happens is ok :) I am curious if that lunch with her Boss will change Shin.... bc she loves him still... but ... Shin is too .... heavy LOL Airhead vs heavy .... Nobody so far is right for Miss Hong yet.

was it... ? the drama has starts of many tropes but ended them all in a new way... did you notice?

Please don't. Webtoon is its own thing and drama is its own thing. Dont expect webtoon in a drama

Yes sure, Albert is a man.... a young man :) There is a differene in experince :) i understand you like him, but try to be objective. Let us profile him.

Ep 12 around 1 hr 2 mins, Bok Hui and FL have a talk about Albert and BH says Albert is smitten but it is too shameful bc he is younger, and FL just brushes it off - as something irrelevant as it is not happening INSIDE HER and as a nuisance accusation. Notice she also dismisses Nora as "Ms. Kang" - is it bc she thinks Nora is not in the way of her and Albert, OR bc she cannot stand Nora and Mr Shin engagement... ?

In any case, FL has no official plans with Albert at the moment, although it is clear he is crushing on her. She still treats him as a youngter. Their personal talk around min 50 ep 12 is the key to understand their relationship. She is sharing something personal to teach him something personal. So .... that can go in the way of romance, OR in the way of her being an older mentor and coaching him to do better at their task.

Age difference is not wha matters..... BC YOU NEVER KNOW HOW OLD PPL REALLY ARE lol bc some ppl look young, some older, etc. They key is that some ppl FEEL as if they were older bc they are wise for their age and some ppl are 70 yr old kids...

What matters is the life experience and maturity and general lifestyle, and most importantly, ***the same spiritual belief system***. THAT is THE key. That is why Shin dropped out with FL, bc his belief system is selfishness and FL despises that.
And yeah. physical ability matters LOL it can be the determining factor in some cases LOL ;)

Albert lacks business and life experience, the GRIEF experience, the past, wins and loses, that FL has as having lived 10 yrs more and without the protection that Albert had. Albert grew up with a silver spoon and he does not know hardships of life.

AROUND MIN 50 of EP 12 is when FL and Albert talk about grief in their lives. Albert for the first time experiences betrayal - by his own father - and FL shares her experience with Shin adn what she learned from it. She teaches him how to look at it.

Albert knows some grief, bc he lost his mother, his father is a criminal, and he lives surrounded by evil nasty criminals and had to hide and lie to survive, litrally to save his life, LITERALLY.

But he still doesnt know how PRIVILEGED he is. Just like Nora noticed how she is treated differently as Director vs just an officer. Albert never had to make a living for real, make money, worry about his expenses, live with red tape, money scarcity, getting a job, being afraid of being fired, kissing ass of his bosses, etc.

Albert lived a privileged sheltered life. THAT makes him young :)
Albert lived under constant thread of being murdered - THAT makes him very wise and old :)

Albert made Yuido pirates not to do great things but bc he was bored .... that is a very very very young thing....
and to his credit, he wanted to do something useful and he picked that. Good! He does not know much about business yet ... and luckily FL is training him to become the President. Good. So he is growing up.

As a man - we dont know Albert's dating history. We can tell he is sensitive to his woman, knows how to charm and he knows how to be a gentleman and how to pursue, and WHEN to step forth and when to hold back. That is all manly. Romantically, Albert is very talented and skilled and mature. Albert is not afraid to come close, so we can tell he is emotionally healthy; we also saw that he is committed. I conclude, he could be a decent partner IF he knows how to handle disagreement. So far, we never saw him quarreling with FL and having a disagreement, in open. We know how he is handling knowing that she likes Shin - he pretends not to see it and he just outdoes the competition. Again. that is a great man as a man. The last thing I want to see to give him a "manly man" label is: HOW DOES HE HANDLE OPEN DISAGREEMENT? if he is capable of talking it through and listening, then yeah he is great.

Right now we are not discussing if Albert is for FL or not.. We are talking in general. Those two do NOT HAVE TO BE a pair :)

But Albert can be a good pair to someone. If he is consistently committed, considerate, and talks things trough as a good teammate, then Albert is a mature manly man :) a great romanticn partner.

