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Finished the drama and I get why people are saying this is a Masterpiece. There are still plot holes however and to catch the story better is to read the novel and/or rewatch the drama again (for canon and non-canon parts)

Even though it's not related to the plot universe, but there are Seven Deadly Sins identified in the plot of the series in the order of Death.

Greed: Wen Ruohan - Already at the highest position among the Clans but still desire for immoral powers to be of "higher position in control".

Pride: Wei Wu Xian seemingly in the eyes of "everyone", but actually is Jiang Chen - Killed Main Character once since he is easily swayed by the words of others despite knowing he is a lesser person compared to WWX in terms of everything they do, blinded by ego and refusing to believe his childhood friend compared to all the other unrelated people whom he barely knew. The Pride of MC also partially contributed to kill WWX himself since he was led to be the scapegoat of all, if not most "crimes", being overly confident of his own creation. Placed 2nd because MC "died" even though JC didn't.

Lust: Jin Guang Shan - Ultimately created a villain on his own terms whom killed JGS himself. Also played the role of the next Greed after WRH, for similar reasons but with different methods.

Gluttony: Xue Yang - Root of Evil started from not being able to eat Sweets/Candies due to his background. Was mistreated and ultimately evolved to seek vengeance for anything/anyone that are related to Xiao Xing Chen (whom also coincidentally has some form of relations to the Yueyang Chang Clan whom mistreated XY and not giving him the food they "promised").

Envy: Su She - Covet over the things and qualities that Lan Wang Ji has. Eventually assisted Wrath on his goals because they have similar backgrounds while Wrath can remember SS's name.

Wrath: Jin Guang Yao aka Meng Yao - kills everyone eventually whom calls him "Son of a Whore" (+ anything related) and everyone (not on his side) whom knows his secret so that he can hide his secrets. On the contrary, he does care for those whom doesn't belittle him for his background and/or status such as Lan Xi Chen.

Sloth: Nie Huai Sang - Having been responsible for nothing serious until brother Nie Ming Jue's death which then became his wake up call. Have been doing things rather carefreely despite being intelligent but not utilising that intelligence when needed until wanting to find whom kill and dismember his brother to seek "vengeance". Prevention would have been the key as if he knew, and when things are already late then want to find the truth. In the process of truth pays the price of sacrifice of others without laying his own hands dirty. The mastermind of resurrection whom also starts to kill for revenge, but not at his own hands. Master of Pretence. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Can you also pray that homophobia/political China die faster?

Good to hear! I was hoping he's not a bad guy and thankfully he remain good till the very end.

Then my guess is Su She. Originally from Lan Clan then kinda betray them and start his own section. This kind of behavior sure call for a second time to be a villain, I think?

I remember LXC in the early episodes can use a powerful Flute to appease the "Water Ghost" then after that somehow stop seeing him using it. Is he the actual Mastermind?

From clans that use Music in battle, mainly is the Lan Clan. I know Wen Qing also can use, but that's only that one time and in storyline she should be dead and it's unlikely to be her also.

MXY raise WWX? Since when? In the flashback since he was a young kid after being adopted by Jiang Leader, he was raised by Jiang Leader right? I didn't catch where MXY was in the flashback storyline only until the current timeline when he was resurrected by MXY (by exchanging his own life)

Finished Ep 33, will wait to see what exactly happened to Wen Ning despite the story so far claiming he has been burned and turn to ashes

Q1. Saw someone controlling a power similar to WWX at the "war" arc, but somehow seems to be stronger than WWX since his flute manage to control and override WWX power

Is that Xue Yang or Meng Yao? Why do I think it's Meng Yao since previously when he use a sword to stab, the sword is bendable. Seems like he also wasn't able to wield a sword properly like WWX after cultivating the Flute power

Q2. So based on this observation, it was also the same person that control Wen Ning on the background to kill JZX. The motive very clear seem like Meng Yao's doing.


And if I get correctly from verbal presentation,
LWJ was punished for 3 years since he aided WWX back then but WWX didn't realise why he was punished. After his punishment then he went to try to find WWX body, right?

Did this Villain know WWX will return? Why the wicked power surface once again only after he is back? And it's 16 years timeline.

Ah I see, thank you

Cause in the drama when they said Yin Iron were destroyed, they never mentioned destroyed by WWX iirc, it sounded like the clans work together to destroy it as Jin leader took over Wen's position since Nie Leader didn't want that position. Also, like what you said regarding that Yin Iron not being part of the original story, so adding to the adaptation may have "lost" a little bit of the plot and since Wen Ruohan is no longer around, that Yin Iron is no longer relevant to that canon side of the story.

Another spoiler question that I would like to ask is how come Wen Ning's body as Ghost General still around 16 years after he died when Wen Qing and Wen Ning supposed to have been killed as sentence of the "crime"?

