That scene was way too long. Should have been much more concise, and it would have been more interesting. As it…
I thought it was just me :) I dislike the character so far and the actress is doing such a poor job with the role, she's making it even more dull. Like someone else said, could be the director (?), but I doubt it, as Wang He Run is pretty much the same in almost everything she stars in. Bland.
IMO, a different actress could have nailed the part by making Xin Mei more complex and, thus, more interesting, less shallow and bland, and less blank (she has an annoying habit of putting an expression on her face that makes her look mentally challenged at times -- seen it in ALL her dramas, and it's super annoying).
Instead, Wang He Run is obviously "acting" through almost every scene and, compared to Allen Ren's actual skills as he simply IS the character he's portraying, it's irritating.
Anyway, not going to spend my time dragging the actress :) I'm loving the drama, and just watching her scenes on 1.5 speed to get through them, and I rarely do that. But that's working for me :)
I agree but part of the blame is on the script writer for giving her such a long overwrought speech
It has nothing to do with the speech and everything to do with the way she presents almost every scene though. You can see the wheels churning in her head as she "decides" how to play a certain scene, as if she's thinking "Now how would a person behave if they felt like this?" compared to Allen Ren who just IS the character he plays.
It's the difference between a talented actor, and one who is going through the motions. I've seen it in most of her dramas (not as much in Mysterious Lotus Casebook, although she pretty much acts like an over-the-top caricature in that one, it does work to some extent).
She was one of the big reasons I recently dropped My Bargain Queen, which isn't particularly good, but her performance in that is so grating, and she is given WAY too much screentime.
We'll have to disagree on her performance in this one :) For me, though, I'll be avoiding her dramas from now on once I've finished this (which I'm loving, except for her) as I find her inauthentic performance so annoying, and I rarely do that. (Only have 1 other actress I won't watch anything she stars in after her even more terrible performance in one recent drama, and one actor).
Yeah agree ๐ I think ZKY would be a better choice for FL here although I do love her interactions with Riley…
Those are the scenes that are her worst. Over the top, completely disingenuous, with no authenticity in her performance at all. You could just see the thoughts going through her head "Now WHAT should I look like here?" and then acting that way, compared to Ren who just IS the character he plays.
Yeah agree ๐ I think ZKY would be a better choice for FL here although I do love her interactions with Riley…
Yep, I've been watching the entire drama from about Episode 4 onwards hoping her performance gets better, but I was over it at the end of Episode 19 with that vitally important scene and how she handled it compared to Allen Ren.
And I'm not a particular Allen Ren fan, can take him or leave him although I seem to have watched most of his older dramas at least :), but he is inarguably the better actor.
I always feel sorry for so many of the talented Chinese male actors (and sure, there are plenty of untalented ones), as they must be annoyed when they are stuck with an FL whose talent doesn't remotely match theirs as, it's obvious right from the beginning of shooting, they will be forced to carry most scenes.
And again, I'm not a particular Dilraba fan (don't mind her, can take her or leave her, although I can easily admit she is very talented :), but you have to admit when talented male actors get an FL like her, they must be thrilled that they can actually bring their A-game to the set and she will match it.
Yep. So many dramas too nowadays have elements of various genres. Far less rigid than they used to be. Personally, I don't really care what a drama is labelled, I just care if I enjoy it or not.
Ye Gods, Allen Ren is light years ahead of Wang He Run in acting ability. For one thing, he understands the concept of less is more.
Just watched the end of Episode 19, and while you could feel his agony at her words just by the quickly changing ever so slightly there and then gone emotions on his face , she was just going through the motions "acting" the way she thought she should be for that scene. Incredibly inauthentic. Such a shame she was cast in this role. She's just not up to it.
Drama still superb. About to watch her scenes on 1.5 speed.
EDIT: Would have loved to have seen Zhang Kai Ying in the lead role. She would have done something interesting with the role, IMO.
It's not entirely. It's actually mainly fantasy xianxia with some wuxia and xuan huan elements, so could be labelled as all three. I double checked, and iQIYI labels it "fantasy xianxia". -- https://www.iq.com/album/fate-chooses-you-2026-sqb5dpk0vt?lang=en_us -- They produced it, so I guess they know what it is :)
One of the best wuxia dramas I've seen in quite a while. Not a boring moment. Fast paced. Brilliantly acted, very well-written, some truly fascinating supporting characters, quite funny in parts, and Allen Ren is a phenomenal lead. Loving this so much.
