Whats the difference between five horse drawn pull vs five cow drawn pull , i guess difference lies in their gallop…
It's the same thing I think, it was cows first then horses, i think cos horses were more precious then? so i guess they might be used in battles more (?). The term (che lie) used is lit "cart pulled" so it doesn't specify what animal, the modern Chinese term reference horses (wu ma fen shi, five horse separate corpse). As a side note, from a cursory search, it seems that "che lie" could be something else entirely (could be run you over with a cart?).
Do I need to watch Qin Empire 1,2 and 3 before watching this? Am planning to watch everything in the beginning…
No. they are about different people, the directors and tone/focus are different too. I think only 2 is subbed on netflix, 2 & 3 was filmed back to back and share same director/writer. So if this doesn't click for you, I'd rec trying 2. If you don't need subs then pick whatever you want or start from the beginning. The relationship between them are 1: Ying Qu Liang, 2; 1's son, 3; 2's son, 4: 3's great grandson.
Nah, Zhao Ji returned, just like in the drama after Mao Jiao's comment, but it wasn't a dramatic return. and historically she became irrelevant to the court.
You guys were right, Lao Ai story arc goes on way too long. I'm on ep 45 now and he is still alive. It will be…
Don't worry, the arc is almost over! Yeah idk why they just left Fu Su behind, it seems really really dumb. Maybe they thought it'd go better if there's a "bait"? I think the drama was going they thought they were well prepared but they weren't.
That he just went and died just like that... I was hoping for some kind of showdown, his head on a skewer, him…
Wang Jian struggled quite a bit against the Zhao army even after Zhao Yan's death, but the drama didn't really show that. They seem to be focused on other stuff instead, really trying to sell that benevolent Ying Zheng image here, ehhh.
That he just went and died just like that... I was hoping for some kind of showdown, his head on a skewer, him…
You are cruel!! hahahaha. I'm kind of mad he died like that, since it felt kind of unnecessary. I'm starting suspect the writer have some kind fetish for brother-in-law and wife combo *squints*. I mean, sure, Zhao Yan's brother and his wife had affair, but that was AFTER Zhao yan died, also Ying Xi is entirely fictional so mhmmmmm.
I guess him visiting Qin was his final showdown, I did like that bit. Can I just say Zhao Yan's actor look so much better than Ying Zheng's, even the way he holds himself sometimes. *sighs for the nth time*
Fantastic review as always :D Now I feel less guilty for not writing a review haha. i think they were trying to do what Horizon Tower was doing in the beginning, intentionally misleading the audience for gotcha moment, some of it is flipping the situation again and again to draw in audience, some of it i think might have been attempt for some people to realise their presumptions?
Qiao Wei can definitely be frustrating, but she's also depressingly real in, so many ladies have appalling taste in men and keep excusing their absymal behaviour LOL. I'm glad she learnt to stand up for herself and be independent. The supportive female friendship is definitely my favourite part of the drama, it's fairly rare in cdrama so I'm always super happy to see it, especially when it's central part of the drama.
On me being a drama encyclopedia, hahaha that's such huge shoes to fill in, I only started regularly watch cdrama after NiF. I basically stroll douban's recent cdrama section every now and then, for 7+ dramas, and I have a backlog of 8+ ones. Qin Empire was recced to me by my mum & cos it's 9+ & because I always found the period really confusing LOL.
@WandereR: I actually only watched...let me see, three new historical this year? LOL I watched a handful of old ones (some are rewatch), which is continuation of me watching serious historical to familiarise myself with certain period of history. I watched SO many modern dramas this year (probably 20+)! My preference is a little weird though, my higher rated dramas tend to have romance as a side thing, which is opposite of MDL's preference, so it's all srs historical + mystery + youth dramas. which reminds me I need to update my list, I was going to write reviews for some....now I can't be bother to even do short comment reviews on douban oops.
i don't think 1 is subbed either? i guess they thought there's not much demand for it? 3 is easier to translate…
I have no idea why they didn't license it for hk, utterly bizzare, and it's too old/too little demand for pirate upload too. By the way, if you can't get into 1, you can try 2, it took me ages to get into 1, and I was super taken back by the huge change in 2 LOL.
I love this but why is Qin Empire 3 not subbed? :o
i don't think 1 is subbed either? i guess they thought there's not much demand for it? 3 is easier to translate compared to 2, 1 is probably the hardest.
Rumour has it Lao Ai was gifted to Zhao Ji because he had a big *ahem*. Big enough that he could put it into wheels…
i didn't know they made a series for three musketeers, thanks! I watched a movie adaptation I think? I watched an rather interesting anime version of monte cristo too. Both books were too long and intimidating for me to start lol, they've been sitting in my kindle since forever. thank you for the rec :D
Yeah it's set up. he's been yelling about unification for most of the drama though, and he mentioned some of the things he'd do once he unify. but i specify the date because i really dislike the pacing of the drama, that's a third of the drama left, and they just started, and there's bunch of other things i know they'll spend their time on, AND it's nowhere close to 230 BC is just real rough. there's leaked synopsis for rest of the episodes, and it doesn't seem like we'd get much after the unification, which is really disappointing.
