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On Honour 9 days ago
Title Honour Spoiler
Well, when I started watching this drama I thought it would be worthy of a 8-9 rating cause I love dramas focused on smart an hardworking women fighting for other women safety and freedom type of plots, but after I finished it I only gave it a 5/rating.

Only reason I didn't give it a lower rating is because it had some good aspects to it.

To cut it short the things I hated:
1. Majority of the female leads are lowkey awfull, only one I liked was Shin Jae. She was smart, rational/logical, had strong and bold personality, and basically saved and covered up for the other two whenever they made huge mess a lot. Without her Ra Young and Hyun Jin would suffer with their cases. She also was their wallet, paying up for everything. She also had best fashion tatse and I love her visuals.

Now about the other two, first Ra Young. I get she was traumatized from her awful ex but still I hated how she would always tell the victims that she would protect and help them, then she ends up getting protected and helped by her friends and others including the victims themselves all the time. She was a constant damsel in distress which went against the image she gave to herself. She couldn't even protect her own daughter even though she pretend to abandon her to protect her. She was lowkey pathetic instead of inspiring. I'm not trying to understimate her trauma, but still...

Hyun Jin was just a piece of sh*t! She is in her early 40s yet act like a reckless, brainless teenager. She always act overly emotional and commit horrible mistakes then cry about it and try to hide said mistakes as if she did nothing. When she gets caught, she is like "What happend happend" and expects sympathy. I don't care what anyone says she is a horrible person.

And she is supposed to know the law well yet do lots of things that don't match with her experience and job. Like when she took the reporter's phone then called for emergancy which made her husband finds out about what she did. She could also be framed for the killer due to how she dealt with the whole thing.

2. How come that in many supposed fiminist Kdramas, one of main FL characters ends up cheating on her husband or boyfriend then the plot tries to play it off as a minor mistake and is brushed off. Is that what fiminism about to them? Being a wh*re? Being a cheater? Being a violent man hater who enjoy physically and verbally assaulting all men around (The violence part isn't included in Honour, but I saw it on other dramas as well as anime).

I know some will say that the writer wanted to add a moral dilemma, they wanted to make some of the characters flawed...etc but that's a non logical excuse. Hyun Jin was already flawed enough with her childish, selfish (To her husband), and annoying personality. She didn't need more flaws and being a cheater just straight up made her an unlikeable and disgusting character when we were supposed to root for her. She isn't a villain, she should be one of the heroes, but she ends up turning her husband into a victim just like the victims she tried so hard to protect by treating him like a fool, constantly lying to him, as well as breaking his heart, trust, and dignity.

To make it worse they made the husband a massive green flag which made forgiving and understanding her even more impossible. The fact that she got pregnant by her ex which shows she didn't care about using protection makes her even more immature. That she tried to make her husband believe it's his kid, which shows how cruel and gross she is. That her husband found out about it and instead of strangling her to death, he decided to stay with her, forgive her, raise the cursed child born by his cheating wife and her trash ex, insisted to stay with her even when she asked for divorce, risked his life for her friends who also supported her by trying to hide all the unforgivable things she did to him.

All that crap pissed me off so much. The ploy basically told the watchers that cheating is not a big deal, especially if you're a woman. Your husband if he indeed love you and is a good man should just forgive you and support you regaldless. If it was the husband cheating and getting another woman pregnant, no one would support him and his wife would divorce him immediately after setting his car in fire or something.

If she loved her ex that bad, she should have stayed with him and not get married to another man. It literally took her, her husband almost dying for her to discover her love for him which makes it clear she never truly cared about him at all.

Also I love they tried to make Hyun Jin ex seem like some sort of tragic hero cause he tried to help that minor girl. Yes, he did try save the victims and died because of it, but if he was truly a decent man he wouldn't sleep with a married woman no matter how much he loves her. They aren't horny dumb teens, they 40+ years old for f*cks sake!

3. Plot holes, like how Tae Joo was introduced as this intelligent, logical, charming, justice loving guy who truly wants to destroy the rotten system, then in last episodes he goes full on psychopath mode out of the blue. It felt cartoonish at some point. I actually liked his relationship with Shin Jae, they fit each other perfectly, and his logic seemed valid in a way, that smart city system thing he created sounded cool too. But then they ruined his personality completely. I mean yes, he created connect in and lead to many people getting exploited, but they still could handled him being a villain in a better way, him all of a sudden trying to murder eveyone who isn't worthy of dying, was wack. If he doesn't mind killing people then why didn't he kill all bad rich people instead or something, them getting locked im prison (And obviously getting vip treatment there), or getting fired is barley considered a punishment. From episode 3 and forward, the episodes kept getting worse amd worse writing wise.
I meam even Mr. Kwon just kept walking around freely bitching to Shin Jae and eveyone as if he did nothing wrong, Shin Jae mother was another psycho and highly toxic mother yet they tried to make her seem like a misunderstood person by making Shin Jae basically forgive her and even decide to take over Haeil in the end cause "it's her responsibility" somehow! Like really?!