EDIT: Still not a fan of the FL though. Actress or character. Wish a different actress had been cast with Ren. Would have been a more interesting pairing, as this one is just bland.
That scene was way too long. Should have been much more concise, and it would have been more interesting. As it…
Actually, I'll amend what I said -- I thought Wang He Run did a superb job in Mysterious Lotus Casebook and was hoping her character in this one would be more bitch like that and less bland like this. :) Guess I'll see which way she goes in later episodes :)
Ep.15: struggling to get through this medicine valley arc and FL's self-righteousness. It could have been done…
That scene was way too long. Should have been much more concise, and it would have been more interesting. As it was, like you said, she came off arrogant and preachy.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the FL or Wang He Run (wish a different actress had been cast as she is exactly the same in every drama she stars in -- the first few episodes made it look as if she would be different in this one but, nope, she's just the same. For me then, with a different, more complex actress, the role may have been more intriguing and the FL's scenes not as draggy).
Loving the drama, and most of the characters have been very well cast, IMO. Performances overall are excellent too. Just getting to a point (I'm on Ep 18) where, if the FL's character doesn't become more interesting, and WHR continues to be bland AF in her performance, I'll probably start watching her scenes at a faster speed. Don't generally do that, but currently finding her beyond dull.
A certain fandom or two intentionally mass down rate this drama without watching it, also some randoms but the…
What ARE you talking about? Tencent has been promoting Dilraba's dramas incessantly. Maybe stop believing gossip from disgruntled "netizens" or idiotic Dilraba fans for once. She and Arthur Chen were excellent in this drama, and Tencent knows that. Hence the promotions still going on even though the drama ended 2 weeks ago.
A certain fandom or two intentionally mass down rate this drama without watching it, also some randoms but the…
Not one Chinese production company cares much about what MDL ratings look like.
The main things that are important to them are how well a drama performs commercially IN CHINA (they don't care that much about the rest of the world, although that is changing) and, in second place and secondary but still important, what the Douban ratings say.
They also care how well it does on WeTV internationally, hence why they are putting massive financial resources into the platform this year.
Meanwhile, Love Beyond the Grave was a massive commercial hit in China. On Douban, it's only earning a 6.7, which means "average to poor", but I highly doubt the production company (Tecent) cares as much as they normally would about that rating when the drama was such a big hit commercially.
Can anyone explain me whatโs wrong with this MDL ratings. Why is it so low to such an amazing unique drama.…
MDL has a problem with a group of people who are "constantly offended" if a drama doesn't fit their narrow-minded views of how things should be.
In this case, the so-called "age gap" between the two leads "offends" them, which is a disgusting opinion as it's as if they are infantilizing the two main actors who are, according to them, apparently too stupid to choose their own dramas so need to be told their choice is "inappropriate".
To say I despise these people with a passion would be an understatement.
people really have different tastes. I saw many criticisms about this drama, especially about the main leads'…
Anyone who thinks Dilraba and Arthur have no chemistry are either blind or saying so because the age gap "offends" them (yep, we do still have a stable of "always offended/woke" viewers on MDL, sadly). The chemistry between the two is incredible.
Well honestly, I don't feel a connection with this drama. The only thing who saves this drama is Xiang Liu ๐
Been putting it off forever, as I am not a Yang Zi fan (she's one-dimensional in every drama she appears in, basically the same character). Watched the first two episodes of this and, yep, she's the same as always. So, no, not feeling a connection with this at all either. Will push through for a few more episodes, but a pity it isn't a better actress.
The cast is superb. The writing is atrocious, as the whole thing ended up being like the worst of afternoon soap operas. And there is zero chemistry between the two infuriatingly annoying leads. (Zhu Zhu and Wallace did their best with a terrible script). Glad to have finally dragged my way through the last 8 episodes of this mess, after initially dropping it at Ep 30. An idiotic ending too involving one of the most self-involved FLs in a while. Moving on to something far far better. 5.5/10 - and that's for the cast.
I love Wallace Chung and Zhu Zhu acting. My favourite and brilliant established actors they are. Their acting…
Why Is He Still Single? is one of the best more mature romance dramas to come out of China in a long time. The writing was superb, the leads were perfectly cast, had incredibly chemistry together, and the ensemble cast really brought the story to life beautifully, right down to the tiniest character (loved the girl in the convenience store! :).
Plus, only 16 episodes, so the plot wasn't dragged out so much you got sick of everyone in it :) Loved everything about it, including the sets, the design aesthetic, the locations they chose, the OST etc. It will be a definite rewatch for me at some point, and I can count on two hands the number of C-dramas I've rewatched in the last two decades.
