Actually, it's because he's her friend. Despite agreeing to be on the FL's team, he intentionally joined the other…
It's not by force to like a character or approve of their behavior. Saying that anyone who disagrees with you has illogical reasoning invalidates their opinions.
If you actually went through my comments, you'd see that I never said I didn't understand his point of view. I simply said I don't like his actions, and that's perfectly fine.
Understanding a character's perspective doesn't automatically mean I have to agree with or support their decisions. You can acknowledge that a character was simply insecure and still think they were wrong or dislike the way they handled the situation. Simple.
I don't want to keep repeating myself either, so let's end this here. šš¼
Actually, it's because he's her friend. Despite agreeing to be on the FL's team, he intentionally joined the other…
Or maybe be sensible enough to understand that people are allowed to have different opinions and dislike a character. Try comprehending that first before accusing others of making "logical errors." Not everyone is going to view a character the same way, and that's perfectly normal. You don't have to agree with someone's opinion, but acting as if anyone who dislikes a character is automatically wrong is ridiculous. Calling it a "logical error" doesn't magically invalidate someone else's perspective.
Does friendship mean I have to understand everything about the other person? When people often fail to fully understand…
You're still spot on, but in reality, people can experience the same situation very differently.
In some friend groups, seeing each other as competition can be healthy. It pushes everyone to work harder, improve themselves, and achieve more. You can motivate one another, get into great universities, win awards together, and still remain genuine friends who celebrate each other's successes. In that kind of environment, competition is based on mutual respect, not jealousy.
On the other hand, competition can also become unhealthy. Some people secretly see you as a rival rather than a friend. They may stay close to you because of what they can gain from you while quietly resenting your lifestyle or achievements. Just look at that other girl, despite showing so much bitterness toward the FL, she still went to great lengths to get access to the guidebook the FL had prepared for her own team. That says a lot.
Overall, I personally wouldn't recommend being in a friend group where people constantly see you as someone they have to beat. Healthy friendships are built on support, trust, and wanting the best for one another, not on constantly trying to outdo each other. Competition isn't inherently bad, but when it turns into envy or resentment, it can damage the friendship.
This is relatable because I experienced it. In situations like that, you may eventually find yourself being left out because they assume you'll always be fine or that you don't need help since you're "better" than everyone else. Over time, that creates distance instead of support. A friendship where people are secretly rooting against you or constantly comparing themselves to you isn't a healthy friendship.
Actually, it's because he's her friend. Despite agreeing to be on the FL's team, he intentionally joined the other…
FYI, I never said I didn't understand the ML's point of view. If you actually read and understood what I wrote, you'd see that I wasn't disputing his perspective or his feelings. I understand why he felt the way he did, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize him. Understanding a character's motivations and agreeing with their actions are two completely different things. You can empathize with someone's struggles while still believing they handled a situation poorly.
Also, the other girl, the point is, you see yourself the way you carry yourself. If she sees herself as someone who's always second best, that's how she'll continue to view herself. It's not the FL's fault for being exceptional. Her abilities don't diminish anyone else's worth unless they choose to compare themselves to her. In reality, there will always be people who do things better. Also, I never said she should care about FL because I wasn't expecting her to care in the first place. That was directed at ML who is literally friends with FL and saw the way the girl disrespected and bitter towards her
And lastly, this is different from the comments calling him a red flag. Based on everything he's done so far, I don't see him as a red flag. I simply don't like some of his actions, and that's a valid opinion to have. So if your argument is aimed at people calling him a red flag, then direct it at them, not at me, because that's not the point I was making.
Actually, it's because he's her friend. Despite agreeing to be on the FL's team, he intentionally joined the other…
Firstly, no one is blindly against him. Every viewer has the right to criticize his character if they find his actions distasteful, just like I did. If you also put yourself in the FL's shoes, she was nothing but genuine toward him, while he was secretly struggling with insecurity. Yes, it's just a drama, but in real life, friends who constantly compete with you behind your back and are more focused on beating you don't make great friends.
He's not a loser. The reason he felt inferior was because he wasn't naturally gifted like the FL, who could even take the university entrance exam earlier than everyone else. His goal was to beat her to prove that he was just as capable, but in the end, he realized that defeating her wasn't as meaningful as he had imagined. Saying he thinks he's a loser doesn't even make sense because he's literally one of the top students. His entire motivation revolved around surpassing the FL, not because he lacked ability, but because he compared himself to her.
