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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 18, 2020
Title Qin Dynasty Epic Spoiler
I am really sad to see the old rascal go and quite touched by Ying Zheng's lingering regard for him although this…
but didn't Liu Bang started as a peasant? there's fair few peasant revolutions I think? idk what's up with the peasants defending him, it was just weird, i guess it's to show he's beloved or something? but he's not known as a beloved king???
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Replying to ChineseDramaFan Dec 18, 2020
Title Qin Dynasty Epic Spoiler
unification begins.
it's actually a battle from 238 BC, and the first kingdom conquered will take another 8 years. god this pacing worries me. i'm sure times will fly when they start conquering......but i was hoping that'd be focus instead of.....lao ai.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 18, 2020
Rumour has it Lao Ai was gifted to Zhao Ji because he had a big *ahem*. Big enough that he could put it into wheels…
my chinese history is super basic, i agree after this, it's all *side eyes*. he's the primary source for basically everything pre-Han though, since there's not much other comprehensive record that survived through the ages. You only gets bits and pieces here and there not that's not influenced by him.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 18, 2020
Heian period is like 1000 years later though. The Qin hairstyle and some of the costumes are reconstructions from…
omg no!! oh you reminded me, i saw some terracotta army themed room, and it had like....mini figurines lined on bottom of the bed, and you have big ones staring at you as well, it seemed really terrifying???

omg i didn't know about the thumb snapping news! ouch, 2000 year old priceless artifact, damn.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 18, 2020
I have the impression that it was a rather small scale, pathetic attempt. Are they over-dramatising it here?
it's getting slammed and mocked on c!net/douban lol. ratings have been going up really slowly for some reason, either people belatedly realised this was a thing, or all the stuff netizens hate are drawing tv audience in.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 17, 2020
Rumour has it Lao Ai was gifted to Zhao Ji because he had a big *ahem*. Big enough that he could put it into wheels…
omg there's even a comic, i'm dying. also sima qian, you are a professional, pls be serious. I get the skeptics, I'm skeptical too, but the fact that this made it to proper serious records of history makes it so much funnier, i thought it was 野史, lots of rumours and lies mixed in with bit of truth, but no, it's part of proper history.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 17, 2020
Heian period is like 1000 years later though. The Qin hairstyle and some of the costumes are reconstructions from…
they totally sell them, i think there's even chibi version of terracotta lol, you can even buy them online i'm sure. but the point of memorabilia is bringing back memories so XD
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 17, 2020
This is a very accessible book that you can consider:https://www.amazon.com/Early-Chinese-Empires-History-Imperial/dp/0674057341/ref=sr_1_1?crid=N54XTCAZCXQK&dchild=1&keywords=the+early+chinese+empires+qin+and+han&qid=1608173984&sprefix=qin+and+han%2Caps%2C361&sr=8-1
Your casual cnetizen that likes history tend to just bring out Sima Qian's Shi Ji LOL, sometimes they'll bring up other texts to supplement, but it's rarely anything modern. I saw bunch of people pull them out when they were arguing in Qin Empire 2 if Zhang Yi (Qin's chancellor) and Su Qin were the same age (the novels assume so, actual historical records are more debatable, Su Qin appears in 3 for this series)
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 17, 2020
Title Qin Dynasty Epic Spoiler
I have the impression that it was a rather small scale, pathetic attempt. Are they over-dramatising it here?
i think i remember someone zhihu saying this drama is bizzarely western at its core, i guess it's all the manufactured drama for "underdog" going against all odds, when ying zheng and qin isn't quite an underdog, at least not the way the drama is going at it. I don't really agree, since china have those stories too, but bits of it seems to make sense.

