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**Interesting Fact/Not Really a Spoiler**


Just wanted to throw out an interesting fact about Fox Spirit Matchmaker series. The title "Fox Spirit Matchmaker" is because of the original manhua where the Tushan Fox Clan are protectors of this "Bitter Love Tree". If a pair of demon-human lovers go to that tree, they are able to make a pledge of love that connects them no matter how many reincarnations they have. This is because human live spans are too short and the demon would be in grief if their human lover died. However, human-human lovers can't make a pledge. This explains why there's "matchmaker" in the title (but now that part is gone from Sword and Beloved and Love in Pavilion because the manhua fans were disappointed with the first series).

Watching Love in Pavilion before this show is what I recommend because the current world setting in Sword and Beloved is quite dire and if you've watched LiP, you will better understand the situation and certain characters in SaB.

Also, SaB basically spoils what happens in LiP. If LiP is in your watchlist, you should probably watch that first otherwise you'll be spoiled. However, if you don't have enough time, like others have said, these dramas are standalones, so I guess you can go straight to watching SaB!

Wellll, if you have Love in Pavilion in your watchlist, you should probably watch that first because Sword and Beloved would basically spoil your experience for that show.

The connection is: Wangquan Fugui (Sword and Beloved's ML) is the son of the ML (Wangquan Hongye) and FL (Dongfang Huaizhu) of Love in Pavilion and Fugui is also the cousin of the ML (Dongfang Yuechu) from Red Moon Pact. Love in Pavilion is a good watch to understand more about the Wangquan family and the setting of the world. Both Sword and Beloved and Red Moon Pact take place roughly around the same time period so it's not necessary to watch RMP before SaB.

However, if you don't have enough time, all three dramas are standalones, so I guess you can watch SaB without watching the others.

I don't know why too but I heard someone saying that all main leads of all Fox Spirit Matchmaker series had their voices dubbed.

I was also thinking that the entire time while watching Hongye and Fugui scenes. If Huaizhu was alive, she would've whacked Hong Ye. And also if Wangquan Zui, Yitan, and masked group were alive, how many adoring uncles and aunts Fugui would've have 😭😭😭

I heard that they changed his name to Rumu because dongman fans were unhappy with the changes, but basically Ru Mu or Wu Mu, they are the same person!

Let me be clear, I have no intention of fighting with you or anyone who give critiques too. I am open to critiques about shows that I enjoy (or not), and if you were to ask questions or comment about something specific about what you found lacking, I would be happy to discuss (provided that you are open to it). I just thought that saying that this show's storyline and script was bad without saying why and then bringing up then others should watch the other drama was disrespectful. But, I get that you don't have that intention. Anyways, I'm not trying to fight here, so I hope that whether you continue this drama or not, have a good time watching!

Yes but also no. Quan Ru Mu is Wangquan Wu Mu in the donghua and he is actually Wangquan Fugui's ancestor from like a very very very long time ago.

Listen, there's nothing wrong with critiques but exactly what are you giving critiques about? The only thing you said was "hard to ignore the terrible script and storyline". So what about it that you found bad and why? I also agree with you that positive comments on a show only is ridiculous, but what did you find lacking and terrible about the script and storyline then? Your whole comment basically just said this show is bad and audiences should watch WoF without saying what about it is lacking.

I'm enjoying this drama so much that I rewatched some scenes myself after watching the 5 eps with my mom. I love the characters themselves (not because of the actors), from the first five episodes, the plot is building up. There's glimpse of the main villain and Wangquan's family internal problems and the spider lady's motive and also about Fugui wanting to find meaning to life than just being a human weapon etc.

I think there's nothing wrong if this drama is not your cup of tea, you don't have to push yourself to continue if you don't like it. Bringing up other dramas in a lighthearted manner is also okay but to bring up other dramas while putting this drama down is not respectful, esp since this is Sword and Beloved page. Whispers of Fate is a totally different genre and plot.

If you don't think this drama is irredeemable then you can feel free to not continue. I have dropped dramas before, there's nothing wrong.

If going by donghua, Rumu is definitely not the villain. The main villain is the black fox, but Rumu's dad is also a villain.

Yesss agreed. When Huaizhu gave birth to Fugui, I could already feel the sadness that's coming. As much as Huaizhu probably loves her son, he was born with great responsibilities. Hongye went through crazy trauma and I think this is his own way of "protecting" Fugui. But I can tell that Hongye does care for him. He still calls him "Gui-er" in his heart. I don't know where this is going but hopefully this father-son pair can reconcile...

I get that!! Usually, I don't like emotionless characters unless the actor can portray it well. I think no matter how "emotionless" or "cold" the character is meant to be, there has to be some subtle details (unless the character is meant to be a robot/puppet). Really enjoying Wangquan Fugui so far

Ikr!! I was so shocked when he took the mask and wore it in front of his dad...like I held my breath because I thought his dad was gonna lash out at him 😭 I love that Fugui's character isn't just "cold", he actually shows like a stubborn and playful side sometimes hahaha

Hmm I don't think so. In the donghua FL did not die. I also don't think such a big show will kill off the FL in the middle.

HAHA I think I might be the only one enjoying the little spiders. I find 12580 so adorable 🤣

Li Yitong will be out soon! The spider is really exactly like the donghua haha

Li Yitong is so cuteee! I've actually not seen her play such an adorable role before and I've watched like 4-5 of her dramas. Back then I knew her from her tragic roles so it's so refreshing to see this bubbly side of her!

Cheng Yi I don't have to say much, I loveee his microexpressions. From his microexpressions, you can tell when Fugui is hurting/sad, amused, surprised (when Qingtong first transformed) and more! Compared to Xiao Qiushui (another CY character) who is so lively, Fugui is more gentle and reserved.

Err ML def has more screen time because this show is more about Wangquan family (ML's family), like the whole plotline revolves around Wangquan. Oh but I would say FL does have quite decent screentime so far (up till ep 5)!

Omg you described it so well! I really love their dynamic tooo