This seems .. too naive?? these hot shot attorneys who are not careful enough... "nobody went into her room but medical personnel" ?? every kid knows that is how you kill ppl LOL by pretending to be a medical person who goes into their room... "Dont worry I will protect you" - wooow... how unrealistic and arrogant... meanwhile she has no food in the house so victim has to go out or someone - a killer - comes to deliver ... and ... stopping the victim when she started speaking up .... !!!! not letting the woman say the name of her husband!!! how dumb is that? Havent these 3 attorneys dealt with killers before? rape and killing goes together often so why are they so clueless??
In light of recent events concerning the Epstein files in US, Honour tells a story that needs to be heard. With…
this is the "gory" and bombastic reality but there is this DAILY mundane reality that is not so glorious but is a lot more important, bc everything else starts from that
There is something off about this drama and I can't figure out what. I don't care about cheating part as others,…
Did you read comments by user _oppa? He is definitely male, not sure how old and where from. He is extremely observant and extremely ... subversively subtly but powerfully sexist... so read his comments and you will understand what is fishy about this drama. I put a lot of effort to respond to him and somewhat debunk what he was saying, but HE WAS RIGHT in many ways. He 100% exposed this drama as worthless.
I tried to control the damage but his fundamental complaint is correct - and is confirmed by the comments from the audience - this drama is hypocrisy under the pretense of empowerment, the women are behaving just like men, totally callous. So this woman had a fling with her ex and it is ok bc she is female... ?
Do you realize how the audience here responds - it is not enlightened gender equality at all. It is the "ism" in reverse in many ways. "Ah it doesnt matter she had a fling.. dont be so morally sstuck up on that.... " etc
Also I am not sure if you read my comments, but I was saying ok this is a step but it is kinda gory hype instead of addressing the root causes of problems, which is sexism in daily life, not so glamourous topic but the key topic. Spring Fever supposedly "a fluffy romcom" did a LOT more for gender equality and justice than this hype drama Honour. Dramas like Dynamite Kiss, Hundred Memories, etc all DESTROYED any ideas of gender equality and female empowerment. Those dramas are evil, with such negative messages about women and men. They feed the most backwards social stereotypes. And the audience loves them.
Ooops!!!! I just looked at the drama poster - it has CEO Chae on top showing her butt in some pretty tight white dress, and below her are Chef and Seo Rim, and Baek Ho and Jang Mi. I said cool, these are the right pairs. Chef is already sold on Seo Rim. When she just left him, he was disappointed. He missed her. He is already caught, swallowed hook, line and sinker... and nobody else but Seo Rim could have done it. She was PERSISTENT AND CONSISTENT in showing her love, and she was genuine. She broke his walls.
THEN I read the synopsis on Wikipedia - and I suppose here too?? saying: "The series follows the intertwined lives of two women driven by deadly desires, one seeking vengeance, and the other fueled by selfish ambition" and then it says Jang Mi seeks revenge using Seo Rim's identity
IT WILL BE USELESS AND WASTE TO KILL SEO RIM. SHe is the best character in the drama. Jang Mi can never become like that. Jang Mi can and shoud get smarter and wiser, or else we will watch a stupidly bland moronic boring person to the end... !!!!! but her flavor is very different and should be preserved. She is kinder and more giving in some ways, she took care of her mother and family. Seo Rim just doesnt have that "mother hen" attitude
He is trying too hard. Everytime they turn around, he's there. He should give them some space. He should give…
Ah like when Chef was disappointed when Seo Rim didnt beg him to stay and just left his snoty game was interrupted, he got slapped LOL now he will have to chase her :)
their bad. He saved Jae In's life literally like 4 times so far... and got job for Tae Phuyng, who really is a dumb moron .... and helped them with all kinds of stuff... That family is soooo dumb to just keep dissing him!!!!!! The next thing is that they will try to kill Jae In again and how will she escape this time.... ????
