3 more episodes to š„²Iām hoping for a happy ending
How... ? I am dreading it bc I dont see how it could be possible ACCORDING TO MY 21ST CENTURY MONOGAMOUS STANDARDS lol I think it is possible to achieve Joseon "tolerable life" per my standards - he as king, she as his concubine, stuck in the palace. Or - he is king, she as the lead doctor and them meeting in secret once in a while... Or - they elope to Qing - but then who leads Joseon... ?? That's all I can see as realistic and to my 21st century monogamous standards, it is HORRIFYING lol I am so glad I am born in a more egalitarian and free era. This drama is making me appreciate my life a lot more :)
she is too unreal and creeps me out. She is too good to be true. I have never met a woman who would be able to "stay friends" with both after she liked him, did not find anyone else, and LIVED right there with them. It is easy to stay friendly if she left or joined a monastery or married LOL but to be right there... hm...
I`m not sure how /where their going with this..her character is kinda based on a well known fictional hero who…
Me too. She can be his concubine, which means jailed for life in the palace and he would have to officially marry SFL and keep her on the books and even sleep with her. How many kids did he have as a real life historical King?
left state minister pulled a lizard tail move. deep down he prefers the better looking entitled goth boy of a…
the same holds for worshiping sons in this day and age.. so many societies are sexist.. so when parents worship sons, it is inevitable that sons become snowflakes. And polygamy too... in every polygamous society, men are made snowflakes...
Giving credit to this drama for pulling me in and really rooting for the characters... My 21st century monogamous pairing beliefs are severely clashing with this drama time period... and making me frantically thank the entire universe that I am born in an era when I am free to do as I wish. If I were some Allmighty being, I would probably bring ML and FL to 21st century LOL But I wouldnt bc perhaps ML is the best person to lead Joseon and SHOULD be the king.
I am dreading the ending of this drama bc objectively for that time period, ML cannot really marry the FL and then the two live happily ever after. Yeah one realistic ending is marrying the noble SFL as the official wife and keeping FL jailed in the palace as his concubine. TO ME as a 21st century monogamous watcher, It is a disgusting ending in many ways, but the only possible if he keeps his title. If he does not keep his title, then ... how will he make a living... ??? and still, he is a noble, even if he is not a crown prince, CAN he marry FL as his only wife???
Also, the demands of his title and his duty to make Korea a great place, versus ML/FL personal desire to live happily ever after .... ML would make a good king... so perhaps there is no way he could quit his title... ough...
So my 21st century monogamous self is screaming in pain here. I got to like the characters and want to see then happy, but I do not see a way. So I think I am gonna sit on the side "biting my nails" agonizing in utmost anxiety and expecting the worst LOL
Joseon is like living in a lion pack, it is very ... animalistic and low. I am glad humans evolved somewhat :) and women and more free and there is "equal opportunity" to some degree and there are options to be monogamous. After liking characters in a historical drama like this, the issues of "caste" and awful rules are more personal and it really makes me even more horrified of those "good old times" and also EXTREMELY GRATEFUL for living in a more egalitarian era and more freedom. THANK YOU UNIVERSE FOR BETTER TIMES
We in 21st century still have those issues, if you are a public figure you are quite bound, but ... I think we have more options :) THANK YOU UNIVERSE :)
I hope writernim gives them a happy ending not a bittersweet or open ending after all the suffering we deserve…
I am dreading the ending bc objectively for that time period, ML cannot really marry the FL and then the two live happily ever after. Yeah one realistic ending is marrying the noble SFL as the real life and keeping FL jailed in the palace as his concubine. It is a disgusting ending in many ways, but the only possible if he keeps his title. If he does not keep his title, then ... how will he make a living... ??? and still, he is a noble, CAN he marry FL as his only wife??? It is really rotten choices any way you look at it. They are slaves to the "lion pack rules"
I know some people think the SML is strongly written, but I completely disagree. To me, he comes across as very…
Wow this is an amazing review!!!! I am impressed! I TOTALLY agree with you. I would add my 2 cents worth: it seems to me that SML was interesting only bc it is a very good looking young male actor who obviously has a large fan base, and those girls do not care for the role he is playing, they are just watching him for the sole purpose of swooning. The audience cannot see the role and does not care for the role...
I totally agree with you, the script did not spend much time painting his character and that is sad. We just got to see that he feels bad about himself and ppl who feed him, and yet wants to stay there and be rich at all costs.
