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On The First Frost Mar 10, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
The scene with the mother Oh my, I was screaming "YF walk away, don't look back, walk away, that mother doesn't deserve you" but the script was so well done when calmly YF turned around, paced towards that ungratefulness woman, I stopped breathing thinking that she would embrace that woman in order to comfort her. But, YF without tears, not emotionless though, cut all ties with that trator of a mother. She was magnificent in that scene. She has walked miles to reach her deserved adulthood. Another brilliant scene.
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Replying to Findme1024 Mar 10, 2025
That applies to WYF too. She too has a lot of pride. (If you think she don't, then we are not watching the same…
I copy paste a part of my line in regards to SY "This is how SY was refering to when he talked about his pride that he left aside but kept his dignity "love". By reading your comment proves me the following:

1st you didn't understand Confucius quotation, so on this one and without insulting your intelligence I let you read it several times and ponder on it.

2nd you didn't understand SY's thought, so on this, I invite you to go back to that scene and listen carefully for, this might open your mind on the value of "pride" which is in psychology considered the second either elevating or destructive human emotion.

3rd my comment was not comparing SY & YF nor did it belittle YF, so read attentively several times my comment before jumping on the gun.

4th you are not really invested in this story because you've forgetten to listen and watch carefully to the script, the tones of voice, the macroexpressions, the atmosphere of the drama.

5th All you look at is only the story. In your aggressive comment you added the adverb "anymore". Does it mean that you dropped that drama? You don't even understand the meaning of this adverb "anymore" so, I am not surprise that this Confucius quotation, neither my comment, nor the script of this drama is at the level of your understanding and even at level of the one giving you thumb up.

I read your comment several times before answering and I find it really pathetic. Tone down when commenting and stop making a fool of yourself.
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Replying to VEDANT Mar 9, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
i m from india can you add me in he group
Please read once more that 1st commenter's note and wonder on the following :
1. why does he/she needs so desperately "friends" from East Asia ???
2. Have you visited her/his DML's profile ???
3. My husband was scammed by someone fron that region. And I almost had the same experience.
4. That commenter recommended you an app on the spot but wrote "a while ago" ??? It's too weird.
5. Your answer that you "didn't find it" ??? Ask yourself why you didn't find it (because it doesn't exist)
6. Now, I bet his/her next request will be monney advance because she/her had to pay a link in cash advance before sending it to you. So you'll have to either reimburse or send him/her the extra investment.

Wait and see.
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Replying to VEDANT Mar 9, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
i m from india can you add me in he group
Better be careful than sorry. Looks more like a scam to me.
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Replying to VEDANT Mar 9, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
i m from india can you add me in he group
Play it safe.
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Replying to Blossom_springs Mar 9, 2025
He literally has one of the most perfect life. A wonderful set of parents, a cute little sister, great friends,…
Your sister is wise.
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On The First Frost Mar 9, 2025
"A wise man has dignity without pride; a fool has pride without dignity. Confucius" end of quote.
This is how SY was refering to when he talked about his pride that he left aside but kept his dignity "love". He could have kept his pride and walk away by brushing all his tourments under the rug. He did not because love is not logic, love is facing him like a mirror...pure human emotion.
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Replying to trunkenta18 Mar 9, 2025
wasnt really expecting to like this since i hated hidden love, but im 10 ep in on my first seating and i cant…
You are here for a ride. Nothing to compare with HL.
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Replying to CasualCDfan Mar 9, 2025
Such a lovely love story. So much better than The First Frost.
It is a nice, sweet and linear story line. Well directed, acted, cinematographed, casting team made fan's base happy, intersting in the field of TCM (that heals my kydney, heart palpitations, my teary eyes, insomnia issues). The 2 protagonists flushed swiftly. It is a light, fluffy, it is an apeasing contemporary script with great parenting, friendship, love from the very start of birth for both leads that didn't trigger traumas in their adult life. They fit the pourcentage of lucky people because of their healthy environment. Yes, I need this candid Cdrama at times. However, it will not be stamped into my memory and my heart.

