You keep posting the same gif out of context that doesn't prove anything you've said. However, if what you said…
The first gif, Reba is laughing with him, The second gif, he walks away himself no one intercepts them.
Besides repeating your "one time stamp" you have no other response; nor any abilities to take critique of your argument. I won't respond to any further comments from you, I fear you may burst a vessel trying to scream through your phone.
You keep posting the same gif out of context that doesn't prove anything you've said. However, if what you said…
"you don’t seem to read or comprehend properly"
I legit said you gave us one time stamp. Did you not read that or didn't comprehend it? What do subtitles have to do with anything? (perhaps your racist self is assuming my cultural background and language abilities).
You keep posting the same gif out of context that doesn't prove anything you've said. However, if what you said…
Also, since you're not posting time stamps, how about you look into these ones where the group compliments him, jokes with him, makes physical contact as friends do: S3,1 56:47 (He talks to ZLH, but Bai Yu, YN and Reba all jump in to compliment him - again there's no need to but they did) 57: YN pats him on the back during a joke 58:26: Reba sits down next to him even though she was standing b/w ZLH and YN initially- ZLH even moves to the side instead of cutting b/w Reba and him like you keep claiming the group does. If it's really a concern, he should've stayed where he was and kept her away from him). 59: They also continue teasing him in jokes but also encourage him by voting for him. 1:02:19-21: Reba votes for him, ZLH makes a joke with him not at him And the time stamp you're talking about, he's most likely stretching his tongue or jaw- many people do that after smiling for too long to relieve the tension in the jaw.
Conclusion: You're either an obsessive hater, or this is some extremist method to promote him lol
You keep posting the same gif out of context that doesn't prove anything you've said. However, if what you said…
he's literally just sitting casually (which i agree is not a proper position for broadcast, but nothing that proves ill intent either), and all the signaling you're mentioning could just be about finding the spy in the case. I posted the video to ask you to clarify your position since it's got loop holes. You posted only very short snippets and then made your own assumptions about his behaviour; anyone can see prejudice in your "evidence."
I replied because I genuinely wanted more proof shots that show any oddities in his behaviour (because if true, I wouldn't want to watch him), but you're just acting overly-defensive and lashing out your own personality issues. Like, everyone's asking for a few time-stamps, but you gave one, and 4 vague gifs. Even with the sitting position and tongue gif "showing his creep persona," the other two don't show anything. SO you technically gave 2 out-of-context gifs and one time-stamp.
Seems like asking for proper evidence instead of random out-of-context snippets and ONE timestamp, is "asking too much" for you. Do you expect everyone to re-watch all the seasons minute by minute to over analyze his every move and expression? (i.e. you saying he looks possessed and weird at reba just because of the camera angle- also he's clearly looking at Yiuning in the gif you provided; or the group looking serious even though they're trying to solve a case during that scene??). You keep mentioning that you'll give time stamps and create a collection of the gifs, but you make 1-2 sec gifs that don't show the whole context, so obviously no one will believe your accusations.
If you really want to look into it, then why don't you resolve all the times they laugh and chat with each other- particularly when they go up to him for a joke or chat? I doubt they're so "kind" that they would rather go up to a pervert/harasser to make jokes than keep a distance from someone who doesn't respect their friend, especially in behind the scenes footage.
At least drop the episode numbers and time stamps so people can go back to review the "incidents" you claim.
You keep posting the same gif out of context that doesn't prove anything you've said. However, if what you said is true then could you explain this video that shows clips of Reba reaching out to him and being comfortable enough around him to put her arm over his shoulder or reaching over him, offering snacks etc.?
This is from the latter episodes of S3, so if she really was uncomfortable with him why would she act casually like a friend? She didn't need to reach out to him, she could distance herself, and others could come in b/w them like you claim they've been doing t/o the seasons??