Albert was a man when he invited FL on a date. He likes her and he acted on that esp knowing Shin is after her :) That is what only a man who is interested will do. Notice that Mr. Lee never invited her anywhere... I guess also bc he knows that Albert likes her and he doe snot want to interfere...

**** It is to Shin that Albert said that there was nothing between him and FL but he wished there was something inappropriate :) He never said it to FL directly ***** It would have been really ranchy to say it to her as her boss taking her on a date thinking she is 20 yrs old..... . So he kept himself under the radar, which was also super appropriate and manly - he was her boss and he was taking it super slow. polite and as a gentleman.

But in that chair, he went totally openly ranchy LOL he was saying straight to her face looking her in the eye, in public - supposedly jokingly - that he doesnt do that kind of s.x, which was a direct poke and hook to FL bc he was implying that he interpreted her chaining him to the char as she initiating s.x with him - so that is a message THIS IS WHAT I THINK OF YOU WHEN YOU COME CLOSER - notice he wasnt afraid, etc, he took it as a "let's start s.x" - and he was offering his take on how he wants to proceed - it was a direct poke to her to notice him and start wondering about what he WOULD like to do together LOL he is a very skilled charmer LOL So that is also what a man does, some self advertising commonon LOL

Notice, he dropped dating her. But he did not give her up.
And he does not care that she is this Big Scary Important Woman. He is not intimidated. He is even coming closer in more admiration. That is also manly, he is not afraid to come close to the one he likes.

So we do NOT know where this goes as he could be just admiring her as someone kind and caring towards him,someone stable who would NOT betray him and who would always treat him well. Miss Hong is a very safe romantic partner. She is loyal, committed, and has integrity. there is ZERO risk with her. So that is her charm to him. She is his mentor in many ways and is making him into an adult mature man right now.
So - will she notice him or not ... let's see :) He is getting to be a relationship material.

SHE CANNOT NOTICE HIM AS LONG AS SHE IS THE ONLY ONE HELPING HIM. She would notice him if he becomes her pillar of support :) Will that ever happen... ? let's see. Will Shin change his mind before that happens... ? let's see

So will it be FL or not..... we are sure Albert can pull off a relationshiop with SOMEONE, and he is healthy and smart enough to pick a good woman as a life partner. THAT in itself is very manly.

So overall, Albert is definitely a grown up man. A younger one, with a great potential. He will dfind someone for sure and be very successful as he keeps growing and learning.

Ok then I am profiling Albert now. See the spoiler. @Gabriela @Piquina

I decided to be generous and to share with you the lesson on intimacy, which I learned from a cheesy Meg Ryan rom com called PICTURE PERFECT. She hires Nick to pretend to be her fiance. And he asks her: HOW MANY SPOONS OF SUGAR DO YOU TAKE IN YOUR COFFEE?" She says wth..? and he says - " if we are that close, I need to know that. " Meg Ryan stares at him for like a minute and in that minute, she Understands what Love is and she falls in love with him. She understand how caring and reliable nice guy he is, and ... she then proceeds to snag him :)

So that is the criteria for intimacy - do you know how many spoons of sugar does your partner take in their coffee or tea or whatever it is they drink, so that you can pour it for them without asking.
That kind of stuff doesnt happen just by physical intimacy. That kind of stuff takes some time and drinking tea or coffee together and talking etc....

So this is my gift to you, so that you dont feel like nothing good comes out of the West. It can :) That scene from that movie changed my life and made me understand better what love is, too.

Wow yeah, how many billions is the Chinese short verticals industry ...
Yeah I see your point, if you are going to produce trash, at least make it cheap :)

but imo most kdramas are a lot higher quality than cdramas

wow, good catch!!! seems like we gotta learn korean asap. This drama is chock-full of comedy

Indeed..... I agree with you..... Albert is not a kid anymore... Events pushed him to get off his as@ and act... and he is not acting as a kid :) .... it is revealed more and more how serious ALbert it.
Albert is 10 yrs younger than FL and a kid compared to her life experience, and she treated him as a kid, but what is recently discovered, shows that he was doing things that are extremely serious grown up and that he is currently amping his efforts. That is why I was questioning his present "kid" status. He is going for President..

