It's had a Douban rating of 7.3 from around 11K raters.
In my opinion , deserved a lot more. And a lot more love. I never saw the Korean version so cannot compare, but this drama as a standalone is well paced, with a gripping storyline running through it.
So effortless and so natural. I was worried at the beginning that it would try to pay too much tribute to old HK film/dramas with a 1990s settings. Luckily for me, it didn't feel forced. In the end it was like a very condensed version of The Knock-out simply because it was filmed in one of the Guangdong provinces I suspect.
Stand out performance has to be Nicky Cheung without a doubt, followed closely by Myolie Wu.
This will be my last comment on the matter. The charts and data are put out for everyone to enjoy and also measure where things are. It is not just for fans, it's also for the industry to see who, what, where they can use for future projects. Fans naturally use that as confirmation or gathering info to help know where they are in relation with other stars/dramas/groups.
Platforms are more than happy to see fans telling others how to increase the viewerships because they see or know other fandoms are doing it, which is why I mentioned the treadmill comment. But the rest is choice, and some will also say, fans are also victims of the system around them. I see it cuts both ways. The key bit is choice.
Where the blame lies will never get anywhere. If the industry has chosen profit first and foremost, everything we see now follows suit. The companies know the fans' weaknesses, and they will make sure fandoms do half of their legwork for them for free (promotions, buying products). That is how it works right now. This is all before we even look at the drama quality, the storyline and the performance. It's no longer the content of work but more who's on the project that is priority.
Well, I am not naming which fandoms that do bully other fans within their group by shaming those that are not a good enough fan by not bulk buying enough magazines etc. It's just a small example of how some fandoms work within their group.
But in the end, it's the competition that creates the behaviour within fandoms. Then that feeds the endless cycle of toxic behaviour. Anyway, it's good to hear that HMH fans follow the rule of only defending.
I also appreciate that the main leads have open communication as well as tacit understanding. No unnecessary angst…
No worries. The Demon Hunter's Romance comes highly recommended. Beautifully done with tight plots/cases and overall characters that are impactful to the bigger picture of the drama. It's ranked as my top drama of this year so far.
I don't blame just the fans. As you say, they are much the victims as the star themselves. Maybe I should have been more detailed rather than just talk about fandom alone. Yes, all these companies want to make money in whatever way, from platforms to all these data companies. It is what it is. Whatever the situation, someone will always be there to make money from it.
So long as fans are happy and they spend responsibly for their groups and no one is bullied or pressured into spending, then it's fine. But I have seen shaming and bullying behaviour within fandom groups before, and the unhealthy behaviour towards those that are deemed not to be a good enough fan. Usually relating to ones not spending enough buying magazines etc. There should be an independent group to monitor this sort of behaviour. Just my opinion.
No problem, I have not delved deep into all the stars' background stuff. I was just giving Naksu_aos a bit of background because the word scale was mentioned in the post. Sorry to hear that the agencies are not doing what they are meant to do.
Yes, bigger fandoms will obviously mobilise more & create a bigger buzz. It is unfortunate that nowadays, these types of dramas have become a tool for some fandoms to use as a kind of sport. Rather than sit and just enjoy the star's work, more energy seems to be put into trends, indexes and hashtags.
When more and more fandoms do the same, it turns into an industry in itself 'outside' of the drama. For me, it's a shame as it distracts from the drama and the star. But it is what it is, China is vast, and competition is fierce, so I guess if you don't stay on that treadmill to compete with others, there is fear you'd be lost in mass.
FR. Murong Yao's reasoning for why he resents Feng Suige is one of the dumbest villain origin stories ever. Feng…
Well, if you watch A Dream Within A Dream, you will see the poking fun of many classic plot points throughout the drama. One character played by Wang You Shuo springs to mind though. If there ever was a character so consumed with obsessive hate, with little or no understanding of the bigger picture, the award goes to him. Murong Yao maybe a close second!
Agree. They didn’t make her a likable character, so why are we supposed to care about what happens to her? She…
Because it's clear from the edit, her story is tied to her brother and their emotion bond may play out in slow motion to make ML squirm the most. Also, she's one of those characters that need to be saved because she's has a good heart and cannot help falling in love with someone that clearly has other things on their mind.
BTW, I will take it as a pinch of salt that so many on the forum love to make throwaway comments about this character. I guess this is the barrage culture.
Try having someone in your own family that is actually like that. I am witness to that. It's not as simple as put her down or cast her aside. No doubt the drama will show, blood is thicker from one side.
It just means in China, his character name is ranked number one out of all current airing dramas right now. In China, there is a chart for everything. Most of the heat indexes or charts include chitter chatter/hashtags into the equation which means, most top scores tend to be from a younger group as they tend to be the larger online group which is why you normally will see idol style dramas dominate.
This is why you will see many newer dramas inserting controversial scenes, or scenes they deem would generate discussion and trend. This is normally funny scenes, kissing scenes or even controversy outside of the dramas with one of the stars.
It is through discussion it trends. On top of that, fandom or the dramas also add bought trends to aid with it. It can be a bit complicated if you are not just looking at viewing figures, but stuff outside of just viewing figures.
Interesting comment. I find him too polite to fit into the dynamics of his family. But for the role he is playing, it's fine..
The cast is super and I'm glad he is able to be in this, working with veterans/established actors, and I have not seen such top notch acting for a long while. I'm near the end, but can safely say, this is a gem of a drama. Highly recommend!
Glad am not the only one who shares this exact same sentiment. Director tried to please everyone by giving these…
Ha ha, it took you 9 months to tell me that!