I have a hard time getting into costume dramas but I like Zhou Yiran. Is it worth the watch?
unfortunately, the top reviews sum it up. Major points of issues being:
(1) The directing is terrible making the show look, at times, like a draft instead of the final cut; The stage is high-quality but the scenes don't connect smoothly, or stir emotions. Like it's just moving scene to scene with a very quick explanation and no depth. (Ex. the atmosphere set in the first 2 seconds is wiped out abruptly in the next 2 seconds. I feel like the director just wanted to use this show as a test for some "new tricks and camera angles"; we legit got ML "making an entrance" like four different times as if we didn't know it was him... --> I fr thought this was a show directing by a newbie director....
(2) the main love line has no base (it just happens and we don't see them develop true affections at all; "they're just in love cause they're the main couple" (actually some random toxicity too - i know some people like angst, but this is not it).
Overall, a let down, but you could binge it since most eps are out if you are desperately looking for something to kill time.
The swastika symbol has a complex history. Originally, it was used in various cultures, including Buddhism and…
2. I just noticed your disclaimer on your profile that states: "Disclaimer: I actually have multiple personalities and they write things on this site without my will or consent or even memory, don't quote me by the things I've said or things I've done."
In case one of your ignorant personalities is typing this, I will not further engage, in case it stresses out the normal personalities.
And while you're at it, find me a medal that looks extremely close to it and could supposedly be the one in the picture.
BTW, you can also see a circle under the emperor's medal which probably is the swastika circle on the original nazi medal. So yeah, it def is that medal.
The swastika symbol has a complex history. Originally, it was used in various cultures, including Buddhism and…
Firstly, how weak of an ego do you need to cuss out at someone for taking a different viewpoint then you lmao, and second, you're terrible at making parallels, since not even one user under your comment understood that reference seen by them questioning your post.
Also, you can't just claim that censoring a cross is worse than censoring the swastika (are you claiming one religion is more superior than an other in value??).
Besides, the reason people are having issues with the medal isn't because of the cross, but the VERY close resemblance to the nazi medal which includes the cross shape and eagle, and from the picture it can easily be mistaken for that medal as the picture isn't clear enough (like add the swastika under the eagle and it's literally that medal). However, even if the image was clear enough to negate that resemblance, there are SO MANY OTHER medals that look VERY different which they could have used to prevent the misunderstanding, especially with the political scape nowadays. Trying to make it seem like they're censoring the cross is such an overhead shot I really can't think of any normal person thinking in that manner, yet that's all that came to your mind. smh.
Even other cross pattee medals; practically all of them look different to this one. Like seriously, if you don't know about medals just search them up and you'll find that a hefty majority of them look nothing like the nazi medal and you'd have to really search to find one that resembles the nazi medal. EVEN the ribbon colour and medal colour are the same, the only think missing is a small swastika underneath (if that's even missing since the picture's too small to see clearly).
So, your conviction doesn't hold any strength and instead seems to be propelled by only your narrow mind and ego. The only reason it appears you commented is because of own arrogance despite being ignorant about cultures, politics, or war medals.
Really hope he's not next, that no one is next. that the schemes they're plotting backfire on them. I just read…
Also, Tan Ben Xi was another artist under the same company, and released a song Pink Gun in Sep 2016, a few months before she "su*cide" --> the lyrics mention demons and how the world will forget her after she dies anyways : "You'll be forgotten by the world, everything back to normal I possess your body and your face"
It seems like a random song, but mentions of specific timings midnight to 3am (which by the way is ox hour, a time frame known in many cultures for "cursing rituals").... There's also mentions of "butterfly markings" and "screaming cats" which i'm not sure represent what if anything, but may be leading clues.
It's obvious that they're exploiting the mental health allegations and ruling everything as su*cide because they know, no one will or can question it since it's common for the entertainment industry to have mental health issues.
Really hope he's not next, that no one is next. that the schemes they're plotting backfire on them. I just read more into the 798 art zone and found something creepy which might be coincidence but it's likely not since they're doing cult sacrifices.
One of the "art sculptures" of the martial artist Qiu Feng was inside - he died August (8) 7th (78) YML died sep 11 at age of 37 --> 7 from 37 and 9 from month of sep. (79) Qiao Renliang died Sep 16 --> 9 from sep and 16 being a factor of 8 (98)
They also allegedly found robes marked with Shaolin seals inside the museum basement, so i suspect the monk was targeted too.