Jang Mi is DUMB. DUMB . DUMB.... for example, she fired her bodyguard and she knows there was ... 3 or 4? attempts…
Yeah!!!! by seeing that there was 3 or 4 serious attempts to kill her, she should have been careful. But she is so dumb!!!! So far she is alive thanks to Baek Ho following her. Now she fired him so she is just a sitting duck. And Seo Rim is smart but gets too emotional, this is so overwhelming, she gets caught or blurts stuff out. Both twins have NO COMPREHENSION of the danger they are in, they are dealing with killers. So they COULD be killed, any time.
Seo Rim is holding up amazingly well considering that until yesterday she had "a mom" and today, she is…
yeah, exactly! she is SMART, her mind is not closed to receiveing new information. That is called LEARNING and is a sign of INTELLIGENCE. And her lack of fear is bc she is intelligent and thus confident that she will find a solution to whatever it is. She is relatively mature and not broken, her spirit is alive and well :) There are intelligent people who are emotionally / spiritually broken and cannot accept use of their intelligence, they lack confidence Dumb people do not accept new information, their brain is already "filled up" and incapable of learning something new, they instantly reject new information, they have this insatiable need to EXACTLY KNOW IT ALL all the time, and if they dont, they just reject that information LOL
Like Jae In here - her mom keeps screaming at Manager Lee, Jae In knows CEO Cha took down a banner, talked to her dad, is powerful and her mom's enemies are powerul, and did this or that, BUT what is in Jae In's head is the "blndly follow authority" so she REJECTS any new information that conflicts what she was already brainwashed in.
So today, in ep 41, Jae In is THE SAME PERSON AS IN EP 1. JAE IN IS SUPER BORING
TO A DUMB PERSON, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THEIR PRIDE AND THEM HAVING CONTROL AND GOOD IMAGE so in some way, insecurity and dumbness go hand in hand TO AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE RESULT, and they are willing to make mistakes and try new etc they are not all set "to look good" but to accomplish
What doesn't make sense? It all makes sense so far. Literally everything falls under his main goal to make sure…
nah they always proliferate back again... it is like cockroaches or weeds or rats... they keep proliferating. Some are worst than others and yeah KSJ was especially deadly, shall we say, a rat that carried corona virus global pandemic LOL but all of them are full of flies and diseases and very very dangerous . And they will never disappear!!!!!! and they will ALWAYS try to take over!!! Human life is so pathetic, we want to kill the person who crosses us in traffic, the opposing team or party members, anyone who annoys us, opposing religions, races, etc we are just wired to be greedy and snatching from each other like kids on the playground. Most adults are at the toddler level of consciousness. SO ALWAYS SOME WILL RISE TO CONTROL OTHERS.
They operate ONLY bc so called ordinary people are super dumb - greedy, egoistical, dumb, lazy - so those vermin always can find someone to manipulate and to exploit in exhange for a few stupid liittle favors and lots of sweet bsing.
currently, about 10% of population are psychopaths, ppl who kill without blinking, and about 25% are sociopaths, those who recruit others into doing bad things for the sociopath's benefit - the sweet ones who are never guilty but run the show and cause messes... the sweet bsers... gossip spreaders... social engineers... manipulations.... 25% of people are like that!!!!! And then probably 90% of population has shady morals and does not mind cheating, lying, stealing, revenges, backstabbing, etc. So there are broken humans, there are different kinds of aliens, demons, goblins, gumihos, grim reapers LOL etc etc etc we all share this space called Earth, so there is ALWAYS lot and lots and lots of morons who want to rise up and grab it all and misuse ppl.
So the solution is that the general population needs to be more spiritual and more aware of what is going on, and more aware of the law of karma - bc - it is not those bad guys, but lots of "good people" who turn the blind eye OR COLLABORATE with the bad guys doing bad stuff . Rememver what Hitler said - it is very fortunate that ordinary citizens dont think And who else said - the evil ir propagated by so called good people who just stand and watch. AND EVEN PARTICIPATE. bc it is fun, makes them feel powerful. gets them some benefit, etc For example just look at the rounding up of immigrants int he USA now total Nazi ways, and who is saying anything against it.. ???
