TempestChani

It seems like Netflix likes to split 16 into 8, which is so annoying. Hopefully we’ll get a completed series if it is only 8, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a season two after the first 8.

I loved Genie, Make a Wish! But I'm pretty sure her character is actually a psychopath. Psychopaths and sociopaths aren't the same. The first are typically categorized as unable to feel empathy, while the latter may be capable of feeling some. It's so interesting to see all of these characters crop up this year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like in the past, we've typically gotten male psychopath/sociopath characters, with the occasional exception, of course. I've been enjoying seeing it more through a different lens this year!

I haven't watched that one yet, but it's on my list! I might come back to chat about my thoughts on it once I do 👍🏻🤣

It's believed that sociopathy is usually caused from both genetics and environment. I think the show does a good job of showing us how messed up her father is, and how he consistently refers to her as property. I know this is used by awful people who aren't sociopaths, but it feels like the writers chose this angle/these terms to sort of explain which parent she may have inherited the genes from. Then you've got a kid who in episode one comments that her dad doesn't really do anything to stop the abuse, is abused all the time, and watches her mom be murdered. It feels like a good blend of both. Without all of that abuse/without having witnessed it and seen how her father uses and discards people, though, even with genetics, I don't believe she would have become a sociopath. It's my understanding that while genetics can make a person more likely to lean that way, trauma is still needed. So if she hadn't been raised in that environment, no, she wouldn't have become one.

Thank you! I couldn't find this info anywhere and was wondering why it was showing for other people.

Are you watching in the States? I can't seem to find it. The show is there, but there aren't any episodes on Disney.

I can't seem to find this available on Disney Plus. Where is everyone watching it?

I thought she did a good job in Snowdrop. Even if someone doesn't like her acting, there's no point in slinging hate over five minutes of screen time. It's not making her look bad, it's just drawing more attention to the project.

I think it's more when the character is said to be really good or a native speaker of said language, and then it ends up being bad enough I struggle to understand it, that's when I cringe. 😅 It's less about an accent than mispronunciation, but again, only when the character is supposedly great at the language. Like, for example, because they mentioned Peace is still learning, it never bothers me when he speaks Thai.

I'm American, but I'm Chinese American, so I grew up around Asian languages. Personally, the Thai, Korean, and English all made me cringe while watching this 😅. But not enough to stop watching, especially since they had a mixed cast so it made sense the dialects wouldn't be on point. Thai is such a tricky language because of all the tones, and the pitch between it and Korean is soooo different. Even a lot of my Thai and Korean friends who can speak both struggle with pronunciation because of that. I think everyone in the show did great. But yeah, I hard cringed at the English. I'm jealous you don't have that problem 🤣👍🏻

Wow. I wrongly thought the point of this site was so we could all discuss shows, not just bash on people. Whining? I even stated I like the show. But since you brought up his father, there's another thing that, in your words, is actually pretty unrealistic. His dad is a huge deal in episode one. Has respect and runs an entire area himself. Yet we see around three of his followers the entire show. His dad trained him and Sun has said multiple times his dream has always been to become an MMA fighter. Him winning one fight in ten episodes on his own with his fists as a kid who trained his whole life with the goal of becoming a professional fighter is the literal epitome of both realistic AND believable. My comment was just asking if anyone else felt like there were small inconsistencies like that one, and like everything always being the same setup. I wasn't crapping on anyone who loves it as is. Not everyone is going to love everything you love for all the reasons you love it. I happen to love this show and still find fault with it. But hey, thanks for teaching me MyDramaList is no longer a place you can actually have a fun dialogue about shows with anyone on. I suppose in that regard, you're totally right and I had unrealistic expectations.

Yeah, at this point, when I realized it was already episode ten, that felt kind of like a letdown for me. He didn't have to do anything major, and I get he's terrified of his dad, but we're ten episodes in and there's no progress? He could have said one comment to his dad about how they met with him on a bridge and he'd go back there if anything happened to Sun after this, or literally anything like that to try and make his point in a believable way to the character....But like every other time he said nothing.

These things almost never bother me, because typically they do some sort of lead up to really make it believable, but I had the same thought as you when that scene happened. Her explanation that that's what she used to do to comfort herself didn't make sense either. She...used to curl up? Okay. But on top of someone? I would have rathered she snuggled in at her side and then we could have moved to the part where Mei took over.