I think the script thought that a few scenes from his father and brother saying what they think of him, and SML telling bs to FL, would be enough to make us believe in the path that made SML what he is. So you are saying it was not enough.
Are you saying it would have been great to show a few scenes of his mother or his father treating him as a child or something like that?
The script makes SML very violent, then start showing his good side bc of his "love" aka confused feelings for FL, and then bring him back to violence. So we as audience are left to make our own conclusions about SML feelings and inner workings and where exactly he has gone off to the evil side.
I think the SML actor acted pretty good for what he was given in the script, and was able to show the wicked side and the emotional side and the conflict quite well. I think that actor qualifies for ML roles, as he can act violence, pain, anxiety, love, care, internal conflict.
The funny thing is how earlier reviews by oppa_ are written by someone Asian whose English is not good and who wrote very amateur stuff, and now we have this art-critic-worthy essay in perfect English ...
WHO IS THIS OPPA_ REALLY? it seems to be a troll account .. ....
Ta da! The twins finally met face-to-face at the department store, the cliffhanger. It was also not an illusion…
Yeah Chef knows for sure he was adopted bc it was when he got leukemia and he was like 5 yrs old? So that is where that interesting dynamics is coming from - proessor's wife calls him 'son" and he is polite and calls them mom and dad - but he is icy cold to them and vitriolic towards Baek Ho. I really dislike how all of them treat Baek Ho
I see a lot of comments not liking SML here tho... me included ;D
what do you know :) I am certainly not looking at him as a 2-d person. he is complex. BUT I have no desire to study him :) I'd rather study someone nice :) I think the Prince Charming is a lot better complex person to study :)
I don't think the twins will die. Possibly they will take turns at fooling the evil mom and Manager Lee. They…
yeah there has to be taking turns bc it is too tough to film scenes with both of them in.... or is it? I saw a dancer who filmed herself dancing as 4 people... and she did not even have AI back then
Okay why are you insulting her weight y'all don't know how š¤ strict companies can be? And the crying scenes…
you mean her management company? Well that kind of exploitation needs to stop. In the USA, fashion models must maintain minimum weight.
As for judging - those skinny ones are judging everyone else!!!! Every magazine, news, advertisements, etc has only super skinny people, so ... that small group is judging and fat shaming everyone else!! GET A GRIP!!!! Marylin Monroe is a FAT PIG based on those standards!!!!! Marylin is a healthy and sexy woman and she is considered a FAT PIG according to those "companies" you mention. This too skinny is a health issue, it is well known for athletes. Women cannot maintain their periods and hormones when body fat is less than 20-30%. HORMONES DO NOT WORK WITHOUT ENOUGH BODY FAT.
It is obvious that you are unaware of the issues. So consider yourself lucky that you got some info and now lets prevent those monsters forcing anyone to have less than 10% body fat. That is INSANE AND UNHEALTHY
I googled it: it's not gonna work to have Jang Mi going to the USA to become a Michelin Chef - it takes 10-15 yrs to do that. A realistic thing is 21 months of good culinary school and then 1 yr internship under a Michelin Chef. But Jun Ho is not a chef anymore ... so ... dunno how this route could work... Seo Rim going away with Suk Hee seems more plausible but .. Suk Hee will know it is not Jang Mi :) so will they tell her both are alive? ..... so dunno how this route could work... and why would they swap? Seo Rim dying is not an option LOL Seo Rim in a coma - no....
I really like Beak Ho, he is really nice kind gentle warm STABLE RELIABLE guy and has some brains, and the actor is acting that role very well and makes Baek Ho seem real. Hm, he is a better version of his dad... who also is a rather kind person, his reaction to the car accident shows it... but .. dad is too dumb naive and ok with morally shady and lying, and falls in love twice with snakes... Baek Ho has good taste, Jang Mi, although not a rocket scientist, is a good person and would make a wonderful wife in many ways, esp when she opens her mind and starts shining. Jang Mi and Baek Ho are a perfect match for each other - both are kind, dedicated, warm family ppl who arent the smartest but are adequate, who arent the visionaries but a stable foundation for the society.. So called "ordinary" family people.
Baek Ho is handsome too so overall, a nice and kind presence on the screen is welcome :) And "in" the screen too, his persistent help paid off. Jang Mi likes him :) he is a natural part of her environment. His plan worked LOL as usual. I have not seen a woman who did NOT fall for a dedicated loyal nice guy who was always there for her... he is nice, handsome and totally hers. I am glad she was smart enough to realize quickly that he is irresistible.