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". “Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions.”
hwayoung's good samaritan attitude makes me nauseous. not even death can atone for her sins; she deserves something…
Seo Rim is holding up amazingly well considering that until yesterday she had "a mom" and today, she is already questioning her and has no problems to LEARN that her mother is a criminal. Seo Rim is used to living in a snake pit and being cautious , and she is smart and she is used to LEARNING FAST and RESPONDING FAST but not enough... bc this new level of literal crime to the point of killing someone is all new to her and she is overwhelmed.
BUT if she doesnt learn to hold it, she WILL get killed.
Ah that wicked backstabbing snake.... CEO Chae role is a great lesson in how NEVER to take these sweet people at face value.... the moral of the story, the most poisonous snakes are camoed as sweetie pies...
Do y’all share family matters to stranger like jangmi? I don’t even share with close ppl coz u never knw
Jang Mi is DUMB. DUMB . DUMB.... for example, she fired her bodyguard and she knows there was ... 3 or 4? attempts to kill her. Her mother told her what she saw, she doesnt believe it. Her mother pointed at Mr. Lee. The last phone call. The banner. ETc etc etc etc JAE MI IS SO DUMB SHE HAS NO SPACE FOR ANY NEW INFORMATION IN HER HEAD. SHE IS ON AUTOMATIC PILOT RUNNING ON STEREOTYPES. She is DUMB
SO I AM GONNA DROP THIS DRAMA IF ONLY JAE MI LIVES BC HONESTLY SHE IS STUPIDLY BORING CHARACTER. THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING INTERESTING THAT HAPPENED WITH HER. All her dialogue and actions are just one stupidity after another. It is waste of time to watch her.
Seo Rim is the star of the show. ANd yeah. that Chef was disappointed when she didnt beg him to stay and just left He learned to play games with her and it didnt work. Now he misses her. Stupid moron. It is time to break open that ice wall of his
Yeah you are right. In some ways, this is very similar. However, the feel and execution is different. It is like…
I was not a great fan of Ji Sung to be honest... bc his "superior jester superman in control" smirky flat face is annoying to me. I like his drama "Familiar Wife" but again, he was rather ... the same all the time. I thought Kill Me Heal Me was too crazy.
HOWEVER, in this drama I saw him doing some pretty heavy and amazing acting, showing vulnerability and emotion, so yeah. I gained respect for his acting.
I am not a huge fan of Lee Joon Gi acting. I think he was great for Flower of Evil and in King and Clown, actually the clown role imo was his best role and I remember him most from that. Then what... ? As if he tried to cover up any suspicion of gayness by picking only tough he-man roles. But there isnt much acting there. Complex roles like the clown are a lot more interesting. His role in Scarlet Heart was too cheesy and annoying bc it was just so overboard he-man flat one dimensional.
This is just what I’m in the mood for I wanna be entertained. I wanna feel good. I’m an American. Who Who…
Yeah I am kinda AI lol Unfortunately. I am not watching news bc it would be depressing. He is gonna kill whatever is left of environment, clear air, clean water, etc. I am not going back until he leaves and that might never happen, remember him saying once he gets in, he isnt leaving.
So I am one of the numerous victims of stealing homes in rhe USA, there is an epidemic of it, esp stealing condos and town homes from elderly, single women, minorities. So I am writing loooong and nuuumerous complaints... What I saw in Courts in Hawaii is SCARY, I would NOT recommend anyone to buy any property there, or even visit, there is no law. Anything goes. They just write up something fake, sue you, charge you huge amounts of money, judge grants all of that and nobody cares. FORECLOSURE JUDGES IN HAWAII ARE out there to steal and they use low circuit judges - since foreclosure judge is also Deputy Chief and Administrative Judge of 1st Circuit Court - and then appellate judges are ... wow corrupt the one who presided over my appeal worked with the opposing party attorneys for 30 years!!!! and they put him on my case!!!!! he granted them anything and didnt care for all their violations....