LMAO first gigolo of china is SUCH a great title. for the other states, you have to watch the previous two installments, the first one had a powerful wei which is kind of neat, since wei is a so wimpy here. This Han is different from the later Han! Liu Bang is was born in in Xuzhou, so mhm Chu? Qi? idk. For Liu Bang to play a central role, it has to be one of those end of Qin/start of Chu dramas 楚汉争霸 or something. The climax is probably still unifying, but I'm doubting this drama a lot.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 17, 2020
thanks for saving me the dilemma where to complain OMG LAO AI please die already. there's no reason your arc would…
omg i didn't know that, that's horrifying!
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Replying to mangoapricot Dec 17, 2020
Thanks for letting me know there's hope. I'm on ep 24 and it's starting to turn into a regular romance drama instead…
The romance doesn't last long (the few ep you see are the only bits), but Lao Ai does, so buckle up.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 17, 2020
Title Qin Dynasty Epic Spoiler
I have the impression that it was a rather small scale, pathetic attempt. Are they over-dramatising it here?
yes i think? ying zheng apparently just had 3000 people hidden and ambushed them and it was all done. I think the drama is trying to play it as "using lao ai to kick lv buwei off" but it just came off dumb. I just thought the entire rebellion was really over the top, and once again making li si and ying zheng more stupid than they should be. they had 'plans", and so many people died to save fu su, are you for real? they had plans and regular people had to rush to save their kings? really? ying zheng, you literally hung a bloody sword above the guy, could have spared me 5 ep of torture! also wtf was with that plot anyways???? he just backed out??????? i have so many questions.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 16, 2020
Rumour has it Lao Ai was gifted to Zhao Ji because he had a big *ahem*. Big enough that he could put it into wheels…
if you google lao ai in chinese, it has the wheel thing as suggested search, I tried using bing, and it's hilariously blatant questions.
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Replying to WandereR Dec 16, 2020
Yes, that's a great idea. I love it here, let's not move!
he does think too highly of himself, maybe Li Si is meant to be arrogant? I think the issue is, if you can show me your abilities/talents, i'd take arrogance, but so far it's all talk and nothing, or all talk and lot of mess, which is g r e a t.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 16, 2020
Title Qin Dynasty Epic Spoiler
Stuff the drama doesn't tell you but cnetizens might pick up (not really spoilers, just interesting trivia of…
Rumour has it Lao Ai was gifted to Zhao Ji because he had a big *ahem*. Big enough that he could put it into wheels and spin them. so u know that awkward juggling scene at his introduction, lot of people took it as euphemism for this.

Lord Long Yang is a lover of the previous Wei King, who died in 238 BC, so a couple years before he appeared in this drama. People remember him because one of the phrases/euphemism for gay (especially in historicals) is lit "long yang hobby/kink" (long yang zhi hao/long yang zhi pi), there's like two other phrases like this (duan xiu/fen tao)

Story has it that one day, Wei King and him went fishing, Lord Long Yang started crying after catching 10+ fish, he was really happy at first, but as he fished bigger fish, he'd throw away the smaller ones. He's afraid that the king will do the same to him since there's lots of pretty people in the world. In order to comfort him, the King ordered no one should talk about pretty people or they shall be executed.
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On Qin Dynasty Epic Dec 16, 2020
Stuff the drama doesn't tell you but cnetizens might pick up (not really spoilers, just interesting trivia of sort?) re; Lao Ai (ep 20+) & Lord Long Yang (Wei, super minor character, he's usually talking to the Wei King, ep 30+?)
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 16, 2020
thanks for saving me the dilemma where to complain OMG LAO AI please die already. there's no reason your arc would…
he got 五马分尸 so i guess he did lol.
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Replying to CeeVieAre Dec 16, 2020
There is no way I can fully understand without English subs. Good to watch to learn more about Qin dynasty history.…
Heian period is like 1000 years later though. The Qin hairstyle and some of the costumes are reconstructions from the terracotta armies.
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Replying to DarkZone Dec 16, 2020
(there is a spoiler for ep 41) Do you know where can I read more about Ying Xi (Lord Weiyang of Qin). I tried…
He's a real person but didn't do anything of note to leave much behind, so the character is basically fictional. I was interested in him too, but couldn't find anything. (instead I found bunch of minor characters that's just casually dropped in all have wiki pages lol)
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 16, 2020
There's no reason Lao Ai would get this much time, *complains loudly over and over again* He's not Lv Buwei, I'd…
Yeah that one. if Disguiser isn't grabbing you, that's fine IMO, I liked it for everyone else + production team. MCS is def iconic role for Hu Ge, i did watch him in two Chinese Paladin, which is also fairly iconic for him.
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