But to be truly her da man, Baek Ho first needs to grow up some, he is so naive and often quite dumb.. e.g. he found out Manager Lee went to buy soju and then he went to Manager Lee to ask him. I forgot the exact scene bc my jaw dropped and my eyes popped in total shock LOL I couldnt believe what I was seeing LOL
Really, imo the spunky colorful adventuresome Seo Rim is the smartest one and the most fun to me in the whole show. Without Seo Rim, the plot would NEVER EVER move forward. Everyone else is as slow and thick like molasses......
So we need Seo Rim in the drama, she lives and stays active... !
Jang Mi could never impersonate Seo Rim 100%, and vice versa. Jang Mi is a stable and steady caretaker mother hen. No risks, no deviations... her dreams and aspirations are rather "ordinary"... to be a Michelin chef. Jang Mi does not see herself shaking the world anew... Seo Rim is like a dragonfly, fast, refreshingly creative, unique, adventuresome, free risk taker and player. She will be perfect for the Chef to go to business meetings and banquets with, talk to customers, have big "on the bleeding edge" successful projects, etc. She is a shaker and mover with big bold visions. The Chef will be a good match for her, he has big bold visions too and is an adventuresome risk taker - how he hang out at the bad job bc he wanted to turn over the bad restaurant - he is a big man at heart, bold and fearless business person, but first he has to melt big time to match her. Right now, Chef typically annoys me, bc he is too ... stiff. The actor is too ... simple in his acting.
If there is anything we learned from Tae Puyng, it is not to assume that anyone who SEEMS = I think the keyword is SEEMS - to help us is a nice person meaning well...
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Or - he is king, she as the lead doctor and them meeting in secret once in a while...
Or - they elope to Qing - but then who leads Joseon... ??
That's all I can see as realistic and to my 21st century monogamous standards, it is HORRIFYING lol I am so glad I am born in a more egalitarian and free era. This drama is making me appreciate my life a lot more :)
It is easy to stay friendly if she left or joined a monastery or married LOL but to be right there... hm...
and he would have to officially marry SFL and keep her on the books and even sleep with her.
How many kids did he have as a real life historical King?
And polygamy too... in every polygamous society, men are made snowflakes...
I am dreading the ending of this drama bc objectively for that time period, ML cannot really marry the FL and then the two live happily ever after.
Yeah one realistic ending is marrying the noble SFL as the official wife and keeping FL jailed in the palace as his concubine. TO ME as a 21st century monogamous watcher, It is a disgusting ending in many ways, but the only possible if he keeps his title. If he does not keep his title, then ... how will he make a living... ??? and still, he is a noble, even if he is not a crown prince, CAN he marry FL as his only wife???
Also, the demands of his title and his duty to make Korea a great place, versus ML/FL personal desire to live happily ever after .... ML would make a good king... so perhaps there is no way he could quit his title... ough...
So my 21st century monogamous self is screaming in pain here. I got to like the characters and want to see then happy, but I do not see a way. So I think I am gonna sit on the side "biting my nails" agonizing in utmost anxiety and expecting the worst LOL
Joseon is like living in a lion pack, it is very ... animalistic and low. I am glad humans evolved somewhat :) and women and more free and there is "equal opportunity" to some degree and there are options to be monogamous. After liking characters in a historical drama like this, the issues of "caste" and awful rules are more personal and it really makes me even more horrified of those "good old times" and also EXTREMELY GRATEFUL for living in a more egalitarian era and more freedom. THANK YOU UNIVERSE FOR BETTER TIMES
We in 21st century still have those issues, if you are a public figure you are quite bound, but ... I think we have more options :) THANK YOU UNIVERSE :)
Yeah one realistic ending is marrying the noble SFL as the real life and keeping FL jailed in the palace as his concubine. It is a disgusting ending in many ways, but the only possible if he keeps his title. If he does not keep his title, then ... how will he make a living... ??? and still, he is a noble, CAN he marry FL as his only wife??? It is really rotten choices any way you look at it. They are slaves to the "lion pack rules"
I TOTALLY agree with you.
I would add my 2 cents worth: it seems to me that SML was interesting only bc it is a very good looking young male actor who obviously has a large fan base, and those girls do not care for the role he is playing, they are just watching him for the sole purpose of swooning. The audience cannot see the role and does not care for the role...