So ... A group of attorneys and JUDGES is stealing property under pretense of law. I AM WATCHING THE JUDGE RETURNS his old life IN REAL LIFE The situation is like in Made in Korea. The drug ppl need to launder their money, they buy property and do construction - bc you can pay huge amounts with cash. And politicians fund themselves with that.
Wow the low level of ppl who believe that doing that kind of stuff will make life better. I will never ever forget one very dark-skinned i think Jamaican or something like that, middle aged woman, who leaned to me in a major city and said in hushed tones how she cannot stand all these immigrants coming in. I was like hey ya trying to be white rich and powerful??? Ppl wanted to get a taste of that. And it looks in real life like you described. Very disgustingly pitiful.
One thing that I can see happening bc of my property is that THERE IS NO LAW ANYMORE IN THE USA. Now is the time of everyone who is in can grab as much as possible. That is like ... 1800s The USA is totally out of time and out if 21st century
This was a great advertisement for Korea's beach areas and countryside. I saw RVs parked by the beach. Also a great ad for alternate energy, being good at school, yeah studying in Seoul bc that's where the college will be the best.... .... also for for living in countryside, having families and a normal life in fresh air and greenery. And yeah, a small business owner.
Smart move to make this drama. It is a testimony to all ordinary ppl. Bravo.
And interestingly, this drama was the most "feminist" ever... as the male leads had to leave their female partners to solve their problems on their own. They helped when needed and also left space when needed. It was great relationship examples. The lesson to Ha Neuyl was powerful... And the lesson of tough love to the woman, no coddling.. I was surprised that FL just packed up and went back to Seoul. Wtf.... ???? So I am glad he didnt chase her and SHE had to decide to seek him out and say yes. And I like this "hot mama" image, as the middle aged couple at the end showed a lot of hot blood running.
Overall, lots of very positive and forward images... and I do hope they settled in countryside, why would he leave his company and his house... ?
I have no fireman knowledge but seems to me that it was NOT possible to save that drunk dude from the fire UNLESS he dumped the baby, which is out of question... . First he had to go out with the baby and by that time, everything inside fell apart.
and ... stopping the victim when she started speaking up .... !!!! not letting the woman say the name of her husband!!! how dumb is that? Havent these 3 attorneys dealt with killers before? rape and killing goes together often so why are they so clueless??
I put a lot of effort to respond to him and somewhat debunk what he was saying, but HE WAS RIGHT in many ways. He 100% exposed this drama as worthless.
I tried to control the damage but his fundamental complaint is correct - and is confirmed by the comments from the audience - this drama is hypocrisy under the pretense of empowerment, the women are behaving just like men, totally callous. So this woman had a fling with her ex and it is ok bc she is female... ?
Do you realize how the audience here responds - it is not enlightened gender equality at all. It is the "ism" in reverse in many ways. "Ah it doesnt matter she had a fling.. dont be so morally sstuck up on that.... " etc
Also I am not sure if you read my comments, but I was saying ok this is a step but it is kinda gory hype instead of addressing the root causes of problems, which is sexism in daily life, not so glamourous topic but the key topic.
Spring Fever supposedly "a fluffy romcom" did a LOT more for gender equality and justice than this hype drama Honour.
Dramas like Dynamite Kiss, Hundred Memories, etc all DESTROYED any ideas of gender equality and female empowerment. Those dramas are evil, with such negative messages about women and men. They feed the most backwards social stereotypes. And the audience loves them.
