I did think her redemption "arc" (if you can call it that even) was done so poorly and quickly it gave me whiplash.…
Agreed! Just one more example of a drama with too many episodes. I actually really liked the drama, generally, but a few of these side characters I actively disliked and thought we didn't need to see nearly as much of.
I am loving this drama SO MUCH so far!! After watching the first three or four episodes I realized that I love love love Z.Tao (it was my first time ever seeing him in anything.) Because of that, the wait between episodes of this drama became so excruciating that I went and binge-watched Brightest Star in the Sky and started listening to his music as well. :-) I was not actually that big of a C-drama fan before this, (dubbing, sound issues, and too many episodes!) but I did finish To Fly With You, and Song Zu Er is my new favorite - she is incredibly talented and I will definitely watch more of her dramas. Thanks for the article!
I would agree, but what are you gonna do when it is so baked into the culture as it seems to be in Japan. And…
I don't know why you are acting the way you are, but I'm done with you. YOU are acting very arrogantly and missed COMPLETELY the point I was trying to make. But you know what? I don't give a shit anymore, because it's not worth it. Talk about not taking bullshit kindly. Good. Bye.
I would agree, but what are you gonna do when it is so baked into the culture as it seems to be in Japan. And…
Ok, I'm confused now. Why are you getting so pissed off? I'm not sure why you're taking my comments this way - you seem pissed off at my saying that research (and anecdotal stories) are out there about how bad domestic violence and child abuse has been (and to some extent still is in the US.) I'm honestly not sure why you're saying that that is making jabs at you. It isn't, actually. If you don't have personal experience with severe domestic violence, then GREAT! I'm honestly grateful for that, because getting abused is horrible and I don't wish it on anyone. But the fact that you seem to be taking this whole thing very personally is weird to me. I thought we were having a conversation, a back and forth, but all of a sudden it took a turn that I'm confused about. Here's my point #1: you originally made some strong statements about Japanese culture and society, and I countered, without actually totally disagreeing with you, that this country ALSO has had a serious history of domestic violence and child abuse. Misogyny and intimate violence happens everywhere, all over the world. You said it was "baked into the culture" and I would caution you not to decide something for an entire culture based on a tv show or two, or even ten. Because it's everywhere, even if you don't see it. Does domestic violence happen there? Yes. Does it happen in other countries? Yes. Does it happen here? Yes. Who cares if it's the same exact scenario or not? Violence is violence, abuse is abuse - who gives a shit if it's a sword or a belt or a fist? J*sus. The impact is the same. Women have been expected to be housewives and often get the brunt of familial expectations in this country not that long ago as well, and still in some circles here. That was the point of my earlier comment.
Point #2 Do I know if this SPECIFIC incident ever happened in the US, like with swords, etc? No, of course not. But have women ever been forced to do things they didn't want to do because of an abusive and misogynist husband (which includes groveling and pleading and begging)? YES!! I don't even know why this is a question. It's not "assertions" for me - it's having lived in this world for long enough to hear and read about what goes on sometimes behind closed doors (and having had a little firsthand experience as well as working for six years as a social worker as well as studying it some in college.)
Which brings me to my last point: You said you disagreed that violence against children here is not as extreme, and I disagreed with you. You yourself said that you might be wrong and that "I'd have to do a lot of research to find out." I was simply affirming that there is research out there that could help you come to a conclusion and you got pissed off and told me it was my job. No, it's not. I'm not going to provide research for you - it's actually NOT my job to do your work for you. There's lots of information out there about this topic, but I'm not Googling it for you.
I would agree, but what are you gonna do when it is so baked into the culture as it seems to be in Japan. And…
I would say it wasn't very long ago that women here were largely relegated to subservient housewife roles, and even now it still continues in some households, like I said before. The severity of violence was largely the same, and I think it's been well-researched and that research is very accessible. And that's just violence against women. When it came to violence against children, that was just as prevalent and severe here (and again, the research is very accessible.) (Not to mention I have heard a lot of harrowing stories myself from friends and acquaintances so it's not just anecdotal either.) And domestic violence can cause a parent to stand by while other members of the family are harmed, for reasons such as fear and shock/numbness. (I would recommend that you put your comment under a spoiler tag and I will as well.)
You should already know the answer to this - there's both no definitive answer and lots of answers why someone is drawn to another person, whether it's in real life or on a screen (or in your earbuds or speakers.)
I would agree, but what are you gonna do when it is so baked into the culture as it seems to be in Japan. And…
I hear you. As another American though, it wasn’t so long ago here that that was also the norm (and still is in some households.) It’s not like this in every family in Japan, and I think that education and advocacy the world over has its benefits.
I was not actually that big of a C-drama fan before this, (dubbing, sound issues, and too many episodes!) but I did finish To Fly With You, and Song Zu Er is my new favorite - she is incredibly talented and I will definitely watch more of her dramas.
Thanks for the article!
Good. Bye.
If you don't have personal experience with severe domestic violence, then GREAT! I'm honestly grateful for that, because getting abused is horrible and I don't wish it on anyone. But the fact that you seem to be taking this whole thing very personally is weird to me. I thought we were having a conversation, a back and forth, but all of a sudden it took a turn that I'm confused about.
Here's my point #1: you originally made some strong statements about Japanese culture and society, and I countered, without actually totally disagreeing with you, that this country ALSO has had a serious history of domestic violence and child abuse. Misogyny and intimate violence happens everywhere, all over the world. You said it was "baked into the culture" and I would caution you not to decide something for an entire culture based on a tv show or two, or even ten. Because it's everywhere, even if you don't see it. Does domestic violence happen there? Yes. Does it happen in other countries? Yes. Does it happen here? Yes. Who cares if it's the same exact scenario or not? Violence is violence, abuse is abuse - who gives a shit if it's a sword or a belt or a fist? J*sus. The impact is the same. Women have been expected to be housewives and often get the brunt of familial expectations in this country not that long ago as well, and still in some circles here. That was the point of my earlier comment.
Point #2 Do I know if this SPECIFIC incident ever happened in the US, like with swords, etc? No, of course not. But have women ever been forced to do things they didn't want to do because of an abusive and misogynist husband (which includes groveling and pleading and begging)? YES!! I don't even know why this is a question.
It's not "assertions" for me - it's having lived in this world for long enough to hear and read about what goes on sometimes behind closed doors (and having had a little firsthand experience as well as working for six years as a social worker as well as studying it some in college.)
Which brings me to my last point: You said you disagreed that violence against children here is not as extreme, and I disagreed with you. You yourself said that you might be wrong and that "I'd have to do a lot of research to find out." I was simply affirming that there is research out there that could help you come to a conclusion and you got pissed off and told me it was my job. No, it's not. I'm not going to provide research for you - it's actually NOT my job to do your work for you. There's lots of information out there about this topic, but I'm not Googling it for you.
And domestic violence can cause a parent to stand by while other members of the family are harmed, for reasons such as fear and shock/numbness.
(I would recommend that you put your comment under a spoiler tag and I will as well.)