I totally agree with you, the script did not spend much time painting his character and that is sad. We just got to see that he feels bad about himself and ppl who feed him, and yet wants to stay there and be rich at all costs.
I think the script thought that a few scenes from his father and brother saying what they think of him, and SML telling bs to FL, would be enough to make us believe in the path that made SML what he is. So you are saying it was not enough.
Are you saying it would have been great to show a few scenes of his mother or his father treating him as a child or something like that?
The script makes SML very violent, then start showing his good side bc of his "love" aka confused feelings for FL, and then bring him back to violence. So we as audience are left to make our own conclusions about SML feelings and inner workings and where exactly he has gone off to the evil side.
I think the SML actor acted pretty good for what he was given in the script, and was able to show the wicked side and the emotional side and the conflict quite well. I think that actor qualifies for ML roles, as he can act violence, pain, anxiety, love, care, internal conflict.
and now we have this art-critic-worthy essay in perfect English ...
WHO IS THIS OPPA_ REALLY? it seems to be a troll account .. ....
And ML is a crook stealing the company with his friend?
or is it? I saw a dancer who filmed herself dancing as 4 people... and she did not even have AI back then
Like this this is all one dancer ) without any AI :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxYgP_cuguc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR3XA2U0Ndw&list=RDKR3XA2U0Ndw&start_radio=1
he never checked the babys DNA when she took Chae and baby in
As for judging - those skinny ones are judging everyone else!!!! Every magazine, news, advertisements, etc has only super skinny people, so ... that small group is judging and fat shaming everyone else!! GET A GRIP!!!! Marylin Monroe is a FAT PIG based on those standards!!!!! Marylin is a healthy and sexy woman and she is considered a FAT PIG according to those "companies" you mention.
This too skinny is a health issue, it is well known for athletes. Women cannot maintain their periods and hormones when body fat is less than 20-30%. HORMONES DO NOT WORK WITHOUT ENOUGH BODY FAT.
It is obvious that you are unaware of the issues. So consider yourself lucky that you got some info and now lets prevent those monsters forcing anyone to have less than 10% body fat. That is INSANE AND UNHEALTHY
Seo Rim going away with Suk Hee seems more plausible but .. Suk Hee will know it is not Jang Mi :) so will they tell her both are alive? ..... so dunno how this route could work... and why would they swap?
Seo Rim dying is not an option LOL Seo Rim in a coma - no....
Baek Ho is handsome too so overall, a nice and kind presence on the screen is welcome :) And "in" the screen too, his persistent help paid off. Jang Mi likes him :) he is a natural part of her environment. His plan worked LOL as usual. I have not seen a woman who did NOT fall for a dedicated loyal nice guy who was always there for her... he is nice, handsome and totally hers. I am glad she was smart enough to realize quickly that he is irresistible.
But to be truly her da man, Baek Ho first needs to grow up some, he is so naive and often quite dumb.. e.g. he found out Manager Lee went to buy soju and then he went to Manager Lee to ask him. I forgot the exact scene bc my jaw dropped and my eyes popped in total shock LOL I couldnt believe what I was seeing LOL
Really, imo the spunky colorful adventuresome Seo Rim is the smartest one and the most fun to me in the whole show. Without Seo Rim, the plot would NEVER EVER move forward. Everyone else is as slow and thick like molasses......
So we need Seo Rim in the drama, she lives and stays active... !
Jang Mi could never impersonate Seo Rim 100%, and vice versa. Jang Mi is a stable and steady caretaker mother hen. No risks, no deviations... her dreams and aspirations are rather "ordinary"... to be a Michelin chef. Jang Mi does not see herself shaking the world anew...
Seo Rim is like a dragonfly, fast, refreshingly creative, unique, adventuresome, free risk taker and player. She will be perfect for the Chef to go to business meetings and banquets with, talk to customers, have big "on the bleeding edge" successful projects, etc. She is a shaker and mover with big bold visions. The Chef will be a good match for her, he has big bold visions too and is an adventuresome risk taker - how he hang out at the bad job bc he wanted to turn over the bad restaurant - he is a big man at heart, bold and fearless business person, but first he has to melt big time to match her. Right now, Chef typically annoys me, bc he is too ... stiff. The actor is too ... simple in his acting.
If there is anything we learned from Tae Puyng, it is not to assume that anyone who SEEMS = I think the keyword is SEEMS - to help us is a nice person meaning well...