This might all be "overthinking" but at this point everything is suspicious. And like CCP owned the 798 factory before it was turned into "an art museum." And since they're doing cult things, I think they truly have some obsession with the numbers. We can't know the whole thing unless more evidence shows up, but i think it's too suspicious.
It looked like an 80s spoof of Aladdin and wasn't that bad? I don't know what it has to do with the drama (which…
Q1: "I guess my question is are you arguing this specific representation is so bad or overall the treatment of Middle Eastern cultures? " A1: I'm talking about this rep, but also mentioning examples of how middle east and south asian cultures have been repeatedly blasphemed by South Korea previously, so MBC can't play the ignorant card. It's done so often, there's no way MBC didn't know the offense it could cause.
Q2: " Are Koreans or East Asian not allowed to wear costumes or play Princess Jasmine (a White Disney created character) --> A2: Wearing a costume of a character is different than making up some "costume" based on a mixture of cultures and religions. I.e. the "Arabian clothes" mixed with the Hindu Tikka. --> Ex. Dressing up as Storm from Xmen is okay, but imagine if the creator of the character had decided to show Storm in what "they think" African clothing/symbols should look like and then mixed a bunch of different African cultures, and even added Other cultural symbols into it? I doubt people would think it's fine, so why is it "fine" here?
Q2 (cont.): " especially when Arab and India are such heavy consumers of (and haters of) kpop and k content and there is such a high fetishization of Asian women?" A2: The world itself is a heavy consumer and hater of k content, it's not just India or Middle East, so specifically mentioning them in that context doesn't support the argument at all. However, even if you take that as a valid support, surely you know that just because one group is doing something wrong, doesn't mean that another group doing the same thing against them is right. --> Ex. Racism from Korea towards the "Black community" doesn't give the "Black community" a right to be racist towards Koreans, and it doesn't make the action "right" either.
Q3: " the power differential of Arab countries being able to buy and pay for k pop stars to play at parties or Indian to hire Soo bin for would then also be really problematic." A4: Hiring someone to perform as part of their job is fine unless the job goes against moral principles or mocks the person and their community. Any country can pay artists to perform their proper jobs, but asking A to dress up in what they ASSUME B's cultural clothing is, is not right. That's where it gets problematic. Ex. America can pay BTS to perform, but if they have BTS performing in a mashup of Jewish symbols and German clothing, and then passing it off as a "light joke" or playing ignorance on the culture they chose to dress in without having proper research on the attire doesn't make anything excusable. Also, in that case if a German or Jewish community was offended, do you really think you have the right to over ride their group's beliefs and tell them that they're overreacting just because you yourself find it okay?
Even more problematic, when the cultures/religions being mashed up are done specifically for humor purposes every time and have stereotypically exaggerated performances. The "dance" and music, genie etc. are all exaggerated stereotypes in the ad. You never see proper Indian attire and dance or Arab dance/attire shown in k content. It's always some random moves that were labelled as Indian or Arab, and the outfits are always some sort of belly dancing attire, which doesn't even represent the cultures themselves. --> That's like every time an American is shown in k content, they should be dressed as cowboys and sing Cotton Eyed Joe, and not one serious and real example of an American in all of its media. OR every time a black culture is mentioned, it's only some stereotypical African imagery being shown with what they assume to be "African dance."
That should be enough for anyone to understand, but if you still think it's just a joke and the world's over reacting then that's your issue, and no one can make you learn.
So, you believe a few, very loud internet attention seekers present a representative cross-section of Indian/Indonesian…
"the ppl supporting mbc and korea on their deliberately offensive antics" I'm clearly talking about the demeaning supporters of the ad, and didn't even mention Koreans. You're American, but can't comprehend your own language? Stop trying to make it seem like your woke and anti-racist, while gas lighting others (especially POC).