THEN I read the synopsis on Wikipedia - and I suppose here too?? saying: "The series follows the intertwined lives of two women driven by deadly desires, one seeking vengeance, and the other fueled by selfish ambition" and then it says Jang Mi seeks revenge using Seo Rim's identity
IT WILL BE USELESS AND WASTE TO KILL SEO RIM. SHe is the best character in the drama. Jang Mi can never become like that.
Jang Mi can and shoud get smarter and wiser, or else we will watch a stupidly bland moronic boring person to the end... !!!!! but her flavor is very different and should be preserved. She is kinder and more giving in some ways, she took care of her mother and family. Seo Rim just doesnt have that "mother hen" attitude
So I do hope both sisters live
his snoty game was interrupted, he got slapped LOL now he will have to chase her :)
The next thing is that they will try to kill Jae In again and how will she escape this time.... ????
And Seo Rim is smart but gets too emotional, this is so overwhelming, she gets caught or blurts stuff out.
Both twins have NO COMPREHENSION of the danger they are in, they are dealing with killers. So they COULD be killed, any time.
Dumb people do not accept new information, their brain is already "filled up" and incapable of learning something new, they instantly reject new information, they have this insatiable need to EXACTLY KNOW IT ALL all the time, and if they dont, they just reject that information LOL
Like Jae In here - her mom keeps screaming at Manager Lee, Jae In knows CEO Cha took down a banner, talked to her dad, is powerful and her mom's enemies are powerul, and did this or that, BUT what is in Jae In's head is the "blndly follow authority" so she REJECTS any new information that conflicts what she was already brainwashed in.
So today, in ep 41, Jae In is THE SAME PERSON AS IN EP 1. JAE IN IS SUPER BORING
TO A DUMB PERSON, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THEIR PRIDE AND THEM HAVING CONTROL AND GOOD IMAGE so in some way, insecurity and dumbness go hand in hand
TO AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE RESULT, and they are willing to make mistakes and try new etc they are not all set "to look good" but to accomplish
but all of them are full of flies and diseases and very very dangerous . And they will never disappear!!!!!! and they will ALWAYS try to take over!!!
Human life is so pathetic, we want to kill the person who crosses us in traffic, the opposing team or party members, anyone who annoys us, opposing religions, races, etc we are just wired to be greedy and snatching from each other like kids on the playground. Most adults are at the toddler level of consciousness. SO ALWAYS SOME WILL RISE TO CONTROL OTHERS.
They operate ONLY bc so called ordinary people are super dumb - greedy, egoistical, dumb, lazy - so those vermin always can find someone to manipulate and to exploit in exhange for a few stupid liittle favors and lots of sweet bsing.
currently, about 10% of population are psychopaths, ppl who kill without blinking, and about 25% are sociopaths, those who recruit others into doing bad things for the sociopath's benefit - the sweet ones who are never guilty but run the show and cause messes... the sweet bsers... gossip spreaders... social engineers... manipulations.... 25% of people are like that!!!!! And then probably 90% of population has shady morals and does not mind cheating, lying, stealing, revenges, backstabbing, etc.
So there are broken humans, there are different kinds of aliens, demons, goblins, gumihos, grim reapers LOL etc etc etc we all share this space called Earth, so there is ALWAYS lot and lots and lots of morons who want to rise up and grab it all and misuse ppl.
So the solution is that the general population needs to be more spiritual and more aware of what is going on, and more aware of the law of karma - bc - it is not those bad guys, but lots of "good people" who turn the blind eye OR COLLABORATE with the bad guys doing bad stuff . Rememver what Hitler said - it is very fortunate that ordinary citizens dont think And who else said - the evil ir propagated by so called good people who just stand and watch. AND EVEN PARTICIPATE. bc it is fun, makes them feel powerful. gets them some benefit, etc
For example just look at the rounding up of immigrants int he USA now total Nazi ways, and who is saying anything against it.. ???
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". “Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions.”
Seo Rim is used to living in a snake pit and being cautious , and she is smart and she is used to LEARNING FAST and RESPONDING FAST
but not enough... bc this new level of literal crime to the point of killing someone is all new to her and she is overwhelmed.
