The “victim blaming” is complicated often by the fact that some people can only consider one circumstance at a time, not two. The first being that the culprit is to blame, but the second being that e.g. if due to criminal negligence someone has forgot to close or even has intentionally left doors to a elevator shaft open, you still supposed to have agency and reason to not go there, unless you are a toddler or something.
I would rather call it gay themed general drama, so it can raise subjects that are way too serious (e.g. domestic abuse and the Stockholm syndrome that makes people stick to their beloved serial criminals) for the fluffy, silly and cute BL genre.
Sadly, the storytelling uses a number of soap opera tools that make it longer than necessary. Viewers have to be prepared to watch characters in “can't see the forest for the trees” state, spending dozens of hours of the screen time to learn things that were one question away in the first place.
That said, if you like the mood of the series and be able suspend disbelief not only in the magic setting but also in some other aspects, you would not mind the slow pace and enjoy the submerging into the world the authors create. Especially if you like the actors, so seeing them act would already more than enough.
Your review represents this feeling very well, thanks.
I just want to complement the job Job has done with his dramatic characters like Nut in the Miracle of Teddy Bear series, where he was fully committed to portray a deeply disturbing and violent criminal. Lots of people like this exist in real life, and their stories need to be told, too.
People are not all about ponies and rainbows, and yet they both love and get loved, however detrimental it is for their partners. This is a great lesson for viewers to be careful and warned.
The way the lad was playing is a hundred percent believable: you see a dangerous psycho.
Too bad it was such a repulsive, horrible criminal character to play, but he did it convincingly, a great job…
There is nothing more complex in this character than in the character of — let’s take an extreme example for the sake of clarity of the point — Hitler who has loved the German people (in a twisted way, though), his family and dogs dearly, and was a pretty decent painter.
The main thing about those characters is that they are fundamentally criminal in their nature, it is just how their psyche works. Their other quirks and characteristics are completely superfluous to their dangerous being.
I think you have some issues handling good actors like Job playing criminal characters like Nut, and doing it great with nuance that make them three-dimensional but not diminishing the fact of how horrible they are.
You might want to watch The Godfather film for more cases like this. There, actor Brando plays a criminal, even though it is not a caricature, so it is done well. This is not a “reductive” description, either; this is what the character was.
Finally, what it is the point of going to actors’ pages to round and soften realistic characters they play? It devalues, cheapens their work which was good specifically because how committed they are to portraying some of the most repulsive human behaviours.
What do you mean by Mame? One person writes all the scripts for years? Why? There is a monopoly?
Thanks. I did not know that she (co-)owns the company itself so she is unavoidable. I liked the lad’s first series Love In The Air very much (even though it has its series faults), but newer series are too focused on the type casting then that might be going overboard.
Too bad it was such a repulsive, horrible criminal character to play, but he did it convincingly, a great job…
Well, the character has repeatedly assaulted and kidnapped a person in the series, which results in many years of jail time. The character’s abusive nature could only ever result in more home abuse and violence and years in jail, so no person should be ever close to a character like this. However, this character is absolutely real, there are many people exactly like this, and lots of tragically unhappy people are in love with them still, sometimes leading to their demise.
LOVED him as Nut. I wish he had taken he had taken more bl roles after TMOTB
Too bad it was such a repulsive, horrible criminal character to play, but he did it convincingly, a great job (pun intended): such people do exist in real life.
But this also explains why he has took the role: that series was not a BL, but a regular drama that had core gay theme. It is a different genre and a different set of actors who play in those projects, they are general roster actors, not BL ones. Hence, no regular BL series.
The same has happens with actors from other gay (not BL) series e.g. Golden Picture (Rup Thong, 2018).
Was it real, though?Now they feed a couple of photos of actors and write a prompt for a neural network to generate…
In terms of writing I have not seen anything really good yet. Neural networks generate nonsense that looks sensible only on the surface level.
That said, as an avid watcher of media I have to say that most of scenarios there make no sense, either, even though they are written without any neural networks.
The issue is that most scenarists are not capable of writing meticulously coherent and logical scenarios, so random stupidity is happening.
Though, to be fair, lots of is not scenarists’ but producers’ fault because they often come and say “look, it all is great, but rewrite this part and adjust that part”, so even if the scenarist had written a fully sensible story it all falls apart because scenarists and even directors are not the bosses in any project, only producers are.
So if you want to work in this field your way is to find a producer and director who would respect your scripts or you might want to also take a role of producer yourself to be able to guarantee coherent implementation of your ideas.
Especial with neural networks coming, which make thing worse in many cases. The only exception could be “script doctor” “assistants” that could help to streamline and connect beaten to death script pieces and even find contradictions and things that make no sense, though for now it is not there because logical “thinking” is not what neural networks can do even if they are merged with algorithmic logic as in some “deep” “thinking” “pro” versions of neural networks.
Was it real, though?Now they feed a couple of photos of actors and write a prompt for a neural network to generate…
Jests aside, it depends on the neural network.