Seems like a habit of yours to assume things so that they fit your thought. --> " victimized ethnicity representative here," You don't even know my ethnicity and nowhere did i clam to be representative, but you automatically assume that I'm not Korean and that I'm against Koreans.
You can continue to reply and create issues to amuse your own ego, but I can't baby down to interact with someone who doesn't have a complete grasp on the world or even on their own language.
So, you believe a few, very loud internet attention seekers present a representative cross-section of Indian/Indonesian…
For real. I feel that the ppl supporting mbc and korea on their deliberately offensive antics are just making excuses for themselves. They're desire for entertainment is more important to them than having proper morals and courage to speak out against injustices.
Half of them are selfish and only have a mouth to speak when it comes to their own community's "miseries," and the other half are even more degraded and care only about themselves; neglecting even their friends when required.
Ignoring the small trash talkers is best though. There's too many ignorant pigeons out there - we can't train them all; and definitely can't teach them how to be human.
The second gif, he walks away himself no one intercepts them.
Besides repeating your "one time stamp" you have no other response; nor any abilities to take critique of your argument. I won't respond to any further comments from you, I fear you may burst a vessel trying to scream through your phone.
I legit said you gave us one time stamp. Did you not read that or didn't comprehend it?
What do subtitles have to do with anything? (perhaps your racist self is assuming my cultural background and language abilities).
S3,1 56:47 (He talks to ZLH, but Bai Yu, YN and Reba all jump in to compliment him - again there's no need to but they did)
57: YN pats him on the back during a joke
58:26: Reba sits down next to him even though she was standing b/w ZLH and YN initially- ZLH even moves to the side instead of cutting b/w Reba and him like you keep claiming the group does. If it's really a concern, he should've stayed where he was and kept her away from him).
59: They also continue teasing him in jokes but also encourage him by voting for him.
1:02:19-21: Reba votes for him, ZLH makes a joke with him not at him
And the time stamp you're talking about, he's most likely stretching his tongue or jaw- many people do that after smiling for too long to relieve the tension in the jaw.
Conclusion: You're either an obsessive hater, or this is some extremist method to promote him lol
I replied because I genuinely wanted more proof shots that show any oddities in his behaviour (because if true, I wouldn't want to watch him), but you're just acting overly-defensive and lashing out your own personality issues. Like, everyone's asking for a few time-stamps, but you gave one, and 4 vague gifs. Even with the sitting position and tongue gif "showing his creep persona," the other two don't show anything. SO you technically gave 2 out-of-context gifs and one time-stamp.
Seems like asking for proper evidence instead of random out-of-context snippets and ONE timestamp, is "asking too much" for you. Do you expect everyone to re-watch all the seasons minute by minute to over analyze his every move and expression? (i.e. you saying he looks possessed and weird at reba just because of the camera angle- also he's clearly looking at Yiuning in the gif you provided; or the group looking serious even though they're trying to solve a case during that scene??). You keep mentioning that you'll give time stamps and create a collection of the gifs, but you make 1-2 sec gifs that don't show the whole context, so obviously no one will believe your accusations.
If you really want to look into it, then why don't you resolve all the times they laugh and chat with each other- particularly when they go up to him for a joke or chat? I doubt they're so "kind" that they would rather go up to a pervert/harasser to make jokes than keep a distance from someone who doesn't respect their friend, especially in behind the scenes footage.
At least drop the episode numbers and time stamps so people can go back to review the "incidents" you claim.
https://youtube.com/shorts/4WkoXuWYvNg?si=L4fEaB9Rc5ILGPMI
This is from the latter episodes of S3, so if she really was uncomfortable with him why would she act casually like a friend? She didn't need to reach out to him, she could distance herself, and others could come in b/w them like you claim they've been doing t/o the seasons??
(1) The directing is terrible making the show look, at times, like a draft instead of the final cut; The stage is high-quality but the scenes don't connect smoothly, or stir emotions. Like it's just moving scene to scene with a very quick explanation and no depth. (Ex. the atmosphere set in the first 2 seconds is wiped out abruptly in the next 2 seconds. I feel like the director just wanted to use this show as a test for some "new tricks and camera angles"; we legit got ML "making an entrance" like four different times as if we didn't know it was him... --> I fr thought this was a show directing by a newbie director....
