On your profile, it said that you watched Put Your Head on My Shoulder, but you didn't give it a rating. I think…
No, I'm not wrong. It's my opinion that it's lazy filmmaking to dub over diverse accents instead of teaching actors to master other accents, like in many, many other places in the world. Also, I didn't say that YOU don't want to show China's diversity to the world, but the entity who is making the dubbing decisions must not.
And news flash, many, many folks who live and work in NYC have southern accents! NYC, like Beijing, is a major city and hosts people from absolutely everywhere in the world, including the south of the US. And if a character in a NYC show or film has a southern accent, (which by the way happens!) then either it's acknowledged or a comment is made about where they're from originally, or it's ignored, because everyone here has some sort of accent and the character is just assumed to have moved to NYC from somewhere else. If an actor's southern accent is too thick to be understood (and that's also happened!) then either that actor isn't hired for a non-southern role or that actor does some work and learns how to flatten out their accent so they can be understood and hired.
I don't understand the issues of dialects and accents? Hmm, well, the US (a country of 330,000,000) has 350 main languages and 30 dialects of just English alone, not to mention the dialects and accents of all those who have emigrated here, either recently or longer ago. And Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese, and the other languages/dialects) is ranked the number 3 most populous language spoken in the US, after English and Spanish.
On your profile, it said that you watched Put Your Head on My Shoulder, but you didn't give it a rating. I think…
When is it "vital" to the plot? Like when actors can't do the jobs they're paid to do? So for that reason why would an actor from the Fujian region get hired to speak Mandarin in a role if they can't speak it? Everywhere else in the world that actor would spend time learning the language that would need to get spoken.
On your profile, it said that you watched Put Your Head on My Shoulder, but you didn't give it a rating. I think…
I went back and checked the dubbing in Put Your Head on My Shoulder and it sounds like some characters are dubbed and some use their own voice. That makes it even worse in my opinion because the sound isn't evenly matched all the way through. Dubbing a modern C-drama makes the whole thing sound unrealistic and frankly, fake.
That's saddening, CN dramas will be dubbed even if its the real voice from the actors. Everyone can't like the…
Acting calls for the whole body to be used, and that includes the voice. In fact, the voice is so important that those of us who are trained actors have had years of classes and training for our voices. And that's not just in this country. Also, China is hardly the only country with different languages and dialects spoken. In South Korea, folks from Jeju Island have their own dialect and it's often written into dramas - the characters from Seoul make note of how they can't understand the folks from Jeju (and subtitles are used.) The same is true in Taiwan of the Hokkien language/dialect, and there are actors who are fluent in both Mandarin and Hokkien who are never dubbed, (until they act in a mainland Chinese drama.)
It's only dramas that are dubbed and not movies, correct? (And definitely not movies for international awards seasons, right?) Anyone know the reason for this?
On your profile, it said that you watched Put Your Head on My Shoulder, but you didn't give it a rating. I think…
I've watched a few dubbed dramas, and I don't rate all of them on here. I liked Put Your Head on My Shoulder fine - except for the dubbing. I've also seen My Dear Lady and am in the middle of a few others. I don't understand this statement you made: "I have not watched any dubbed Chinese dramas, so I am missing part of your perspective, of inaccurate dubbing." It sounds from your comment like you have watched dubbed dramas so I was wondering what you meant here, or if you accidentally forgot a word. I don't agree - at all - with your statement that there needs to be a level of homogeneity and uniformity. There doesn't, in my opinion. You said: "A Beijing accent paired with an accent of a completely different region will not make sense." So people from other parts of China (or other places in the world) with other accents never move to Beijing and live and work and fall in love there? Are you not allowed to live in Beijing and have your story told if you have a different accent or dialect? The world - and China - is a very diverse place, and by dubbing over it because you want a uniform accent (that sounds exactly the same all the time) you're either simply ignoring the diversity, or worse, want the rest of the world to think that it doesn't exist.
I've never heard anyone say that they actually *like* the dubbing in C-dramas, so this was interesting for that reason. However, I DO NOT like dubbing, and to be perfectly honest, I don't buy the need to dub just to have a standard accent. That seems lazy to me and overly homogeneous. Also, something about the sound of dubbed breathing and the odd footstep sounds just sets my teeth on edge. I've forced myself to watch several dubbed shows because I wanted to see the actors but I just can't manage very many. I'd like a list of C-dramas that AREN'T dubbed so that I can watch those sometime.
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Also, I didn't say that YOU don't want to show China's diversity to the world, but the entity who is making the dubbing decisions must not.
And news flash, many, many folks who live and work in NYC have southern accents! NYC, like Beijing, is a major city and hosts people from absolutely everywhere in the world, including the south of the US. And if a character in a NYC show or film has a southern accent, (which by the way happens!) then either it's acknowledged or a comment is made about where they're from originally, or it's ignored, because everyone here has some sort of accent and the character is just assumed to have moved to NYC from somewhere else. If an actor's southern accent is too thick to be understood (and that's also happened!) then either that actor isn't hired for a non-southern role or that actor does some work and learns how to flatten out their accent so they can be understood and hired.
I don't understand the issues of dialects and accents? Hmm, well, the US (a country of 330,000,000) has 350 main languages and 30 dialects of just English alone, not to mention the dialects and accents of all those who have emigrated here, either recently or longer ago. And Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese, and the other languages/dialects) is ranked the number 3 most populous language spoken in the US, after English and Spanish.
Also, China is hardly the only country with different languages and dialects spoken. In South Korea, folks from Jeju Island have their own dialect and it's often written into dramas - the characters from Seoul make note of how they can't understand the folks from Jeju (and subtitles are used.) The same is true in Taiwan of the Hokkien language/dialect, and there are actors who are fluent in both Mandarin and Hokkien who are never dubbed, (until they act in a mainland Chinese drama.)
I don't understand this statement you made: "I have not watched any dubbed Chinese dramas, so I am missing part of your perspective, of inaccurate dubbing." It sounds from your comment like you have watched dubbed dramas so I was wondering what you meant here, or if you accidentally forgot a word.
I don't agree - at all - with your statement that there needs to be a level of homogeneity and uniformity. There doesn't, in my opinion. You said: "A Beijing accent paired with an accent of a completely different region will not make sense." So people from other parts of China (or other places in the world) with other accents never move to Beijing and live and work and fall in love there? Are you not allowed to live in Beijing and have your story told if you have a different accent or dialect?
The world - and China - is a very diverse place, and by dubbing over it because you want a uniform accent (that sounds exactly the same all the time) you're either simply ignoring the diversity, or worse, want the rest of the world to think that it doesn't exist.
Also, something about the sound of dubbed breathing and the odd footstep sounds just sets my teeth on edge. I've forced myself to watch several dubbed shows because I wanted to see the actors but I just can't manage very many. I'd like a list of C-dramas that AREN'T dubbed so that I can watch those sometime.