Sang A, that kid. She knew her father was abusive and made her mother suffer, yet she took his side up until the last episodes after she found out about his crimes. I know she is a kid...blah blah but guess what? I also had an abusive father who also hit my mother, he never hurt me personally just like Sang A's father, and they got divoreced back when I was 8 years old and not even once have I supported him or desired them to stay married and pretend to be happy for my sake although I was way younger than Sang A. I knew he was a scumbag and needed to go. It's very hard to literally hate nearly all characters in a drama like this which shows how bad written the plot is. There is a difference between being a flawed character and a total trash.

Having a bad temper, sharp tongue, being clumsy, bad at studying, timid, spoiled, grumpy...etc are flaws. Being a criminal, cheater, abuser, over the top pervert, selfish brick, supporter of bad people...etc makes you unworthy of living.

Anyway only likeable characters till the end were Shin Jae, Hyun Jin's husband, The hacker young man that helped the FLs, Han Seo Min and other connect in young victims.

4. Not that big of an issue, but it still irks me, is how most of the actresses and some actors have botox or something and thanks to it their faces are stuck. They barley can show emotions and expressions. That include Shin Jae's mom, Ra Young and Hyun Jin also felt frozen at times, even Mr. Kwon. I don't know they just felt off. Yes, she showed some tears and anger through their eyes but the rest of their faces were kinda paralyzed. As actors they must be able to show expressions properly, this is why I hate this whole botox amd other similar garabge obsession.

5. There were barley court scenes even though the FLs are all lawyers which is odd. They acted more like detectives/cops than lawyers.

Now good parts:
1. They included a male victim among victims to show that men also get sexually assaulted and exploited.

2. The ending which some seems to hate, it was realistic unlike majority of the plot. Of course there will always be perverted paychos everywhere and this whole s*x crimes issue will never completely disappear from the world, but there must be people who are ready to fight against it and help the victims.

3. Glad Han Seo Min didn't immediately forgive her mother and act all close. Like I would be pissed if she just forgave her mother easily after all the crap she had to go through thanks to both of her parents. I also like that she went to prison in the end willingly for killing that b*tch instead of trying to escape which makes her more responsible than her parents and Hyun Jin.
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Replying to dramanest_ 9 days ago
Title Honour
Why do they feel the need to constantly center women's empowerment around infidelity? It's honestly so insulting.
Exactly my issue with the plot of multiple "fiminist" dramas...one of the main FL character must be a cheaters and it always ends up happily with her not really paying a real price.
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Replying to moon pie 13 days ago
I’m laughing so hard, this was fun to read 😭😭
Thank you and sorry for late reply 😊 I didn't login MDL since long, considering that my comment is basically as long as a novel, glad that you read it all and liked it šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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Replying to bunny94 Mar 23, 2026
where can i find it to watch it, i cant find it anywhere
Watch it on Bilibili.tv
I found all episodes there with English subs and I watched the whole for free today. Just search From Now On We Begin Ethics Jdrama ep 1 Bilibili on google and you will find it.
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Replying to kokokolo Mar 17, 2026
i was intrigued by your comment so i wanted to put my two cents in. this is at least what i gathered after just…
Yeah, that makes sense in a way. Thanks for helping me understand the plot more, I really wish they wrote it in a better way because I was really interested during first episodes but then it went downhall, I hate when dramas do that šŸ˜‚
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Replying to kokokolo Mar 2, 2026
Title The Art of Sarah Spoiler
i was intrigued by your comment so i wanted to put my two cents in. this is at least what i gathered after just…
No, I actually understood everything you said and I appreciate your reply.
Only thing that bothers me is the fact that no one including the government can know her identity at all is what makes it seem as if she is supposed to be a genuis of some sort.

Like if she is just an averge born poor woman how could she do all that. Even with her good understandimg of people. Idk overall the plot felt shakey as hell to me.

I do get your point of view and I agree in a way, but I still think the plot could have been better written. It started strong then ended up weak.

Again thank you for explaining, it actually helped 😊
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Replying to Sakuragir Mar 2, 2026
Title Idol I
I absolutely did not like the drama, first of all, the characters, not one of the characters is close to me, their…
Agree!
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On Idol I Mar 2, 2026
Title Idol I
I know many might disagree with me but this drama was boring as hell. It's literally a basic cringe Y/N fanfic written by a delulu teen turned into a drama and that's it. The plot and chemistry between the leads are all meh...