After his confession about being... you know who :) and his s.x joke at the FL when she tied him, and his flowers to her, accepting hr suggestion for presidency, and his promises to help her, I am thinking ... hm.... there is obvious evidence he was very active and not such a kid this entire time. He is still a kid to FL bc in comparison to her, he is a kid, but ... he is getting more and more serious. One day soon, maybe even FL will not see him as a kid anymore

And yeah you are right, I agree, Shin is a troubled teenager, doing crime... and putting crime before people

Bc she is maturing, right now she is more and more of a woman and a business woman rather than just a dumb kid. She is a great aunty, she is a helper to her coleagues, etc. her outfits are getting to be high heels and screaming red pant suits and fuzzy faux fur coats... She is getting more glam, more smart, more loving....

I wanst thrilled with her in JFH... it was ok but nothing special. She was rather one sided evil with some sexual interests in the cute guy. Well - not a big deal LOL
This drama is a LOT more complex and fun

No Tail to Tell has potential but is not filmed properly so dont have high expectations :) There is humor. There could have been a lot more :)
I remembered rom coms that were truly comical, like My Sweet Mobster (ML is hilarious - dressed like Keano Reeves in Matrix, but with the voice and manner of speech that are ... LOL ),
Sorry but Not Sorry (actor Daniel is so funny and that hilarious actress ... ah what is her name... she is the best friend with kids in that drama),
Love Tracks has 10 gems, ...
Hee Su from Class 2 is the best lgbt+ intro I have ever seen for people who are not promiscuous, and it got so much bad comments from lgbt+ ppl bc what they consider "good" dramas tend to be a lot more pornographic and promiscuous and this one was NOT at all, it was a real love story about ordinary young people who just happen to be gay.

Miss Hong is a gold mine for comedy bc it is LOADED with excellent actors and practically every scene has tons of it, it is FILMED In a way that just creates scene after scene that is totally memorable and most are hilariously funny. The plot is not transformational but more action oriented but there are some transformations.

Our Universe is very comedic, ML is totally hilarious, but the FL is not the most energetic type so she dampens it. That drama is super deep and also very cute, the kiddo is portrayed in such adorable and funny and revolutionary way, he has a say :)

I like Positively Yours. I think we are having this discussion bc you said you didnt like it... It is not comedic in the hilarious way. It is more .. polished sophisticated mature adults. The ML-FL pair is so cute! they are just such a great team. THat drama is a revolutionary drama on gender equality. And it uses old tropes to start with, and then morphs them into a different ending :) It is an amazing concept. So maybe you will be able to see its value...

Watch SOME episodes of Recipe for Love LOL Start from ep 1 just in case :) That drama will be one of the classic masterpieces, if it continues like this. Witness the history in the making :)
And It is like Miss Hong, no matter where you jump in, you will find hilarious comedy

This is what happened after they went camping and ML got all wet in the rain:
It is weekend, FL is going out with SML, she says "she has to"... ML says he will take care of Woo Ju, she says she will take care of Woo Ju bc it is weekend and her turn.....
so SML, FL and Woo Ju in his new car seat that SML bought for him go out to eat etc, they are gone for many hours, SML kinda flippantly confesses, etc
Meanwhile, ML is very sick from being wet in the rain and all the stress of SML taking FL to hospital and out on a date with Woo Ju, .... So ML is unconscious with fever... FL keeps calling him and he doesnt answer...
SML asks FL to stay longer... but FL rushes home to help ML ... and when ML wakes up from fever, he seriously confesses

SO FL GOT TWO CONFESSIONS IN ONE DAY

Oh, thank you for clarifying this. I was going to get back to this and then forgot.

Late on Sat night, I realized that I wrote my Sat posts in total forgetfulness of the fact that FL, SML and WooJu ***already*** went out together. That ep 5-6-already aired ... this week I think?