Back in school, I had a friend group with someone who was more academically gifted than I was, but I never felt insecure. Even though they were exceptionally brilliant, I knew I had my own strengths, and as friends, we supported and helped each other. In fact being their friends was a motivation for me. At the same time, we're all human, so I can understand why someone like the ML would struggle with insecurity or ego and see fl as a competition.
And don't even get me started on the other girl. Yes, she had her own issues, but that didn't give her the right to be rude and resentful toward the FL. She even went out of her way to recruit the other guy into her team so she could gain access to the FL team's guidebook. The FL was right there when she approached the ML to join her team, so he witnessed firsthand how disrespectful she was toward the FL. Despite seeing all of that, he still chose to join her side simply because he wanted to beat the FL.
At the end of the day, people are free to understand the ML's motivations while still criticizing his actions. A character can have understandable reasons for making a decision without that decision being likable, and I think the criticism he's receiving is completely justified.
After watching all the episodes, the people are making a scene about the following point 1. Why did he say RIVAL?…
Actually, it's because he's her friend. Despite agreeing to be on the FL's team, he intentionally joined the other girl's team, even though she was openly rude and bitter toward the FL. His decision was driven by his desire to rival her and prove that he could beat her. He would've won either way if he had joined the FL's team.
The FL practically had no one in that class she could truly call a friend except him. At the same time, if I put myself in his shoes, I can understand his perspective because he's insecure. His motivations make sense, but that doesn't mean viewers can't criticize or dislike him. For me, even after Episode 8, I still find it difficult to warm up to his character because that decision left a bad impression. Hopefully, the rest of the story gives him enough redemption for me to change my opinion.
I still smh over that. You're right. I loved the 'poison' being her specialty and the look on their faces. Brilliant.…
I think it's more of an obsession, I don't think she hated her because she killed her dad but she's obsessed with her and wants to be like her. Probably why she stalked her and hated she has a family
I could be wrong, but I think the husband knows his wife is Kingfisher or is suspecting, which is why he doesn't want to cover the story anymore. If that theory is correct, though, why did he blurt out to his detective friend that Kingfisher might be married and have a child because of the sticker? Knowing the detective would definitely try to put the pieces together.
everyone has their own preferences and opinions. it is normal for people to complain. all of life is like Goldilocks…
You just described personal preference, which is exactly why excessive negative reviews can be misleading. They make it seem universally bad when itās not. Thatās the whole point. Funny how you understand personal preference when it comes to positive reviews, but ignore it when it comes down to negative or misleading ones.
everyone has their own preferences and opinions. it is normal for people to complain. all of life is like Goldilocks…
Based on the reviews I saw on X and here, I initially didnāt want to watch it. However, I ended up giving it a try with low expectations because of what I had read, only to actually enjoy it. I believe thatās what the OP was trying to say. Maybe read and comprehend before you say things.
Mingee wasn't even harsh, I understand some would be pissed off for having that conversation with Mina. If you understand Korean well, youād notice that her tone wasnāt aggressive or rude at all. She was calm and direct, but sometimes the truth hurts, and that may be what triggered the reaction.
I also think the tears came from feeling overwhelmed rather than from being attacked. When emotions are already running high, even a gentle confrontation can feel heavy. That doesnāt necessarily mean Mingee was wrong for expressing herself, or that Mina was wrong for feeling hurt but it just shows how sensitive the situation had become.
At the end of the day, misunderstandings escalate easily in environments like dating shows, where pressure, insecurity, and cameras are constantly involved. Itās okay to empathize with the emotions without fully agreeing with how everything played out. Both sides were probably acting from a place of vulnerability.
I donāt like Mina Sue, and she seems like the worst kind of person to have as a friend. Iām not hating on her because the guys like her, thatās not the issue. She isnāt forcing those guys to be interested in her, and everyone involved is an adult making their own choices. What bothers me are her actions. They scream āpick me,ā and she knows it thatās why she was guilty enough to say she doesnāt want to look like one. If youāre already aware of how youāre coming across, then why keep acting the same way?
Her saying Mingee was āscaryā was especially weird. I understand she might be feeling conflicted about the situation, but Mingee asked her whether she liked Seungil, and she clearly said no. She even hold hands with Mingee, so how does she suddenly become āscaryā? That just doesnāt add up. Honestly, it feels like sheās playing a game trying to make Seungil see that Mingee is an obstacle to her being with him, and see whatever he does with that information.