Even the FL's behavior feeled like a preteen's, not the vibe of an adult successful lawyer. The writer tried hard to make her innocent and likeable, but the way she viewed the ML felt childlike. That wouldn't be an issue if the lead characters were high schoolers instead of two adults in their late 20s to 30s. The episodes were also utterly slow.
Both the romance and law/crime aspects were barley dived into which lead the plot overall to become shallow as hell.

Also they criticize the toxic obsessive fan culture yet the FL is a hardcore fan of the ML who magically ends up being his lover in the end...yes, I know she isn't a toxic fan, but it still defies the point the drama is supposed to convey. Because it instead feeds more into the delusions of fans who hope to meet and marry their favorite idols somehow. I'm a kpop fan myself, but come on šŸ˜‚

Only good thing about the drama is that they showed some of the toxic shit idols go through, if it wasn't for this, and watchers who like fanfics, I'm sure the drama would have a much lower rating.
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Replying to NineSen Mar 2, 2026
Title Idol I
That was boring. Usually I like mix of romance and triller but I fell I didn't get any of this here
Glad someone else agrees with me, I was dying of boredom the whole time. Felt like your typical Y/N fanfic crap.
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On The Art of Sarah Mar 2, 2026
Title The Art of Sarah Spoiler
Honestly first episode was great, I have been struggling lately to get interested in watching dramas as well as anime without dying of boredom, but this drama managed to make me sit and watch it with full focus at start, I liked that it wasn't focused on the typical overused romance crap and was revolved around a woman instead of a man who had to deal with poverty...etc
Everything seemed great and the actress did a flawless acting, but the more I watched the more I started to lose interest and feel that something is off with the plot.

1. The fact that Sarah is supposed to be so highly intelligent that she manages to fool everyone and do all this business on her own...they tried so hard to make her come off as genius but she didn't feel like that at all. No matter what, she still needed lots of help and backup to become that massive, yet she con eveyone and they just sit and watch?!

These high profile people, especially that old annoying woman could easily get rid of her and she would disappear from the face of earth, especially when she doesn't has an actual identity to begin with.
People get killed, even well known celebrities for less than this by powerful rich assholes, but Sarah is just walking around happily and they all either watch or even when they try to harm her, she still manages to escape easily...

2. The corpse in the lake, how come the police didn't give two fucks about that poor man? Who the hell is he? They just care about the woman's corpse amd catching Sarah, but fuck everyone else?! Did the skeleton exist just so the police go to that male host?! The detective guy was so obsessed with her that he disregarded everything else and ended up coming as a total fool in the end, although they made him seem smart and experienced at start.

Also the fact that the male host seemed like a coward, but was still willing to kill someone and a wealthy man with connections on top of it for a woman he barley knew shit about was just...is she really that charming that he was willing to ruin his whole life for her?!

3. The tissue thing, like they really couldn't just check her body and if she lacks a kidney then obviously she is Sarah. Then the tissue dissappears magically (I assume by help of the old man), and she is saved again.

4. The damn ugly purple bag, did she really need to throw it along with the corpse? Also couldn't she take off the dress the faker was wearing as well as get rid of the corpse's skin that has the similar tattoo on it? If she did these things the police wouldn't have reached her or knew about Sarah's existence to begin with. The corpse would be labeled as a total nobody and that's it and it would end up as a cold case.

Couldn't she get rid of the corpse in a better way? Since she is such a genius that nobody can do shit to her how did she end making all these retarded mistakes that lead the police to her?!
I know all this was for the sake of the plot of the drama, since if she didn't get caught the drama wouldn't exist, but the plotholes are so stupid for my liking.

5. The wack ending of her actually letting them jail her, taking that dumb fake Sarah identity to save the brand, the fact that we still don't know who the hell she is and how she lived her whole life without having any info about her in the government systems. The writer really tried hard to make her like the villain character Johan from Monster anime. Extremely smart, mysterious, and untouchable, but she didn't give that vibe at all.

If her goal was to build a luxury brand and be rich, then she could easily do that with the help of her fake old husband, he actually loved her and would let her do what she want, she could build a proper real business with him instead of her just gaining enemies left and right. It just felt as if she just wanted to revenge on eveyone and everything, including people who actually cared for her, be it the old man, that lonely beauty brand CEO woman, or the host guy and so she just came off like a total spiteful brat which goes against that tragic elegant aura the writer tried hard to give her. I didn't sympathy with her at all, and I did get the overall message behind the drama but it was still done poorly.

