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Sorry I’m late lol you may have already watched by now but not necessarily sad just not cookie cutter happily ever after. It’s worth the watch 🥹

Honey, minors in the eyes of the law quite literally do not have the “right” to have a sexual relationship with an adult…is everything okay?
That’s called statutory rape.

With that being said it is good to have representation in the media because other people in the same position probably don’t feel taken advantage of either. And that’s fine, everything wrong does not always come with a deep routed trauma. But! It is on the adult to know what they’re doing is wrong and to not even begin something like that.

Also that’s a blatant lie that it was akiras idea. Maybe rewatch the show but Akira was crying about being shunned for liking boys and asked his adult male teacher what he does to distance himself from the pain and then kanada says he’ll show him but he has to keep it a secret….what part of that was akiras idea?

I really think you should rewatch with open eyes because…if he didn’t intend to sleep with a minor then he just wouldn’t have slept with a minor?

There quite literally was a lot…are you serious? That was one of the main issues because (if I’m remembering correctly) the team wanted more romance from Jeff barcode and Jeff was uncomfortable. I’m not one to overlook weird ass age gaps which is why I didn’t even sincerely watch 4minutes. I understand that Thailand age of consent is lower but I just can’t. But playing devils advocate maybe that’s why a lot of Thai fans shipped jeffbarcode considering barcode was technically of legal age? Idk. Not my cup of tea either. I like Kinnporsche for mileapo and biblebuild. I was actually very happy when barcode got a partner his age because I wasn’t going to watch any Jeff barcode content.

Tbh, I’m not here to support or justify Kinnporsche, it’s been a while since I watched it and I don’t want anything I say being untrue based off that. Also I don’t support Jeff barcode because of there obvious age gap but I’m not talking about the actors I was solely talking about Kim and chay which in the novel are much closer in age but in the series ages are not stated therefor I used a range and it’s so interesting that you chose the largest age difference to say that I was lying when I said between 13-15 and between 20-22
I’m using my context clues. If Akira was currently 16 and the incident with his friend happened 2 years ago then quick math says around 14. Same with kanada, if akiras brother is currently POSSIBLY 23 (because Akira never said he was exactly 23) and kanada and hikaru are same age friends then again quick math says 21. I however added a year in both directions to account for any error. So they could’ve been 13 and 21, 14 and 22, 15 and 20
Either tf way it goes it’s illegal!
Saying a sexual relationship between a minor who is in a vulnerable position and a fully cognizant adult is exactly the problem here. That should not be normalized or romanticized by saying they were each others life line. Even kanada said himself “who’s helping who” when Akira was pushing him away. Kanada himself recognized the grossness of what he was doing when he said “Hikarus going to kill me” like hello???
It seems you’re being intentionally dense about the logistics of this side relationship because you enjoyed it and want to fight for it but luckily enough! It’s not real! It’s supposed to appeal to viewers that’s like the whole point but if you take the fiction out and look at real life I would hope and pray that you wouldn’t fight tooth and nail for a predatory sexual relationship between a middle schooler and a high school/college student.
Also
I didn’t say it shouldn’t be shown in media because everyone deserves representation however because it is fiction the team involved have full control over what message is deliberately expressed. Even just a conversation explaining why the relationship was wrong could do someone else in the same situation some justice.
Also your whole “I’d rather date a grown adult bs and asshole my age” is really sad because at the end of the day you have a choice and maybe if those are your options just don’t date.
Anyway, you’re the one that brought up Kinnporsche, Kim and chay aren’t even the main story and the few scenes they did get, a sexual relationship was not portrayed. Maybe try a different example? There are actually some to chose from with same if not worse grooming as this series.

I liked the show, and as much as I hate it, that grooming aspect, especially in same sex situations, is often glossed over just like in this series. Although no one may feel hurt or wronged, there’s a lot more physiological damage possibly done than meets the eye. That being said, the main leads were likeable to watch. Akiras character made sense with the bullying and grooming, it’s hard to find self worth sometimes but I think kanata was patient and slightly aggressive enough to awaken something in Akira. Glad it’s over though.

Are you justifying a 20-22 year old sleeping with a 13-15 year old?
Thats predatory and gross.
I’m not sure you watched the same show but the exact definition of grooming you provided was shown in black and white through the series.

