I've read your other comments and I totally agree with some points. More character development and more complex…
Again....it is just different taste and preference
I didn't see it that way...
He himself also played that game....
I find these 2 characters similar....and yes i believe many ppl went into this with a bias ans certain expectations......i also recognized why it annoys ppl (her character). He manipulates situations and trick ppl for his personal gain.....but that's ok that he steals from ppl....his character is soo charming and likable. He is the MC so of course they make him smarter and more likeable....but he has his faults that is over looked. His character is very selfish and self serving.
Again different perspectives....many ppl dont find it that way
There is plenty dectective shows with romance...so i see no problem with it....honestly they had a few moments and it is subtle....it has not taking over the drama....the lame cases has
She has a reason to have him reject it....it is from her father....she don't want him to owe her dad in any terms....owe of gratitude....she has told him before.... her dad had motive ans it will needs to be repay...
I feel many ppl have these certain expectations and bias....and of course we see things differently....
Ppl see it as her trying to be cute and for forgiveness....yet no1 talk about him doing the same thing...sweet talking and acting cute to try to get away with things....i see them both doing this...soo... i didn't find that scene romantic with her acting cute for him to let it go....
The scenes i like from there is...
The heart to heart talk about them wanting more time and love from the parents
The scene at the school/fire with what he said that show their progression in their bond. After the dinner at her dad's
Some scenes are childish and QC is done with those two and leave.
L.Y. doesn't just act childish and bickering with the F.L. he does it with his classmate too....he is pokey and was fighting like a child with his ex Harvard classmate like he does with B.Y....he was just as annoying as her insulting his friend ans picking a fight....that Q.C. was done with him and walked away cuz L.Y. was being wicked childish and was arguing nonsense with the other guy....he initiates it with his verbal jabs to annoy ppl. She is also is competitive and fight with her peers....these two are pretty similar
I expect nothing less from these bickering children
Maybe I'm more tolerable than most people....
Is the F.L. character greatly written....no...but again it is also the eye of the beholder of their want and expectations from this drama....but the other characters has faults as well that no one pointing it out. Out of the 3 i like Q.C. the most.
I feel in general the F.L sometimes isn't always written the best... I'm not really annoyed by any of their antics....i take it as it is and don't take it soo seriously....
My issue is the crime getting lamer along with the character's interactions...if they can't have an entertaining crime/criminal...at least have the characters be entertaining....non of the characters is that entertaining to me now....they lost that flow for me since ep 12
I barely chuckle at any of the character's antics like i did in the beginning...they use to have jokes and spat that got you going...hahaha...but it falls flat with the 3 of them
I don't get the issue some ppl have with the face/identity change.....she is wanted by the whole country....of course she need a face change/identity...
I don't like it that it is change to her dead loyal servant....since ppl should know these two are connected
It would be better if Zhao L. Wasn't the servant and a random face she needs to hide her identity....
So far the drama is decent ..the main leads have given me quiet a few lol chuckles
I complete agree with you. Frankly the FL is not needed at all. An immature journalist part of an investigation…
This is my bad habit of responding to ppl and speaking in general sense....
You'll be disappointed cuz the cases are soo simple ....and all 3 of them looks stupid sometimes....yes she initiated most of it...her characters is just as the writer portrayed it...all through out the drama i hear...she spoiled...gets her way....he himself is also pokey...some time she js just talking and giving info....he would verbally jab at her....that is the dynamic they want to portray of them jabbing and pokey at each other.
Thw writing is getting flat....the interactions is no longer as entertaining and crime is soooo lame....
I know it's a fluff ....i wish they can do better in character development and crime
My comment isn't really directed toward you in particular....
I reply to your comment yes....i tend to do that....horrible habit....
I'm replying and adding the discussion and my general statement of what i observed...
Again ..it is the eye of the beholder and how it connect and relate to us....
We will not like or perceive things in the same way....
There is soo many drama where i find that annoying as well....
As my new comment....i said that all the characters had digress in interactions and i find it slowing down and starting to bore me
This Drama is losing it's track for me....the flow is going off...starting at ep 17Some flow of the scenes are…
The recent case at the school.