(2) the main love line has no base (it just happens and we don't see them develop true affections at all; "they're just in love cause they're the main couple" (actually some random toxicity too - i know some people like angst, but this is not it).
Overall, a let down, but you could binge it since most eps are out if you are desperately looking for something to kill time.
"Disclaimer: I actually have multiple personalities and they write things on this site without my will or consent or even memory, don't quote me by the things I've said or things I've done."
In case one of your ignorant personalities is typing this, I will not further engage, in case it stresses out the normal personalities.
And while you're at it, find me a medal that looks extremely close to it and could supposedly be the one in the picture.
BTW, you can also see a circle under the emperor's medal which probably is the swastika circle on the original nazi medal. So yeah, it def is that medal.
Also, you can't just claim that censoring a cross is worse than censoring the swastika (are you claiming one religion is more superior than an other in value??).
Besides, the reason people are having issues with the medal isn't because of the cross, but the VERY close resemblance to the nazi medal which includes the cross shape and eagle, and from the picture it can easily be mistaken for that medal as the picture isn't clear enough (like add the swastika under the eagle and it's literally that medal). However, even if the image was clear enough to negate that resemblance, there are SO MANY OTHER medals that look VERY different which they could have used to prevent the misunderstanding, especially with the political scape nowadays. Trying to make it seem like they're censoring the cross is such an overhead shot I really can't think of any normal person thinking in that manner, yet that's all that came to your mind. smh.
Even other cross pattee medals; practically all of them look different to this one. Like seriously, if you don't know about medals just search them up and you'll find that a hefty majority of them look nothing like the nazi medal and you'd have to really search to find one that resembles the nazi medal. EVEN the ribbon colour and medal colour are the same, the only think missing is a small swastika underneath (if that's even missing since the picture's too small to see clearly).
So, your conviction doesn't hold any strength and instead seems to be propelled by only your narrow mind and ego. The only reason it appears you commented is because of own arrogance despite being ignorant about cultures, politics, or war medals.
I possess your body and your face"
It seems like a random song, but mentions of specific timings midnight to 3am (which by the way is ox hour, a time frame known in many cultures for "cursing rituals")....
There's also mentions of "butterfly markings" and "screaming cats" which i'm not sure represent what if anything, but may be leading clues.
It's obvious that they're exploiting the mental health allegations and ruling everything as su*cide because they know, no one will or can question it since it's common for the entertainment industry to have mental health issues.
you can see the lyrics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LI-7Fz7Rw
Some articles to read more up on it:
https://www.visiontimes.com/2025/10/20/inside-the-yu-menglong-conspiracy-storm-why-chinas-internet-turns-tragedy-into-myth.html
https://www.indiaforums.com/article/yu-menglong-death-netizens-question-former-celebrity-deaths-from-same-agency-as-eternal-love-star_228030
https://celeb.weeknews247.com/nganhatw/a-perverted-artist-rituals-a-basement-and-the-798-crime-exhibition-center-exposed-the-remains-of-qiao-renliang-yu-menglong-and-the-most-handsome-monk-of-the-shaolin-temple-are-all-here-nh/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNjXP1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFIaHUxWWhEVTVVTm1NampzAR7fnhc250g_udAhhmDGf7QXmwA3hWD0J8VaWqNMX3QQq8If8cjaz2FO6V-3aQ_aem_RMEIDqyT33Tkjp0pZFAgEg
One of the "art sculptures" of the martial artist Qiu Feng was inside - he died August (8) 7th (78)
YML died sep 11 at age of 37 --> 7 from 37 and 9 from month of sep. (79)
Qiao Renliang died Sep 16 --> 9 from sep and 16 being a factor of 8 (98)
They also allegedly found robes marked with Shaolin seals inside the museum basement, so i suspect the monk was targeted too.