So I think maybe you didnt watch that episode? I am putting the summary into a spoiler tag here. Dramabeans has great recaps so if you miss any big plots like this, you can always check there. https://dramabeans.com/2026/02/our-universe-episodes-5-6/ I just doublechecked to make sure I am remembering correctly :) and what I put into the spoiler tag is correct :)

So seems like you did not see that episode?
*****SML definitely spent many hours with FL and Woo Ju on a weekend outing, and he confessed to FL. *****

I think that is confusing to Woo Ju bc kids are energetic antennas, they pick up everything, so when his "mom" flirts with this unknown man, and his "dad" is upset, Woo Ju must be feeling something is weird.

FL is not a slut, she is not sleeping around nor collecting money, she is just weak ignorant dull unaware and stringing two guys, and that is all ok as her personal choice to live a slimey life... IF SHE DOES IT ON HER OWN, WITHOUT WOO JU.

But if she goes on these flirt escapades, she must not take Woo Ju with her.

(The full turth is actually worse, bc it is a fact that Woo Ju and ML would know if she went on flirt escapades even if she kept is hidden... and the whole family would be affected. )

But for the sake of argument right now, I will say that woman is not married nor committed so if she strings 2 guys, that is her choice to live a slimey life, but she must not entangle Woo Ju in that and take him with her when she is chasing her flame.
FL kept hitting on SML and it was clear she wanted him to proceed, and her going to that outing was just a part of that. But she really did not want SML. She is already started with ML. So she has to be a strong person and admit that to HERSELF first and then the two men. And Woo Ju goes only with his "dad", the ML.

Sorry this is too long but I think I was clear :) Thank you for your patience :)

I totally disagree with what you said, and also there are LOTS of logical holes in what you said. In fact, it sounds very defensive and irrational. And confused. Like, someone is attacking "your" country so you are defending it.... irrationally. This is blind loyalty to some unquestioned belief system.

Remember the medical marijuana on every corner of every street in the USA? The highway signs do not say anymore "don't drink and drive" but "DONT GET HIGH AND DRIVE" lol

FYI Intimacy and having s.x for one night are two totally different concepts and having a baby together is on a whole new level too... and you forget to look at the context.

I do not have the time to answer to you bc you dont want to hear it :) So bye :)

Thank you for your kind words.

Augh no... I never said anything is "common", you made that up bc you misread...
I started with "common" as in COME ON NOW! stop talking about nonsense and get back to the facts
Then I said people have their past and the triangle popped up from her past relationship

I never said it was my experience etc etc etc

SO WHAT I MEANT IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A PAST AND THERE IS PROBABLY ALREADY SOME UNCLEARED EXES, SOME ONGOING CRUSHES AND INTERESTS, FROM AND TO, AND OTHER TYPES OF COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIPS

Yeah they are diametrically opposite. I dropped Radiant Season as trash LOL it is such bad filming and acting

Yeah what's the issue with babies, any time there is a baby, it is baby propaganda??? But *****babies are a normal part of life******. So what's the big deal????

So this is the terror of the young adults and working age adults, god forbid that the story is not JUST ABOUT THEM, they do not want to see anything too young or too old,....

BABIES AND OLD PEOPLE ARE A PART OF LIFE. ACCEPT THAT

Oh! you are right, I was not clear. THAT is not what I was trying to say. Thank you for pointing that out. OK then, I retyped my post.
I wrote another post just about that so I kinda summarized here. I am not sure what that original poster meant by "slutshaming" but it is not appropriate here... She did not sleep around nor collect money... . She is just ignorant, dull, unaware, slimey, stringing both guys and flirting with both, basically using them -actively chasing the CEO and passively encouraging the roomie.

MY MAIN POINT IS THAT SHE DOES DESERVE CRITICISM FOR TAKING THE KID ON HER FLIRT ESCAPADES, BC she is irresponsible and abusive to the kid to present herself flirting with someone else. Kids get confused and anxious and sad when their mommy or daddy flirts with someone else.
If she wants to string multiple guys, she is free to do that, AND she must go out flirting alone. That is what I actually meant and wrote in a separate post.