The guy has a powerful gangsta uncle....why did he have to kill the guy....yes the guy has connections but his uncle is also a gangster who has connect....
It is too simple....and dumb....
Also the guy that came to give him the ticket....it just skip over it...n we don't know what up....the flow is random
This Drama is losing it's track for me....the flow is going off...starting at ep 17
Some flow of the scenes are so random and have no flow or connect.....it like ADHD....we see this scene and it skip to the next scene like a time jump....random scene...that didn't connect to the previous scene...that scene didnt seem to conclude itself yet.
The cases are soo simple...and turning even simplier....the lastest case was wicked dumb and simple....
Ppl blast the F.L....she is supposed to be childish/spoiled.....they, the characters mentioned it through out the series....she is not acting any different that how they mentioned and percieved her....like LY who is money hungry and is very self servinf....for now none of the characters has too much growth.....LY is childish too....
I hope they have more growth ...LY is for him to be less selfish/ self serving and actually care about what ia going on....he also has intimate issues with people in general
QC....i wish they developed his detective skill and have him be more self serving. He also deserve these inhabited happiness .... BY needs to grow up a little more....mature more...she have said to LY that she had always been spoiled and got her way....that she appreciated him as a friend who didn't treat her as such
I feel BY & LY can help each other....he helps by treating her differently and making her grow...she helps by pushing him to care about the cases and what's going around more...QC is such a good brother to them....i wish they didnt dumb him down soo much
They have dumb down QC and BY to make LY smarter....is he smarter...sure....is he a genuis....nope....the cases are just soo simple and they made the criminal extremely simple as it progress
I see no one on QC for being dumb....i dear say cuz ppl are rooting for B.L. therefore him not being a good detective is a pass...while the girl isn't...
I like all 3 when they clown each other....
They lost some of their interactions in later ep...
Now we have a love at 1st sight and marriage proposal....? What?
I'm starting to get bored....even their interactions is getting bored and less....they are interacting less....in a less entertaining way
It seems like they are adding a new plot...now it seems to head towards QC romance?...he is like a puppy to it..?huh? What?...hopefully it picks up again for me....
I wish these crimes were better subplots....
Ppl who is wishing and hoping for a lowkey B.L. i highly suggest you drop and leave this drama....it is not the directions they are headed and it clearly shows it since the beginning.... you'll be severely disappointed and will only have complaints about it. This bromance is not a lowkey B.L..... saving you guys the trouble....dont waste your time complaining about it. You won't get a satisfactory B.L. (out of 20 ep....maybe 5 scenes is lowkey B.L, even then it wasn't even good) even close and will be annoyed with all Female interactions because you expect this to be something it's not.
Kdrama Goblin has better bromance
The food they show makes me hungry and my mouth water.....
The end lol
I'll probably keep up with this just to see where they go....but I'm not expecting too much....i feel like it's filler eps in the sense.....i hope for better smart cases with serial killers but i won't hold my breathe
I actually like the Bai Youning character. She adds colors to the two 'boys'. Xiao Yan is such a talented actress.
Yes, her character is childish....so is LY
I like QC....but his character isn't a great detective
I feel like they dumb down the characters to highlight LY smart...yes he is smart but not a genius....the cases are wicked simple and dumb...
The recent ep 17-20 flow and direction is kinda random?
Also she is not ACTING out of character....she is acting how she is suppose to act..(how they want the character to be, i hope there will be growth...cause her dad said she grew up a little) ..her dad...LY...QC....and herself have stated she is spoiled and gets her way....
She even thank LY for not treating her the way everyone did....she appreciate him not spoiling her and letting her get her way...
They had a heart to heart....they are both children who yearn for affection from their parents.
I haven't finished it yet...i seen clips
I find i get bored easily with drama by the 1/2 of 3/4 of the way
Majority of drama the ep are longs with dragged out fillers....
It might be different for you.... your reaction might be different
I didn't see it that way...
He himself also played that game....