This might all be "overthinking" but at this point everything is suspicious. And like CCP owned the 798 factory before it was turned into "an art museum." And since they're doing cult things, I think they truly have some obsession with the numbers. We can't know the whole thing unless more evidence shows up, but i think it's too suspicious.
A1: I'm talking about this rep, but also mentioning examples of how middle east and south asian cultures have been repeatedly blasphemed by South Korea previously, so MBC can't play the ignorant card. It's done so often, there's no way MBC didn't know the offense it could cause.
Q2: " Are Koreans or East Asian not allowed to wear costumes or play Princess Jasmine (a White Disney created character) --> A2: Wearing a costume of a character is different than making up some "costume" based on a mixture of cultures and religions. I.e. the "Arabian clothes" mixed with the Hindu Tikka. --> Ex. Dressing up as Storm from Xmen is okay, but imagine if the creator of the character had decided to show Storm in what "they think" African clothing/symbols should look like and then mixed a bunch of different African cultures, and even added Other cultural symbols into it? I doubt people would think it's fine, so why is it "fine" here?
Q2 (cont.): " especially when Arab and India are such heavy consumers of (and haters of) kpop and k content and there is such a high fetishization of Asian women?"
A2: The world itself is a heavy consumer and hater of k content, it's not just India or Middle East, so specifically mentioning them in that context doesn't support the argument at all. However, even if you take that as a valid support, surely you know that just because one group is doing something wrong, doesn't mean that another group doing the same thing against them is right. --> Ex. Racism from Korea towards the "Black community" doesn't give the "Black community" a right to be racist towards Koreans, and it doesn't make the action "right" either.
Q3: " the power differential of Arab countries being able to buy and pay for k pop stars to play at parties or Indian to hire Soo bin for would then also be really problematic."
A4: Hiring someone to perform as part of their job is fine unless the job goes against moral principles or mocks the person and their community. Any country can pay artists to perform their proper jobs, but asking A to dress up in what they ASSUME B's cultural clothing is, is not right. That's where it gets problematic. Ex. America can pay BTS to perform, but if they have BTS performing in a mashup of Jewish symbols and German clothing, and then passing it off as a "light joke" or playing ignorance on the culture they chose to dress in without having proper research on the attire doesn't make anything excusable. Also, in that case if a German or Jewish community was offended, do you really think you have the right to over ride their group's beliefs and tell them that they're overreacting just because you yourself find it okay?
Even more problematic, when the cultures/religions being mashed up are done specifically for humor purposes every time and have stereotypically exaggerated performances. The "dance" and music, genie etc. are all exaggerated stereotypes in the ad. You never see proper Indian attire and dance or Arab dance/attire shown in k content. It's always some random moves that were labelled as Indian or Arab, and the outfits are always some sort of belly dancing attire, which doesn't even represent the cultures themselves. --> That's like every time an American is shown in k content, they should be dressed as cowboys and sing Cotton Eyed Joe, and not one serious and real example of an American in all of its media. OR every time a black culture is mentioned, it's only some stereotypical African imagery being shown with what they assume to be "African dance."
That should be enough for anyone to understand, but if you still think it's just a joke and the world's over reacting then that's your issue, and no one can make you learn.
I'm clearly talking about the demeaning supporters of the ad, and didn't even mention Koreans. You're American, but can't comprehend your own language? Stop trying to make it seem like your woke and anti-racist, while gas lighting others (especially POC).
Seems like a habit of yours to assume things so that they fit your thought. --> " victimized ethnicity representative here," You don't even know my ethnicity and nowhere did i clam to be representative, but you automatically assume that I'm not Korean and that I'm against Koreans.
You can continue to reply and create issues to amuse your own ego, but I can't baby down to interact with someone who doesn't have a complete grasp on the world or even on their own language.
Half of them are selfish and only have a mouth to speak when it comes to their own community's "miseries," and the other half are even more degraded and care only about themselves; neglecting even their friends when required.
Ignoring the small trash talkers is best though. There's too many ignorant pigeons out there - we can't train them all; and definitely can't teach them how to be human.