This is a very accessible book that you can consider:https://www.amazon.com/Early-Chinese-Empires-History-Imperial/dp/0674057341/ref=sr_1_1?crid=N54XTCAZCXQK&dchild=1&keywords=the+early+chinese+empires+qin+and+han&qid=1608173984&sprefix=qin+and+han%2Caps%2C361&sr=8-1
Shi Ji is primary source a lot of times regardless, zhihu or certain circles will have people debate how bias Sima Qian or whatever source is, most people are looking for just quick info rather than indepth discussion though.
:D I'm glad someone read the review and liked it! I have gazillion complaints about this drama (...and most other dramas), but I'm glad it's probably going to get some people to check out other installments of Qin Empire.
I have the impression that it was a rather small scale, pathetic attempt. Are they over-dramatising it here?
Yeah his plot was to get Lao Ai to rebel so he could strip Lv Buwei's power, but the entire arc lasted too long and isn't as cleverly written as the writer seem to think, so just killing him would have been easier.
Hanging a bloody sword over him is a weird way to terrify him though, I thought the scene when he first find out about the kids and he pulled out his own sword was effective enough. The sword over the bed just made him seem little deranged. Usually to push people, you just hire assassins or something.
Hahaha, welcome to the bandwagon of the "complaint" of little boy in old man's body and voice. Yes, that's the…
I'm the opposite, I usually want as little romance as possible unless it's a romance drama, because dramas tend to be better written that way LOL. A lot of writers end up really soapy when they start writing women or romance.
The casting is bane of my existence, but casting in cdrama is bane of my existence half the time, the scriptwriters bombing themselves is the other half. I really think they could have kept the teenager till ep 20, even then protag is too old looking for his age, but at least he's not THIERTEEN!
I am really sad to see the old rascal go and quite touched by Ying Zheng's lingering regard for him although this…
oh yeah one of his achievement (at the time) is consolidating power to the king. I guess because it was early stages of reform, peasants could still grab whatever they have (they don't have proper weapons unless they were given them i think?) to defend? it does seem kind of two step forward, one step backward?
they are trying to glorify him, and show him as benevolent and probably justify the more problematic bits, but it feels wrong to me. I don't need Ying Zheng to be nice and beloved, even if you show his reign as a tyranny, it doesn't diminish his achievements. also i think the writers are overestimating their ability. OR well, the original script was decent (the first part was published years ago) at getting benevolent message across, but the adapted version we have now isn't quite working for me as the writers intended.
I was waiting for the kids bit to drop, but didn't fully expect them to show onscreen tbh, just at most, Ying Zheng ordering someone or gesturing and got them taken away, totally fine we didn't get it though. I watch with danmu (danmuku, rolling comments?? what do you call them in english?), and it's all "are we dropping kids today?' every ep, which sounds terrifying out of context LOL.
I guess him visiting Qin was his final showdown, I did like that bit. Can I just say Zhao Yan's actor look so much better than Ying Zheng's, even the way he holds himself sometimes. *sighs for the nth time*
Qiao Wei can definitely be frustrating, but she's also depressingly real in, so many ladies have appalling taste in men and keep excusing their absymal behaviour LOL. I'm glad she learnt to stand up for herself and be independent. The supportive female friendship is definitely my favourite part of the drama, it's fairly rare in cdrama so I'm always super happy to see it, especially when it's central part of the drama.
On me being a drama encyclopedia, hahaha that's such huge shoes to fill in, I only started regularly watch cdrama after NiF. I basically stroll douban's recent cdrama section every now and then, for 7+ dramas, and I have a backlog of 8+ ones. Qin Empire was recced to me by my mum & cos it's 9+ & because I always found the period really confusing LOL.
@WandereR: I actually only watched...let me see, three new historical this year? LOL I watched a handful of old ones (some are rewatch), which is continuation of me watching serious historical to familiarise myself with certain period of history. I watched SO many modern dramas this year (probably 20+)! My preference is a little weird though, my higher rated dramas tend to have romance as a side thing, which is opposite of MDL's preference, so it's all srs historical + mystery + youth dramas. which reminds me I need to update my list, I was going to write reviews for some....now I can't be bother to even do short comment reviews on douban oops.
:D I'm glad someone read the review and liked it! I have gazillion complaints about this drama (...and most other dramas), but I'm glad it's probably going to get some people to check out other installments of Qin Empire.
Hanging a bloody sword over him is a weird way to terrify him though, I thought the scene when he first find out about the kids and he pulled out his own sword was effective enough. The sword over the bed just made him seem little deranged. Usually to push people, you just hire assassins or something.
The casting is bane of my existence, but casting in cdrama is bane of my existence half the time, the scriptwriters bombing themselves is the other half. I really think they could have kept the teenager till ep 20, even then protag is too old looking for his age, but at least he's not THIERTEEN!
they are trying to glorify him, and show him as benevolent and probably justify the more problematic bits, but it feels wrong to me. I don't need Ying Zheng to be nice and beloved, even if you show his reign as a tyranny, it doesn't diminish his achievements. also i think the writers are overestimating their ability. OR well, the original script was decent (the first part was published years ago) at getting benevolent message across, but the adapted version we have now isn't quite working for me as the writers intended.
I was waiting for the kids bit to drop, but didn't fully expect them to show onscreen tbh, just at most, Ying Zheng ordering someone or gesturing and got them taken away, totally fine we didn't get it though. I watch with danmu (danmuku, rolling comments?? what do you call them in english?), and it's all "are we dropping kids today?' every ep, which sounds terrifying out of context LOL.