I find these 2 characters similar....and yes i believe many ppl went into this with a bias ans certain expectations......i also recognized why it annoys ppl (her character). He manipulates situations and trick ppl for his personal gain.....but that's ok that he steals from ppl....his character is soo charming and likable. He is the MC so of course they make him smarter and more likeable....but he has his faults that is over looked. His character is very selfish and self serving.
Again different perspectives....many ppl dont find it that way
There is plenty dectective shows with romance...so i see no problem with it....honestly they had a few moments and it is subtle....it has not taking over the drama....the lame cases has
She has a reason to have him reject it....it is from her father....she don't want him to owe her dad in any terms....owe of gratitude....she has told him before.... her dad had motive ans it will needs to be repay...
I feel many ppl have these certain expectations and bias....and of course we see things differently....
Ppl see it as her trying to be cute and for forgiveness....yet no1 talk about him doing the same thing...sweet talking and acting cute to try to get away with things....i see them both doing this...soo... i didn't find that scene romantic with her acting cute for him to let it go....
The scenes i like from there is...
The heart to heart talk about them wanting more time and love from the parents
The scene at the school/fire with what he said that show their progression in their bond. After the dinner at her dad's
Some scenes are childish and QC is done with those two and leave.
L.Y. doesn't just act childish and bickering with the F.L. he does it with his classmate too....he is pokey and was fighting like a child with his ex Harvard classmate like he does with B.Y....he was just as annoying as her insulting his friend ans picking a fight....that Q.C. was done with him and walked away cuz L.Y. was being wicked childish and was arguing nonsense with the other guy....he initiates it with his verbal jabs to annoy ppl. She is also is competitive and fight with her peers....these two are pretty similar
I expect nothing less from these bickering children
Maybe I'm more tolerable than most people....
Is the F.L. character greatly written....no...but again it is also the eye of the beholder of their want and expectations from this drama....but the other characters has faults as well that no one pointing it out. Out of the 3 i like Q.C. the most.
I feel in general the F.L sometimes isn't always written the best... I'm not really annoyed by any of their antics....i take it as it is and don't take it soo seriously....
My issue is the crime getting lamer along with the character's interactions...if they can't have an entertaining crime/criminal...at least have the characters be entertaining....non of the characters is that entertaining to me now....they lost that flow for me since ep 12
I barely chuckle at any of the character's antics like i did in the beginning...they use to have jokes and spat that got you going...hahaha...but it falls flat with the 3 of them
I don't like it that it is change to her dead loyal servant....since ppl should know these two are connected
It would be better if Zhao L. Wasn't the servant and a random face she needs to hide her identity....
So far the drama is decent
..the main leads have given me quiet a few lol chuckles
I'll still watch it....they seem to be added something to it...including his dad into it....but it is small droplets
As for the crime...the recents 1 has been really blah and lame to me
You'll be disappointed cuz the cases are soo simple ....and all 3 of them looks stupid sometimes....yes she initiated most of it...her characters is just as the writer portrayed it...all through out the drama i hear...she spoiled...gets her way....he himself is also pokey...some time she js just talking and giving info....he would verbally jab at her....that is the dynamic they want to portray of them jabbing and pokey at each other.
Thw writing is getting flat....the interactions is no longer as entertaining and crime is soooo lame....
I know it's a fluff ....i wish they can do better in character development and crime
My comment isn't really directed toward you in particular....
I reply to your comment yes....i tend to do that....horrible habit....
I'm replying and adding the discussion and my general statement of what i observed...
Again
..it is the eye of the beholder and how it connect and relate to us....
We will not like or perceive things in the same way....
There is soo many drama where i find that annoying as well....
As my new comment....i said that all the characters had digress in interactions and i find it slowing down and starting to bore me
The princess girl is pretty to...a more mature look in a sense?
I saw a clip of Zhao doinf archery....she is amazing in her posture and vibe.....i can totally see her play a more stoic character
I know this is a fluff....but they can make better interesting cases instead of dumbing down the characters of QC and BY
They also lost the flow of the trios interactions....they are barely funny together anymore and less interactions
I can tolerate dumb cases if they kept the pace of the trio interactions in clowning each other....fun/funny interactions they are not
LY is childish
I like the trio together when they clown each other but that has lost it's flow since ep16
The guy has a powerful gangsta uncle....why did he have to kill the guy....yes the guy has connections but his uncle is also a gangster who has connect....