Akira was vulnerable and quite literally crying asking for help from a family friend and tutor AND ADULT (position of power) and that adults solution was to sleep with a minor and tell him to “keep it a secret”
He then manipulated Akira telling him he would hurt his crushes feelings and ruin two relationships if he were to tell the truth about their “relationship”
Saying “you don’t have to be that honest”

Also in Kinnporsche it was stated (in the show at least) that Kim did not have a romantic relationship with chay BECAUSE of the age gap. He used chay for information and then felt guilty later because they dragged chay into the mafia stuff which put him in danger. but either way the “relationship” between a middle schooler and a grown ass man is never okay, consensual, or romantic.

The term pedophile is used loosely, I will agree but it is easy to understand that people are saying an adult/MINOR relationship, no matter the age, is wrong.

Right? I’m still a bit confused with the timeline because in one scene thup says it’s only been a few hours and the doctor was already pronouncing him brain dead but darins bruises are gone when they’re talking so maybe it had been a while? I really don’t know but to stand there with your partner who went through the same thing but isn’t lying in a coma talking about “eh sorry yours ain’t built like mine” is CRAZY

😂 I thought maybe the eye changing had something to do with his powers like the lighter it is the more danger or closer to ghosts he was because I noticed sometimes it was normal then others it was almost glowing? But maybe they just…couldn’t stick with one pair 😭😭😭

Lmfao I was screaming “how long does it take to get a crowbar” omg

I really love this show but I feel like a lot of bl’s with less than favorable endings always get lower ratings
:(

I liked the series honestly but I really thought Chet would get a good guy arc since we got the flashback of Chet and pheem wanting to be brothers but forced to be rivals. I hated he couldn’t be better and live a somewhat happy ending with park but I think to clean the story up considering Chet was a drug dealer and murderer who most likely would’ve gotten jail time they just offed him.

What I got was that pheem didn’t know for sure if he would make it (what if they shot him in the head or drowned him) so to spare than at least a bit of comfort in not seeing him die as well as trying to keep him out of harms way he deviced a plan that whether he lived or died than could continue his life.

I think (and this is just my opinion) that he got super into the punk scene and his love lowkey turned to obsession. He wants to further hi knowledge to support this obsession and became a model just for the funds. If I recall correctly he had no pure intention when becoming a model and was actually scouted after going broke buying so many clothes. Even though he’s clumsy he wants to be able to make pieces that aren’t available and will perfectly match his look. Such as an artist taking lessons even in styles they don’t intend to do like a portraitist taking scenery classes because it’ll enhance their overall ability. So I don’t think he knew he would actually end up working the same competition his school was attending until he was already enrolled in the classes. That’s just my take.

I really hope the last ep isn’t rushed either but it’s looking like it will be.

Thank you so much because I was genuinely confused

This was a silly retort. Physical attraction has a significant role to play in love like…you quite literally just contradicted yourself

And the trying to sound philosophical isn’t a great look when you’re unable to understand your own simile :/

And lucky for everyone we’re all allowed an opinion.

I think you’re missing a huge point in the story being that the grandfather and ye hai yuan have fallen in love through three different reincarnations. First the boy second his wife and third hai yuan now. He was 100% in love with him but fighting his feelings out of guilt that he was much older as well as in his grandsons body.
Also children are people…weird to insulate otherwise.

That’s the thing though, there is no difference.
I understand that we see him as an old man because his body was able to physically age unlike the mythical creatures but they don’t just magically stop aging at 17 mentally. A good example is midnight sun (twilight in Edward’s point of view) although his body does not age his mind does. He is able to mentally age to 117 and that’s also represented in century of love where San is over 100 and he acts like it however of course his body does not age with him. My whole point is that the only reason people don’t have the same reaction to a mythical creature as they have to this grandpa is they aren’t seeing the physical aging. If you have two people both being 200 but one physically aged while the other didn’t and they fall in love with a 17 year old people are going to defend to one that still looks hot and young even though both 200 year olds are in the same boat. It’s all about aesthetic. Honestly if the show never showed the grandpa I think people would’ve been able to digest it better like they do in other shows where the aging is never shown. Everyone’s opinion is valid though and I appreciate the no hate lol.

Also in Minatos laundry mat he’s 30 while the love interest is a minor. As well as dear to me where the love interests are 25 and 17…which you rated high :|

…so it’s okay to be 1000, 300, 100 but being 69 is unacceptable? Weird. It’s almost like the only thing that makes it acceptable is that the “magical non aging creatures” just LOOK young and attractive.
And he never wanted to “live happily ever after” in his grandsons body. His grandson made the choice for him and forced him back because he felt he deserved to live more.
It’s odd that you watched the show and took it that way.