To compare them is quite awkward because TFF it is not a story for everyone unless because of fans' base. TFF's love narrative is totally different. It is deep in its complexity. It is a troublesome Cdrama because one is face with the responsibility to acknowledge real life issues. One is face to make a choice when an issue arise, would love be stronger than every day life logic. And one realises that love HAS NO logic and IS NO logic. It isn't a story for everyone because of its maturity, its reality in stepping into PTSD mental illness syndroms, its involvement in educating the viewers and assuring victims that they are not alone. Its opening either a door or a window to how eventually find reassurance in life. Its a step by step personal healing process. The leads' dialogues hit the marks, their silence when facing their respective traumas is speaking through their macroexpressions. It is well edited, their background stories is short and the visual embraces their voyage through the years. The casting director has made an amazing choice (please fans of TBC, don't throw stones at me).
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Replying to paxxie Mar 8, 2025
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WOAH ! Thanks.
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Replying to OfftoDramaLand Mar 8, 2025
I’m over here screaming with his hand slowly being inserted into her sleeve and the camera zooming into her…
🤣😂😍😁🤦‍♂️😜🤦‍♀️
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Replying to joanna Mar 8, 2025
can someone call the firefighters because after watching episode 27, i’m on FIRE!!!!!!!
I feel you...I blushed. They make it soooo real.
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Replying to MyLiking Mar 8, 2025
I have no clue about the book but in Cdramaland, "the piee of shit aunt and mother" will get a slap on the hand.
Nothing to do with a high five. The British expression "A slap on the hand" like some parents do to a child (I don't agree with this punishment). We are in Cdramaland so no court hearing, no compensation, no penalty, no 24h detention, no jail time for those two (allow me to add the aunt's son, that teenager "sitting on the fence"), so for those three. They've murdered no one so, they are "scot free" according to Cdramaland principles.
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Replying to sunghoon_iceking Mar 8, 2025
That uncle is such a pain in the ass like how can you do such a heinous crime get caught for it and still be doing…
People like that have no emotion. Their only pleasure and aim in life is to look at people suffer. They are sick. They are the one that instead of getting jail time or death penalty, are sent in the army as mercenaries. They are the best ennemy killers. The aunt has none and her son looks clueless. Growing up in this family background, that son will be an abuser. The aunt is verbaly abusive, her teenager son sits on the fence with a smile on his face. Just a trigger could turn them into murderers. Obviously it is a psycho family. There are many families like that in real life. Not surprising that there are so many disappearance. Cdramaland has the audacity to show us reality...no filters. Have you watched the contemporary Cdramas Imperfect Victim (2023), Imperfect Love (2020) ? Brace yourself and put on your seat belt.
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Replying to KioroDjirane Mar 8, 2025
Well, today was good. But... in episode 26, the scene between the second couple really surprised me. It's the…
Correct "a huge leap". in another airing Cdrama, menstruations is mentionned. Centertainment will unblocked some SKdrama.
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Replying to magnumopusofacoffee Mar 8, 2025
i am at ep 25 currently and this is SO triggering. i can't even imagine what yifan went through. someone please…
I have no clue about the book but in Cdramaland, "the piee of shit aunt and mother" will get a slap on the hand.
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Replying to CrimsonQuill Mar 8, 2025
I agree with everything you’ve said, and I’d add a couple more things. I was really disappointed with the…
I read carefully your comment and approve of it for one reason : PTSD as a mental illness. Out of all the comments, yours is the most knowledgable on this subject.

A love one suffers from PTSD after being confined and beaten for 1/2 year by her jealous lover. She was able to escape. Her whole body was bruised, patches of hair pulled, skinny like an anorexic. I know, it isn't WYF's experience. Neuroscientists and psychanalists will say that there is no difference because the trauma is not due to the intensity nor the length of time the victim is abused, it is already traumatic at the moment the abuse occurs. Your explanation here in regards to traumas, specifically WYF's traumas, as a victim, is on point. The victims want to be nursed and cured of their illness but cannot. They want to be out of that hell. It isn't the lack of will, they simply cannot talk about it, cannot work, cannot face every day tasks, cannot cross a street, have fibromyalgia syndrom, insomnia. It will take half of their life to regain some mental health because the symptoms (or the memories of the pain, fear) are for life as any trigger will take them back to square one.

The commenters' disappointment in regards to WYF decisions could be understandable as those commenters have no awareness of the seriousness of this illness and they have not the knowledge of this illness. So commenters are expected WYF to get on her horse and carry on living as usual. PTSD is a mental illness that is publicly acknowledged for the last decades or to be more precise since 1960. After WW2 and Vietnam War, time during which soldiers had to be treated and their mental illness medically recognised. Still nowadays PTSD as a mental illness isn't openly discussed within family members and friends. PTSD as a mental illness is seeing as a plague. As we live in a society that should be flawless, it is hushed.

There are literature and documentaries on the subject should someone interested to dig into this facinating field of neuroscience. By your comment I believe that you have documented yourself unless you work in that field and I found it refreshing to read a well written and intelligent text.
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Replying to sweetmacaroon Feb 15, 2025
Title The White Olive Tree Spoiler
Please someone tell me, does ”eloping” means they committed suicide at the end? Not only them get depressed.…
Their note left to their parents is a type of gloomy ending. Also, looking at their chill up the spine disappearing outlines i guess so. For some reason, suicide is a banned subject in the Cdrama industry. I feel for all the war veterans and the actual ones. My respect to them.
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