TempestChani

Here's the thing, second to last episode of most thriller/horrors have the characters making dumb choices. It's necessary to get all moving pieces in the same room for the grand finale, I get that. But everything that happened in this episode could have still taken place without every single one of them being this stupid. Darin could have called out and tried to stay home. Evil ghost could have gotten him anyway. Thup and Singa could have been separated while searching for Bom instead. Leaving Thup in a locked car doesn't even make sense? By this point in the story, they'd all experienced the evil spirit and what she's capable of. She can unlock a damn door. They've also seen Thup possessed enough times to question whether or not he'd be convinced to leave. Sure, neither of those things happened, but there were so many obvious holes in the "you'll be safe here" I couldn't suspend my disbelief anymore.

I love this show, but man. What a frustrating episode.

To add to this, because it bothered me so much during this episode: Darin could have called out of work and stayed home. He wasn't needed. Be exra safe and stay there! And then leaving Thup in a locked car, as though they haven't all now singlehandedly experienced the evil ghost opening doors and moving shit....come on.

Yeah, like I GUESS I can still see them not involving King's dad for fear he wouldn't do anything, but...his son was kidnapped this time. MAYBE they could have gotten some backup. I was able to look past that, but bringing the person they think might be the target, and letting the other go off alone is just stupid. At this point, every single one of them has experienced the evil spirit and know things don't go logically. They were dumb all around.

Where did you read the novel?

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I really wish we had less Sey and Darin. I love the actors, and I hope they get to lead their own show, The characters are also fine, but this story is already so meaty. There's so much to explore and answer, and it just feels like we've spent way too much screen time on them. It feels like filler, and there are a ton of other character dynamics and plot points we could be exploring instead. There's so much going on, but instead of getting to any of it, we keep circling around and filling almost half of every episode with SeyDarin.

I loved this show right up until the last episode. There were some details I could pretend I didn’t notice (like how could she not check his house? Wasn’t looking that hard) but the final episode just felt like rehashed cliches and filler flashbacks. I expected a stronger ending. Still recommend watching because the acting all around is really well done and I loved the story otherwise.

It seems like Netflix likes to split 16 into 8, which is so annoying. Hopefully we’ll get a completed series if it is only 8, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a season two after the first 8.

I loved Genie, Make a Wish! But I'm pretty sure her character is actually a psychopath. Psychopaths and sociopaths aren't the same. The first are typically categorized as unable to feel empathy, while the latter may be capable of feeling some. It's so interesting to see all of these characters crop up this year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like in the past, we've typically gotten male psychopath/sociopath characters, with the occasional exception, of course. I've been enjoying seeing it more through a different lens this year!

I haven't watched that one yet, but it's on my list! I might come back to chat about my thoughts on it once I do 👍🏻🤣

It's believed that sociopathy is usually caused from both genetics and environment. I think the show does a good job of showing us how messed up her father is, and how he consistently refers to her as property. I know this is used by awful people who aren't sociopaths, but it feels like the writers chose this angle/these terms to sort of explain which parent she may have inherited the genes from. Then you've got a kid who in episode one comments that her dad doesn't really do anything to stop the abuse, is abused all the time, and watches her mom be murdered. It feels like a good blend of both. Without all of that abuse/without having witnessed it and seen how her father uses and discards people, though, even with genetics, I don't believe she would have become a sociopath. It's my understanding that while genetics can make a person more likely to lean that way, trauma is still needed. So if she hadn't been raised in that environment, no, she wouldn't have become one.

Thank you! I couldn't find this info anywhere and was wondering why it was showing for other people.

Are you watching in the States? I can't seem to find it. The show is there, but there aren't any episodes on Disney.

I can't seem to find this available on Disney Plus. Where is everyone watching it?

I thought she did a good job in Snowdrop. Even if someone doesn't like her acting, there's no point in slinging hate over five minutes of screen time. It's not making her look bad, it's just drawing more attention to the project.