Open AI’s Sora 2 generative neural network often produces videos that are indistinguishable from reality to the naked eye. You watch it and can not believe that this is not real most of the time. Sora 2 was premiered by the end of September, so the production team could have used it technically.
But, of course, it is still way more likely real actors were used before they were already contracted by that point and the whole filming process was planned anyway.
What about future projects, though? The dystopian future of the “AI slop” making viewers depressed as they would know that nearly everything is fake.
Rare expensive projects with real alive people will be cherished. “WOW, can you imagine actual people are in the picture and they are doing it for real? How cool is that!” But it would require some sort of certification and audit to diminish the amounts of fraud about this.
Specifically in the BL business it might be a hybrid because a major branch of it is paid fan events that require alive real humans to be on the stage (not some hologram). The question then would be which scenes in a series the actors have filmed for real and which one were generated. Maybe only the most high profile productions would proudly showcase “no AI footage” stamp.
You might want to watch the Golden Picture drama. It is called Rup Thong (2018) here in this database because…
Yes, low rating here does not mean it is actually worse than series with higher ratings. Lots of votes by people who do not like the characters and their behaviour, not the series. If not everything in the series is ponies and rainbows, then it is “toxic”. As another example, one of the all time must watch series Make It Right also has low rating for this reason (it is not a masterpiece and has faults, but this is not why it was downvoted).
Nothing to do with anything BL. Barely even a bromance, really. The tags are wrong for this database entry.
Sadly, the storytelling uses a number of soap opera tools that make it longer than necessary. Viewers have to be prepared to watch characters in “can't see
the forest for the trees” state, spending dozens of hours of the screen time to learn things that were one question away in the first place.
That said, if you like the mood of the series and be able suspend disbelief not only in the magic setting but also in some other aspects, you would not mind the slow pace and enjoy the submerging into the world the authors create. Especially if you like the actors, so seeing them act would already more than enough.
Your review represents this feeling very well, thanks.
People are not all about ponies and rainbows, and yet they both love and get loved, however detrimental it is for their partners. This is a great lesson for viewers to be careful and warned.
The way the lad was playing is a hundred percent believable: you see a dangerous psycho.
The main thing about those characters is that they are fundamentally criminal in their nature, it is just how their psyche works. Their other quirks and characteristics are completely superfluous to their dangerous being.
I think you have some issues handling good actors like Job playing criminal characters like Nut, and doing it great with nuance that make them three-dimensional but not diminishing the fact of how horrible they are.
You might want to watch The Godfather film for more cases like this. There, actor Brando plays a criminal, even though it is not a caricature, so it is done well. This is not a “reductive” description, either; this is what the character was.
Finally, what it is the point of going to actors’ pages to round and soften realistic characters they play? It devalues, cheapens their work which was good specifically because how committed they are to portraying some of the most repulsive human behaviours.
But this also explains why he has took the role: that series was not a BL, but a regular drama that had core gay theme. It is a different genre and a different set of actors who play in those projects, they are general roster actors, not BL ones. Hence, no regular BL series.
The same has happens with actors from other gay (not BL) series e.g. Golden Picture (Rup Thong, 2018).
Super adorable and huggable.
That said, as an avid watcher of media I have to say that most of scenarios there make no sense, either, even though they are written without any neural networks.
The issue is that most scenarists are not capable of writing meticulously coherent and logical scenarios, so random stupidity is happening.
Though, to be fair, lots of is not scenarists’ but producers’ fault because they often come and say “look, it all is great, but rewrite this part and adjust that part”, so even if the scenarist had written a fully sensible story it all falls apart because scenarists and even directors are not the bosses in any project, only producers are.
So if you want to work in this field your way is to find a producer and director who would respect your scripts or you might want to also take a role of producer yourself to be able to guarantee coherent implementation of your ideas.
Especial with neural networks coming, which make thing worse in many cases. The only exception could be “script doctor” “assistants” that could help to streamline and connect beaten to death script pieces and even find contradictions and things that make no sense, though for now it is not there because logical “thinking” is not what neural networks can do even if they are merged with algorithmic logic as in some “deep” “thinking” “pro” versions of neural networks.
Open AI’s Sora 2 generative neural network often produces videos that are indistinguishable from reality to the naked eye. You watch it and can not believe that this is not real most of the time. Sora 2 was premiered by the end of September, so the production team could have used it technically.
But, of course, it is still way more likely real actors were used before they were already contracted by that point and the whole filming process was planned anyway.
What about future projects, though? The dystopian future of the “AI slop” making viewers depressed as they would know that nearly everything is fake.
Rare expensive projects with real alive people will be cherished. “WOW, can you imagine actual people are in the picture and they are doing it for real? How cool is that!” But it would require some sort of certification and audit to diminish the amounts of fraud about this.
Specifically in the BL business it might be a hybrid because a major branch of it is paid fan events that require alive real humans to be on the stage (not some hologram). The question then would be which scenes in a series the actors have filmed for real and which one were generated. Maybe only the most high profile productions would proudly showcase “no AI footage” stamp.
Now they feed a couple of photos of actors and write a prompt for a neural network to generate a video they want.