I also donāt think she genuinely likes Subeen. In fact, I donāt think she truly likes any of these guys. Sheās just being consistent with what she said about prioritizing herself. However, her jealousy is very obvious she still wants to keep Subeen attached while simultaneously exploring other guys who might be interested in her. Subeen was the one she was sure was into her, whereas Seungil has Mingee. Seeing Subeen with someone else seems to bother her not necessarily because she likes him, but because it threatens the image of being the most desired or popular one she wanted.
What frustrates me the most is that she doesnāt even need to behave this way. Sheās pretty, and the guys are clearly interested in her. She is literally Subeenās ideal type, so no matter what, his choice was kinda unlikely to change. And she could have simply been honest with Mingee and said, āI might not like him right now, but Iām open to getting to know him,ā or āIām still figuring out my feelings.ā It really could have been that simple. You can prioritize yourself and still be honest. But the way she goes about it just feels absurd.
Her comments about the girls especially about lending them her things also felt strange. Lending people your belongings is kind and generous, but it feels like sheās trying to highlight how much she does for them while portraying herself as a victim who has to walk on eggshells around the girls. No one has the right to hate you for being interested in men who are interested in you as well. Thatās completely normal. So instead of being vague or contradictory, why not just be straightforward about it? You don't owe anyone an explanation but girl you've already put yourself in a questioning position.
Doubt: who gave minjee the other red heart tho. One was from seung il. One golden one from the buff guy(who is…
Actually I'm confused too. I wish we know. I thought the red was from Hyeon woo the buff guy since she was his top pick before while the gold could be from any of the guys
This is the worst season of them all. Even Season 3 with red-flag Gwanhee was still more bearable than this, and you know it has gotten really bad for me to even say that
Was it explained in the novel why ZX didnāt text XG back when she texted him about not knowing him and Rong were in a relationship after she confessed?
I know many won't like my comment, but i loved this drama till episode 20 ish and then had to FF a lot. the Slow…
I like it from start to end and I can say this is my best Gu man drama that I enjoyed and didn't find boring or lacking at all. Everyone to their taste and opinion
If you actually went through my comments, you'd see that I never said I didn't understand his point of view. I simply said I don't like his actions, and that's perfectly fine.
Understanding a character's perspective doesn't automatically mean I have to agree with or support their decisions. You can acknowledge that a character was simply insecure and still think they were wrong or dislike the way they handled the situation. Simple.
I don't want to keep repeating myself either, so let's end this here. šš¼
In some friend groups, seeing each other as competition can be healthy. It pushes everyone to work harder, improve themselves, and achieve more. You can motivate one another, get into great universities, win awards together, and still remain genuine friends who celebrate each other's successes. In that kind of environment, competition is based on mutual respect, not jealousy.
On the other hand, competition can also become unhealthy. Some people secretly see you as a rival rather than a friend. They may stay close to you because of what they can gain from you while quietly resenting your lifestyle or achievements. Just look at that other girl, despite showing so much bitterness toward the FL, she still went to great lengths to get access to the guidebook the FL had prepared for her own team. That says a lot.
Overall, I personally wouldn't recommend being in a friend group where people constantly see you as someone they have to beat. Healthy friendships are built on support, trust, and wanting the best for one another, not on constantly trying to outdo each other. Competition isn't inherently bad, but when it turns into envy or resentment, it can damage the friendship.
This is relatable because I experienced it. In situations like that, you may eventually find yourself being left out because they assume you'll always be fine or that you don't need help since you're "better" than everyone else. Over time, that creates distance instead of support. A friendship where people are secretly rooting against you or constantly comparing themselves to you isn't a healthy friendship.
Also, the other girl, the point is, you see yourself the way you carry yourself. If she sees herself as someone who's always second best, that's how she'll continue to view herself. It's not the FL's fault for being exceptional. Her abilities don't diminish anyone else's worth unless they choose to compare themselves to her.
In reality, there will always be people who do things better. Also, I never said she should care about FL because I wasn't expecting her to care in the first place. That was directed at ML who is literally friends with FL and saw the way the girl disrespected and bitter towards her
And lastly, this is different from the comments calling him a red flag. Based on everything he's done so far, I don't see him as a red flag. I simply don't like some of his actions, and that's a valid opinion to have. So if your argument is aimed at people calling him a red flag, then direct it at them, not at me, because that's not the point I was making.