Still it was a decent watch I guess, but isn't worthy of more than 7/10 max if the watcher is feeling generous.
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On A Virtuous Business Feb 8, 2026
Title A Virtuous Business Spoiler
I loved this drama but four things annoyed me a lot:
1. The fact that the FL's didn't expose her friend's cheating wife and how she got pregnant from the FL's husband not him. His cheating disgusting wife did such an awful thing yet got away with it easily and her husband will spend the rest of his life being fooled and raise another man child wothout his knowledge. I'm sorry but there is no way in hell I would let a friend go through that and keep silent if I were in FL's shoes.

2. The drama overly focused on FL even though all four women are supposed to be main characters. To make it worse she was the least interesting one among the four and lowkey annoying half of the time. Also her story was overly dramatic, a deadbeat cheating husband, her being mistreated by town people, her mother being a bitch to her for some time, her almost getting raped...etc
It was a bit too much drama to get us to sympathy with her.

3. The whole cold case of kidnapped kids...did they really need to add that? They wasted lots of screen time on it and I couldn't give two fucks about it honestly. The ML could reunite with his mother without all that thriller crap. Also the romance between him and the FL felt a bit forced at times, I mean even after 4 years of dating they act like close co-workers or friends instead of lovers.

4. Second half wasn't as good as first half and ending wasn't done well, they rushed it.

Apart from that this drama is worthy of no less than a 8/10 rating still.
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Replying to Loa Jan 26, 2026
honestly I think 15 years on that damn island is too much. they could make it like 5. but 15 I sabin exaggerated
Exactly! And the FL looks all clean, has perfect skin and hair, she is doing pretty well mentaly...etc after 15 whole years in the middle of nowhere, it was just absurd! If went through what she did I would need at least 3 years of therapy and heavy skin care to finally start acting and looking like a normal human being šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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On Peach Trap Jan 25, 2026
Title Peach Trap
Seriously I hate this type of plot in which everyone are obsessed with same person who isn't even worth it! Just like in harem and reverse harem animes in which the protaginst is extermely unlikable while almost everyone who chases them is highly likeable yet they fall for trash protaginst for an unknown reason.

Why is Doha so liked? Why is he same age as me yet act like a preteen?! Okay I can get over him being a virgin, I'm also a virgin myself, but that doesn't excuse his stupidity and how unreliable he can be.

I don't like these toddler like adult MCs and don't understand why Asians are so into them. Give me major pedo vibes. Any adult who act that childish needs a serious therapy and lecture.
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Replying to Lee Evanie Jan 18, 2026
Glad I'm not the only one who feels that. He just feels empty, like he isn't a bad actor, but it doesn't seem…
Yeah, okay. I didn't watch one week friend, but I did watch your lie in April. Was decent I guess, but not mind blowing.
I'm not hating on him, I just don't consider him as one of my favorite actors when it comes to romance plots.

Every person excels at something, and also can have weaknesses, doesn't make him a bad actor necessarily. I know in some of his roles he plays roles of toxic and awful boyfriends, but that's not why I dislike his acting in these roles.

Even bad /evil characters can be liked (Even more than ML, like the Joker for example) but because the actors make them that charismatic.
He lacks chemistry with FLs that's my issue, it's supposed to be romantic but it feels hollow. Same goes for Song Kang, he is great at Melodramas and thrillers, but isn't good at romance due to severe lack of chemistry and ability to properly convey his love for FLs.

I still love both of them, and they are both very handsome and got good personalities irl.
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Replying to bean317 Jan 18, 2026
Title My Demon
Kim You Jung and Song Kang look so much alike, they can play siblings. I watched four episodes and so far Lee…
I agree! I would've prefered of they played siblings instead of lovers!
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Replying to My Demon Jan 18, 2026
Title My Demon
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I wouldn't go as far as stain, but it's her worst drama I guess. She did well playing the role, it's just that the plot was so painfully weak and cringe. Song Kang also isn't that great at romance roles, he does great in Melodramas and thrillers, but when it comes to romance I never feel real chemistry between him and the FLs. Him and You Jung looked great together visually, but they had zero chemistry...
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Replying to rita Jan 18, 2026
Title My Demon
I think I skipped like 7 episodes and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. It got so boring like So many…
I totally understand. I also just wanted to know the ending and that's it, couldn't care less about the details. That's how bad the plot was šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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Replying to Lee Evanie Jan 17, 2026
Glad I'm not the only one who feels that. He just feels empty, like he isn't a bad actor, but it doesn't seem…
Sure, that's your opinion and nothing is wrong with it, but for me personally I would rather not watch his romance roles anymore. I would always check out his dramas of other genres though.
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Replying to Lee Evanie Jan 15, 2026
Glad I'm not the only one who feels that. He just feels empty, like he isn't a bad actor, but it doesn't seem…
Arisu and L Lawliet are the only roles I like of him actually, he does well im thriller/crime plots,but when it comes to plots that are heavily focused on romance, he isn't that great at.
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