IMO, a different actress could have nailed the part by making Xin Mei more complex and, thus, more interesting, less shallow and bland, and less blank (she has an annoying habit of putting an expression on her face that makes her look mentally challenged at times -- seen it in ALL her dramas, and it's super annoying).
Instead, Wang He Run is obviously "acting" through almost every scene and, compared to Allen Ren's actual skills as he simply IS the character he's portraying, it's irritating.
Anyway, not going to spend my time dragging the actress :) I'm loving the drama, and just watching her scenes on 1.5 speed to get through them, and I rarely do that. But that's working for me :)
It's the difference between a talented actor, and one who is going through the motions. I've seen it in most of her dramas (not as much in Mysterious Lotus Casebook, although she pretty much acts like an over-the-top caricature in that one, it does work to some extent).
She was one of the big reasons I recently dropped My Bargain Queen, which isn't particularly good, but her performance in that is so grating, and she is given WAY too much screentime.
We'll have to disagree on her performance in this one :) For me, though, I'll be avoiding her dramas from now on once I've finished this (which I'm loving, except for her) as I find her inauthentic performance so annoying, and I rarely do that. (Only have 1 other actress I won't watch anything she stars in after her even more terrible performance in one recent drama, and one actor).
And I'm not a particular Allen Ren fan, can take him or leave him although I seem to have watched most of his older dramas at least :), but he is inarguably the better actor.
I always feel sorry for so many of the talented Chinese male actors (and sure, there are plenty of untalented ones), as they must be annoyed when they are stuck with an FL whose talent doesn't remotely match theirs as, it's obvious right from the beginning of shooting, they will be forced to carry most scenes.
And again, I'm not a particular Dilraba fan (don't mind her, can take her or leave her, although I can easily admit she is very talented :), but you have to admit when talented male actors get an FL like her, they must be thrilled that they can actually bring their A-game to the set and she will match it.
what a drama is labelled, I just care if I enjoy it or not.
Just watched the end of Episode 19, and while you could feel his agony at her words just by the quickly changing ever so slightly there and then gone emotions on his face , she was just going through the motions "acting" the way she thought she should be for that scene. Incredibly inauthentic. Such a shame she was cast in this role. She's just not up to it.
Drama still superb. About to watch her scenes on 1.5 speed.
EDIT: Would have loved to have seen Zhang Kai Ying in the lead role. She would have done something interesting with the role, IMO.
One of the best wuxia dramas I've seen in quite a while. Not a boring moment. Fast paced. Brilliantly acted, very well-written, some truly fascinating supporting characters, quite funny in parts, and Allen Ren is a phenomenal lead. Loving this so much.
EDIT: Still not a fan of the FL though. Actress or character. Wish a different actress had been cast with Ren. Would have been a more interesting pairing, as this one is just bland.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the FL or Wang He Run (wish a different actress had been cast as she is exactly the same in every drama she stars in -- the first few episodes made it look as if she would be different in this one but, nope, she's just the same. For me then, with a different, more complex actress, the role may have been more intriguing and the FL's scenes not as draggy).
Loving the drama, and most of the characters have been very well cast, IMO. Performances overall are excellent too. Just getting to a point (I'm on Ep 18) where, if the FL's character doesn't become more interesting, and WHR continues to be bland AF in her performance, I'll probably start watching her scenes at a faster speed. Don't generally do that, but currently finding her beyond dull.
The main things that are important to them are how well a drama performs commercially IN CHINA (they don't care that much about the rest of the world, although that is changing) and, in second place and secondary but still important, what the Douban ratings say.
They also care how well it does on WeTV internationally, hence why they are putting massive financial resources into the platform this year.
Meanwhile, Love Beyond the Grave was a massive commercial hit in China. On Douban, it's only earning a 6.7, which means "average to poor", but I highly doubt the production company (Tecent) cares as much as they normally would about that rating when the drama was such a big hit commercially.
In this case, the so-called "age gap" between the two leads "offends" them, which is a disgusting opinion as it's as if they are infantilizing the two main actors who are, according to them, apparently too stupid to choose their own dramas so need to be told their choice is "inappropriate".
To say I despise these people with a passion would be an understatement.
Plus, only 16 episodes, so the plot wasn't dragged out so much you got sick of everyone in it :) Loved everything about it, including the sets, the design aesthetic, the locations they chose, the OST etc. It will be a definite rewatch for me at some point, and I can count on two hands the number of C-dramas I've rewatched in the last two decades.