He's not a loser. The reason he felt inferior was because he wasn't naturally gifted like the FL, who could even take the university entrance exam earlier than everyone else. His goal was to beat her to prove that he was just as capable, but in the end, he realized that defeating her wasn't as meaningful as he had imagined. Saying he thinks he's a loser doesn't even make sense because he's literally one of the top students. His entire motivation revolved around surpassing the FL, not because he lacked ability, but because he compared himself to her.
Back in school, I had a friend group with someone who was more academically gifted than I was, but I never felt insecure. Even though they were exceptionally brilliant, I knew I had my own strengths, and as friends, we supported and helped each other. In fact being their friends was a motivation for me. At the same time, we're all human, so I can understand why someone like the ML would struggle with insecurity or ego and see fl as a competition.
And don't even get me started on the other girl. Yes, she had her own issues, but that didn't give her the right to be rude and resentful toward the FL. She even went out of her way to recruit the other guy into her team so she could gain access to the FL team's guidebook. The FL was right there when she approached the ML to join her team, so he witnessed firsthand how disrespectful she was toward the FL. Despite seeing all of that, he still chose to join her side simply because he wanted to beat the FL.
At the end of the day, people are free to understand the ML's motivations while still criticizing his actions. A character can have understandable reasons for making a decision without that decision being likable, and I think the criticism he's receiving is completely justified.
The FL practically had no one in that class she could truly call a friend except him. At the same time, if I put myself in his shoes, I can understand his perspective because he's insecure. His motivations make sense, but that doesn't mean viewers can't criticize or dislike him. For me, even after Episode 8, I still find it difficult to warm up to his character because that decision left a bad impression. Hopefully, the rest of the story gives him enough redemption for me to change my opinion.
Maybe read and comprehend before you say things.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You can skip their comments too
I also think the tears came from feeling overwhelmed rather than from being attacked. When emotions are already running high, even a gentle confrontation can feel heavy. That doesnāt necessarily mean Mingee was wrong for expressing herself, or that Mina was wrong for feeling hurt but it just shows how sensitive the situation had become.
At the end of the day, misunderstandings escalate easily in environments like dating shows, where pressure, insecurity, and cameras are constantly involved. Itās okay to empathize with the emotions without fully agreeing with how everything played out. Both sides were probably acting from a place of vulnerability.
What bothers me are her actions. They scream āpick me,ā and she knows it thatās why she was guilty enough to say she doesnāt want to look like one. If youāre already aware of how youāre coming across, then why keep acting the same way?
Her saying Mingee was āscaryā was especially weird. I understand she might be feeling conflicted about the situation, but Mingee asked her whether she liked Seungil, and she clearly said no. She even hold hands with Mingee, so how does she suddenly become āscaryā? That just doesnāt add up.
Honestly, it feels like sheās playing a game trying to make Seungil see that Mingee is an obstacle to her being with him, and see whatever he does with that information.
I also donāt think she genuinely likes Subeen. In fact, I donāt think she truly likes any of these guys. Sheās just being consistent with what she said about prioritizing herself. However, her jealousy is very obvious she still wants to keep Subeen attached while simultaneously exploring other guys who might be interested in her. Subeen was the one she was sure was into her, whereas Seungil has Mingee. Seeing Subeen with someone else seems to bother her not necessarily because she likes him, but because it threatens the image of being the most desired or popular one she wanted.
What frustrates me the most is that she doesnāt even need to behave this way. Sheās pretty, and the guys are clearly interested in her. She is literally Subeenās ideal type, so no matter what, his choice was kinda unlikely to change. And she could have simply been honest with Mingee and said, āI might not like him right now, but Iām open to getting to know him,ā or āIām still figuring out my feelings.ā It really could have been that simple.
You can prioritize yourself and still be honest. But the way she goes about it just feels absurd.
Her comments about the girls especially about lending them her things also felt strange. Lending people your belongings is kind and generous, but it feels like sheās trying to highlight how much she does for them while portraying herself as a victim who has to walk on eggshells around the girls.
No one has the right to hate you for being interested in men who are interested in you as well. Thatās completely normal. So instead of being vague or contradictory, why not just be straightforward about it?
You don't owe anyone an explanation but girl you've already put yourself in a questioning position.
I thought the red was from Hyeon woo the buff guy since she was his top pick before while the gold could be from any of the guys