I think it's more when the character is said to be really good or a native speaker of said language, and then it ends up being bad enough I struggle to understand it, that's when I cringe. 😅 It's less about an accent than mispronunciation, but again, only when the character is supposedly great at the language. Like, for example, because they mentioned Peace is still learning, it never bothers me when he speaks Thai.

I'm American, but I'm Chinese American, so I grew up around Asian languages. Personally, the Thai, Korean, and English all made me cringe while watching this 😅. But not enough to stop watching, especially since they had a mixed cast so it made sense the dialects wouldn't be on point. Thai is such a tricky language because of all the tones, and the pitch between it and Korean is soooo different. Even a lot of my Thai and Korean friends who can speak both struggle with pronunciation because of that. I think everyone in the show did great. But yeah, I hard cringed at the English. I'm jealous you don't have that problem 🤣👍🏻

Wow. I wrongly thought the point of this site was so we could all discuss shows, not just bash on people. Whining? I even stated I like the show. But since you brought up his father, there's another thing that, in your words, is actually pretty unrealistic. His dad is a huge deal in episode one. Has respect and runs an entire area himself. Yet we see around three of his followers the entire show. His dad trained him and Sun has said multiple times his dream has always been to become an MMA fighter. Him winning one fight in ten episodes on his own with his fists as a kid who trained his whole life with the goal of becoming a professional fighter is the literal epitome of both realistic AND believable. My comment was just asking if anyone else felt like there were small inconsistencies like that one, and like everything always being the same setup. I wasn't crapping on anyone who loves it as is. Not everyone is going to love everything you love for all the reasons you love it. I happen to love this show and still find fault with it. But hey, thanks for teaching me MyDramaList is no longer a place you can actually have a fun dialogue about shows with anyone on. I suppose in that regard, you're totally right and I had unrealistic expectations.

Yeah, at this point, when I realized it was already episode ten, that felt kind of like a letdown for me. He didn't have to do anything major, and I get he's terrified of his dad, but we're ten episodes in and there's no progress? He could have said one comment to his dad about how they met with him on a bridge and he'd go back there if anything happened to Sun after this, or literally anything like that to try and make his point in a believable way to the character....But like every other time he said nothing.

These things almost never bother me, because typically they do some sort of lead up to really make it believable, but I had the same thought as you when that scene happened. Her explanation that that's what she used to do to comfort herself didn't make sense either. She...used to curl up? Okay. But on top of someone? I would have rathered she snuggled in at her side and then we could have moved to the part where Mei took over.

Just watched episode 10, and now that we're close to the end of the show, I've got to be honest...I'm feeling underwhelmed? Was wondering if anyone else felt the same way? Don't get me wrong, I love the acting, the chemistry, the cinematography, etc. I love that the main focus here isn't building some fluffy relationship and that it's realistic, but at the same time...None of the wins ever feel like real wins? It's realistic that Sun wouldn't always win, but it isn't realistic that we never see him successfully win a fight after being told from episode one that his ad was a big deal, having him train, then survive prison, then supposedly continue training...I didn't realize until episode 10 that I'd been waiting each week for a big win to feel like the underdog story is believable, and we just keep not getting it. His dad was such a big deal, but we never see more than a handful of his old gang members. We don't have enough moments between Joe and his adopted sons to make it believable that this guy wouldn't see betrayal coming a mile away. The only show I can think to compare it to, even though they're nothing alike aside from having basically a master criminal against the MC is Itaweon Class. If you've seen it, you see that they keep it exciting by having believable wins throughout. I can't name one win that Sun had in ten episodes that wasn't handed to him aside from how he figured out how to become the boss in prison in episode 2. I've loved the show this, and still do, but now that we're only two episodes away I've realized every week I'm left wanting just a little more believable intrigue. I'm not going to rate it low and I'm not bashing the show, so please don't come for me if you disagree. I just wanted to see if anyone else felt the same and discuss. Maybe no one does and it's all me, or maybe no one will even read this 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️