BUT if she doesnt learn to hold it, she WILL get killed.
she has been caught too many times so far.
SO I AM GONNA DROP THIS DRAMA IF ONLY JAE MI LIVES BC HONESTLY SHE IS STUPIDLY BORING CHARACTER. THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING INTERESTING THAT HAPPENED WITH HER. All her dialogue and actions are just one stupidity after another. It is waste of time to watch her.
Seo Rim is the star of the show. ANd yeah. that Chef was disappointed when she didnt beg him to stay and just left He learned to play games with her and it didnt work. Now he misses her. Stupid moron. It is time to break open that ice wall of his
HOWEVER, in this drama I saw him doing some pretty heavy and amazing acting, showing vulnerability and emotion, so yeah. I gained respect for his acting.
I am not a huge fan of Lee Joon Gi acting. I think he was great for Flower of Evil and in King and Clown, actually the clown role imo was his best role and I remember him most from that. Then what... ? As if he tried to cover up any suspicion of gayness by picking only tough he-man roles. But there isnt much acting there. Complex roles like the clown are a lot more interesting. His role in Scarlet Heart was too cheesy and annoying bc it was just so overboard he-man flat one dimensional.
I am not watching news bc it would be depressing. He is gonna kill whatever is left of environment, clear air, clean water, etc.
I am not going back until he leaves and that might never happen, remember him saying once he gets in, he isnt leaving.
So I am one of the numerous victims of stealing homes in rhe USA, there is an epidemic of it, esp stealing condos and town homes from elderly, single women, minorities. So I am writing loooong and nuuumerous complaints... What I saw in Courts in Hawaii is SCARY, I would NOT recommend anyone to buy any property there, or even visit, there is no law. Anything goes. They just write up something fake, sue you, charge you huge amounts of money, judge grants all of that and nobody cares. FORECLOSURE JUDGES IN HAWAII ARE out there to steal and they use low circuit judges - since foreclosure judge is also Deputy Chief and Administrative Judge of 1st Circuit Court - and then appellate judges are ... wow corrupt the one who presided over my appeal worked with the opposing party attorneys for 30 years!!!! and they put him on my case!!!!! he granted them anything and didnt care for all their violations....
So ... A group of attorneys and JUDGES is stealing property under pretense of law.
I AM WATCHING THE JUDGE RETURNS his old life IN REAL LIFE
The situation is like in Made in Korea.
The drug ppl need to launder their money, they buy property and do construction - bc you can pay huge amounts with cash. And politicians fund themselves with that.
Wow the low level of ppl who believe that doing that kind of stuff will make life better. I will never ever forget one very dark-skinned i think Jamaican or something like that, middle aged woman, who leaned to me in a major city and said in hushed tones how she cannot stand all these immigrants coming in. I was like hey ya trying to be white rich and powerful??? Ppl wanted to get a taste of that. And it looks in real life like you described. Very disgustingly pitiful.
One thing that I can see happening bc of my property is that THERE IS NO LAW ANYMORE IN THE USA. Now is the time of everyone who is in can grab as much as possible. That is like ... 1800s The USA is totally out of time and out if 21st century
Smart move to make this drama. It is a testimony to all ordinary ppl. Bravo.
And interestingly, this drama was the most "feminist" ever... as the male leads had to leave their female partners to solve their problems on their own. They helped when needed and also left space when needed. It was great relationship examples. The lesson to Ha Neuyl was powerful... And the lesson of tough love to the woman, no coddling..
I was surprised that FL just packed up and went back to Seoul. Wtf.... ???? So I am glad he didnt chase her and SHE had to decide to seek him out and say yes.
And I like this "hot mama" image, as the middle aged couple at the end showed a lot of hot blood running.
Overall, lots of very positive and forward images...
and I do hope they settled in countryside, why would he leave his company and his house... ?