Pardon me, I may have taken the story very seriously for visual plot that I may have missed from verbal presentation since I catch and remember better from visual scenes than from script lines 😅

Thank you so much again, your explanation make me understand the plot better

It's just weird why the past generation split the Yin Iron into 4 as if it cannot be destroyed then the current generation literally just destroy it like it doesn't matter 😅

I suppose his Yin Tiger Amulet is stronger because it was from the very same weapon that stop the previous Yin Iron user and that fake Xuanwu creature?

1. Xue Yang disappeared mysteriously without a sound, he has the lust to kill people so it's out of character, even with time skip of 1 month and 1 year he made no sound. what exactly happened to him?

2. Meng Yao is the true culprit that release Xue Yang right? Despite claiming it's the general whom Nie Leader saw Yao stabbing

3. Meng Yao suddenly become Jin Guang Yao, where Leader Jin says Yao is his long lost son. But still have some distrust etc. to Yao. Like how did they know they are related and why?

4. The last Yin Iron actually is with Meng Yao's, right?

Thanks

Finished Episode 30, would like to ask for spoilers

Thank you!

Last question, then what about the one Wen soldier pass to Wen Ruohan when reporting Wen Chao's death while holding that sword?

That one look like the Xuanwu's

So basically despite hearing previously that WWX was thrown into Buried Mounds but since he came back safe and sound, did Jiang Cheng actually forgot about it and choose to believe WWX words?

Yeah I have seen that Tiger Tally, the same sword that went to Wen Ruohan's hand become useless already?

And how did he come back with a Flute?

And sorry if I may have missed something but I also want to clarify: he went to buried mounds without a sword. There was a sword there, what's that sword?

He came back, Jiang Cheng passed him that Xuanwu sword right? Then he leave it at Wen Chao area, so he made the Tiger Tally prior to being thrown down to Buried Mounds?

Apologies

Thank you, your key point is verbally presented. At least I know what to expect from now.

I catch visual better than remembering script lines even though I never skip scenes hence that may be why I am missing out alot in detail

Sorry, I might not have watch the appropriate episode yet, I know WWX was thrown to the buried location, but at Episode 21, he hasn't explain to anyone how he escaped, etc

Did I miss something?

The genre mentioned in MDL is Wuxia, maybe that's why I got misconception. I don't read novels also so can only catch story via visual from the drama

Thanks so much, it's not I don't enjoy it, but I may not have catch it since I wanted to be engross and understand what's going on. Perhaps I am more of a visual person, like wanting to see scenes that actually happened

Appreciate it for your explanation than pure debunk on my point just because it's different from the rest

Thanks for explaining, do you read the Novel?

I haven't skip anything yet, just progression wise had weird cuts that I might not catch the story that well yet

I understand what happen to WWX (in terms of dark spiritual power) may be explained later so I didn't mention that point. But I doubt people who died currently will be thrown back to a flashback or what happens later so wanted to ask what's going on partially.

I am not intentionally throwing hate things, but wanted to understand better regarding on the plot and I am grateful you are at least one of those who bother to explain what's going on in terms of my doubt than trying to throw shade just because I commented something that is different from the rest of y'all.

Watched finish ep 21, but honestly there are alot of plot progression holes being weird and unexplained

Wen Clan initially was overpowering and the rest were portrayed to be quite weak then suddenly the Wens become weak and scaredycat. Wen Chao was with hair and face look still fine when Wen Zhuliu brought him to escape Yiling then suddenly the next scene of him is bald and scarred with no explanation of anything

Zewu Jun disappeared for the entire episodes after the Lans were attacked, then suddenly appear again only when the Wens are defeated. Uncle Lan was supposed to be alive hiding in the underneath but nowhere to be seen now.

Edit: Thanks for some people explaining what the plot is about. Seems like explanation of the plot are from script lines rather than having visual scenes of their own for some

Everything is over exaggerated. The relationship are fine, but the Wuxia plot/fight scene are lacking so far.

Maybe cause it's an older drama. I watched something like Who Rules the World previously and the Wuxia fight scenes/plot wasn't that slowmo/weak. Not sure if you can catch what I mean

I mean the Wuxia plot/fighting scenes are kinda weak. The relationship here are OK.

Maybe cause it's an older drama. I watched something like Who Rules the World previously and the Wuxia fight scenes/plot wasn't that slowmo/weak. Not sure if you can catch what I mean

Is the rating high mainly because of the BL between the leads?

I am at Episode 11 and honestly aside from decent acting, I find the plot and fighting scenes are kinda weak. I will watch till the end though, cause BL is my thing

Meng Yao has a villain vibe, so I assume he is the main villain rather than the introduced Wen Ruohan. Seemed too fast when it's only Ep 11 and there's 50 episodes.