I still stand by it. The drama is disjointed and lacking because the vision is bad on characterisation. You cannot sympathise with the ML's plight because all it shows is the eliteless wins and those that sacrificed are always those that served the most. That would have been OK, but the director made no attempts to make the ML connect with those that mattered most. He was reduced to a loved-brained inward looking individual that did not pay attention to those that mattered most in his cause.
This drama had low budget. So they only using same song repeatedly. They didn't even promote this drama bcs of…
OK, I understand that. Something similar happened to the Xianxia drama The Blossoming Love. They spent so much with the production and CGI they also did not have money left for the promotion when the time came.
They ended up with a much lower viewership. They also had to leave the whole main cast to do the leg-work of promoting the themselves!
This drama had low budget. So they only using same song repeatedly. They didn't even promote this drama bcs of…
I'd love to know all about that. Is this a low budget production? Often I hear the words low budget, but I notice in those dramas, the clothing, hair, background settings are in my mind quite top notch. I'm wondering whether I have really bad taste because those that are deemed "S-Plus" level look tacky and often have bad-looking clothing and CGI.
I've only watched Li Qin in Joy of Life and her acting skills are sooo wasted in that onw dimensional role.
I'm afraid I gave up with Song of Glory half way. I can only remember her channelling her bitchiness to the max. She spent a bit of time slapping people in the face!
I don't get all the dislike and crying regarding the kids. They show up for a couple episodes and aren't vital…
I think it's a handful that whinged about them. Sometimes, this creates a follow the leader behaviour where others just pile in because they 'think' they're also a bit annoying.
Those poor kids are there as others say for effect, a pause from the tension and a bridge between both opposing sides. Also there to make both ML and SML feel a bit jealous of each other when both try to use the kids to be their little buffer. Of course, the end result is both are trying to impress FL.
In my opinion , deserved a lot more. And a lot more love. I never saw the Korean version so cannot compare, but this drama as a standalone is well paced, with a gripping storyline running through it.
So effortless and so natural. I was worried at the beginning that it would try to pay too much tribute to old HK film/dramas with a 1990s settings. Luckily for me, it didn't feel forced. In the end it was like a very condensed version of The Knock-out simply because it was filmed in one of the Guangdong provinces I suspect.
Stand out performance has to be Nicky Cheung without a doubt, followed closely by Myolie Wu.
Platforms are more than happy to see fans telling others how to increase the viewerships because they see or know other fandoms are doing it, which is why I mentioned the treadmill comment. But the rest is choice, and some will also say, fans are also victims of the system around them. I see it cuts both ways. The key bit is choice.
Where the blame lies will never get anywhere. If the industry has chosen profit first and foremost, everything we see now follows suit. The companies know the fans' weaknesses, and they will make sure fandoms do half of their legwork for them for free (promotions, buying products). That is how it works right now. This is all before we even look at the drama quality, the storyline and the performance. It's no longer the content of work but more who's on the project that is priority.
But in the end, it's the competition that creates the behaviour within fandoms. Then that feeds the endless cycle of toxic behaviour. Anyway, it's good to hear that HMH fans follow the rule of only defending.
So long as fans are happy and they spend responsibly for their groups and no one is bullied or pressured into spending, then it's fine. But I have seen shaming and bullying behaviour within fandom groups before, and the unhealthy behaviour towards those that are deemed not to be a good enough fan. Usually relating to ones not spending enough buying magazines etc. There should be an independent group to monitor this sort of behaviour. Just my opinion.
Yes, bigger fandoms will obviously mobilise more & create a bigger buzz. It is unfortunate that nowadays, these types of dramas have become a tool for some fandoms to use as a kind of sport. Rather than sit and just enjoy the star's work, more energy seems to be put into trends, indexes and hashtags.
When more and more fandoms do the same, it turns into an industry in itself 'outside' of the drama. For me, it's a shame as it distracts from the drama and the star. But it is what it is, China is vast, and competition is fierce, so I guess if you don't stay on that treadmill to compete with others, there is fear you'd be lost in mass.
BTW, I will take it as a pinch of salt that so many on the forum love to make throwaway comments about this character. I guess this is the barrage culture.
Try having someone in your own family that is actually like that. I am witness to that. It's not as simple as put her down or cast her aside. No doubt the drama will show, blood is thicker from one side.
This is why you will see many newer dramas inserting controversial scenes, or scenes they deem would generate discussion and trend. This is normally funny scenes, kissing scenes or even controversy outside of the dramas with one of the stars.
It is through discussion it trends. On top of that, fandom or the dramas also add bought trends to aid with it. It can be a bit complicated if you are not just looking at viewing figures, but stuff outside of just viewing figures.
The cast is super and I'm glad he is able to be in this, working with veterans/established actors, and I have not seen such top notch acting for a long while. I'm near the end, but can safely say, this is a gem of a drama. Highly recommend!
I still stand by it. The drama is disjointed and lacking because the vision is bad on characterisation. You cannot sympathise with the ML's plight because all it shows is the eliteless wins and those that sacrificed are always those that served the most. That would have been OK, but the director made no attempts to make the ML connect with those that mattered most. He was reduced to a loved-brained inward looking individual that did not pay attention to those that mattered most in his cause.
They ended up with a much lower viewership. They also had to leave the whole main cast to do the leg-work of promoting the themselves!
Those poor kids are there as others say for effect, a pause from the tension and a bridge between both opposing sides. Also there to make both ML and SML feel a bit jealous of each other when both try to use the kids to be their little buffer. Of course, the end result is both are trying to impress FL.