Just watched episode 10, and now that we're close to the end of the show, I've got to be honest...I'm feeling underwhelmed? Was wondering if anyone else felt the same way? Don't get me wrong, I love the acting, the chemistry, the cinematography, etc. I love that the main focus here isn't building some fluffy relationship and that it's realistic, but at the same time...None of the wins ever feel like real wins? It's realistic that Sun wouldn't always win, but it isn't realistic that we never see him successfully win a fight after being told from episode one that his ad was a big deal, having him train, then survive prison, then supposedly continue training...I didn't realize until episode 10 that I'd been waiting each week for a big win to feel like the underdog story is believable, and we just keep not getting it. His dad was such a big deal, but we never see more than a handful of his old gang members. We don't have enough moments between Joe and his adopted sons to make it believable that this guy wouldn't see betrayal coming a mile away. The only show I can think to compare it to, even though they're nothing alike aside from having basically a master criminal against the MC is Itaweon Class. If you've seen it, you see that they keep it exciting by having believable wins throughout. I can't name one win that Sun had in ten episodes that wasn't handed to him aside from how he figured out how to become the boss in prison in episode 2. I've loved the show this, and still do, but now that we're only two episodes away I've realized every week I'm left wanting just a little more believable intrigue. I'm not going to rate it low and I'm not bashing the show, so please don't come for me if you disagree. I just wanted to see if anyone else felt the same and discuss. Maybe no one does and it's all me, or maybe no one will even read this 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️

I completely agree with this! Those moments in Secret Relationships where he was soft and charming, like with his niece, really showcased that he'd be a scene stealer in a calm, boy-next-door type of role.

I am absolutely loving this drama. I'm excited for it every week, and impatiently thinking about it on those days there isn't a new episode. That being said, and I know it's highly unlikely at this point, but I truly hope they do all of the characters justice by allowing them to finally let go and move on with their lives. So far, what we've gotten from this drama is how easy it is for people to cling to the past, to hold onto our memories so tightly, that those good moments blind us and keep us trapped. I would love for Eun Ho to actually attempt to find happiness by trying to discover what "Hye Ri" was so drawn to in Ju Yeon. If after eight + years she and Hyeon Oh haven't learned how to communicate with each other, they aren't going to. It'll be healthier for the both of them to leave their relationship in the past, and I think healthier for Ju Yeon to have someone he can communicate with over the grief of losing a sibling. All the things he liked about Hye Ri are aspects of Eun Ho's personality we've seen her present in her past memories when she was happy. No matter how the drama ends, if she ends up back with Hyeon Oh or not, I still think the drama is great, but I do think it'll be a serious missed opportunity to explore and address how sometimes, no matter how much we love someone or miss something, we can't be happy until we come to terms with the fact that it's gone and it's over and we let it go.

Remember when his fiance's dad said he could take out one of the men for him, and we saw this random guy walking around a corner and then heard him scream? He called that guys daughter and told her who killed her father. Definitely one of those smaller details that would easily be missed. Heck, maybe I'm wrong even 🤣 (I don't think I am just joking).

Okay, so at the end of episode 7, I'm just going to assume we're seeing a flashback to what kicked off this whole thing, since him reading his mother's diary was what got him involved in either timeline. Sure, check. But...if they're both dead in this timeline, then does that mean the other timeline is also actually real? And why haven't certain flashes in the 4 minute loops been explained, like the different writing on the cup? Because that didn't happen in either of the timelines we witnessed. How did Great see that shooter about to kill his mom outside the office when that apparently never happened in the "main" timeline? Why did they have to make Win walk out fully naked in that one episode? I've still got so many questions and there's only one episode left. 6 had me thinking I understood the plot. 7 unanswered all the questions I wrongly believed 6 had answered and left me with at least half a dozen more 🥲

I love this show so much so far! My only thing is with episode 4, I really hope that was somehow a fake stone because it really makes NO sense to take the stone from its safe hidden location, and bring it to the house that has already been broken into and searched a couple of times. That room was locked, so they knew the thieves hadn't checked there and could easily try again. Plus, the room it was hidden in in the temple was insanely good. Like, even if someone did realize that was a secret door, there's no way they'd figure out that complicated weight distribution with the books?

I thought for sure that's why IQ didn't and was so mad until I came here. Would have been insanly smart marketing, and maybe that's why they're delaying it? BUT I needed to see that trailer. I feel so much better now lmao.