It is too simple....and dumb....
Also the guy that came to give him the ticket....it just skip over it...n we don't know what up....the flow is random
Some flow of the scenes are so random and have no flow or connect.....it like ADHD....we see this scene and it skip to the next scene like a time jump....random scene...that didn't connect to the previous scene...that scene didnt seem to conclude itself yet.
The cases are soo simple...and turning even simplier....the lastest case was wicked dumb and simple....
Ppl blast the F.L....she is supposed to be childish/spoiled.....they, the characters mentioned it through out the series....she is not acting any different that how they mentioned and percieved her....like LY who is money hungry and is very self servinf....for now none of the characters has too much growth.....LY is childish too....
I hope they have more growth ...LY is for him to be less selfish/ self serving and actually care about what ia going on....he also has intimate issues with people in general
QC....i wish they developed his detective skill and have him be more self serving. He also deserve these inhabited happiness
....
BY needs to grow up a little more....mature more...she have said to LY that she had always been spoiled and got her way....that she appreciated him as a friend who didn't treat her as such
I feel BY & LY can help each other....he helps by treating her differently and making her grow...she helps by pushing him to care about the cases and what's going around more...QC is such a good brother to them....i wish they didnt dumb him down soo much
They have dumb down QC and BY to make LY smarter....is he smarter...sure....is he a genuis....nope....the cases are just soo simple and they made the criminal extremely simple as it progress
I see no one on QC for being dumb....i dear say cuz ppl are rooting for B.L. therefore him not being a good detective is a pass...while the girl isn't...
I like all 3 when they clown each other....
They lost some of their interactions in later ep...
Now we have a love at 1st sight and marriage proposal....? What?
I'm starting to get bored....even their interactions is getting bored and less....they are interacting less....in a less entertaining way
It seems like they are adding a new plot...now it seems to head towards QC romance?...he is like a puppy to it..?huh? What?...hopefully it picks up again for me....
I wish these crimes were better subplots....
Ppl who is wishing and hoping for a lowkey B.L. i highly suggest you drop and leave this drama....it is not the directions they are headed and it clearly shows it since the beginning.... you'll be severely disappointed and will only have complaints about it. This bromance is not a lowkey B.L..... saving you guys the trouble....dont waste your time complaining about it. You won't get a satisfactory B.L. (out of 20 ep....maybe 5 scenes is lowkey B.L, even then it wasn't even good) even close and will be annoyed with all Female interactions because you expect this to be something it's not.
Kdrama Goblin has better bromance
The food they show makes me hungry and my mouth water.....
The end lol
I'll probably keep up with this just to see where they go....but I'm not expecting too much....i feel like it's filler eps in the sense.....i hope for better smart cases with serial killers but i won't hold my breathe
Some of the cases is soo simple
They dumb down the characters..LY is smart but not a genius
The cases are wicked simple and dumb
QC is dumn down and has no logic either...but no1 js talking about that.....
The flow of this drama is getting off....
I like QC....but his character isn't a great detective
I feel like they dumb down the characters to highlight LY smart...yes he is smart but not a genius....the cases are wicked simple and dumb...
The recent ep 17-20 flow and direction is kinda random?
Also she is not ACTING out of character....she is acting how she is suppose to act..(how they want the character to be, i hope there will be growth...cause her dad said she grew up a little) ..her dad...LY...QC....and herself have stated she is spoiled and gets her way....
She even thank LY for not treating her the way everyone did....she appreciate him not spoiling her and letting her get her way...
They had a heart to heart....they are both children who yearn for affection from their parents.
So i go into it as that....
I.e. Nirvana in Fire.
I have always watched drama to see if it clicks with me storywise.
Certain drama is clearly romance....i go in knowing it is that....
Other drama isn't...crime...thriller...horror...
I click on a possible drama base off of the storyline...
I.e. big Boss....it not a romantic drama....it is friendship