TempestChani

With omegaverse, people create different world rules to fit their stories. I've also read a few different ones where it is rare but possible for betas to turn later in life, but the typical set up is as everyone else responded with, which is they don't. I haven't read Knot, so I don't know if that's possible in this particular story, but I would imagine there isn't enough time in the series to do that sort of thing properly, when they're already struggling to explain basic world concepts to the viewers.

So typically in a shared world, abo are secretive, so most normal people wouldn't have heard of them. I do agree that the friend he lives with (I'm pretty sure he's just his P' because he's an older friend, no blood relation and translations just suck--which is a whole other thing to complain about) keeping it secret and then revealing it all in episode one after he meets an omega casually like he did is...questionable. But at least they were giving us info. In this episode, even if they're secretive, he should have been researching what he is as soon as he discovered it, not doing literally nothing. We could have gotten information that way without him relying on other characters, since I'm guessing they're attempting, and failing, at showing that he's very independent. Letting the other characters who do know he's about to seriously suffer just shake their heads was stupid and a waste of time. At this point, I don't like anyone except for Nakin.

Because he kept wearing them, I expected him to live in a shitty apartment. Then we saw his room and I was like....my dude can afford a new outfit, what? The director is clearly too focused on the primal aspect of omegaverse, and not realizing that they're still humans. They aren't going to roll around like dogs finding a good spot in the grass.

I'm definitely still watching, and hopeful. But yes.

I'm a huge fan of omegaverse, and was (still am, despite this) super excited for this show, but they are leaning way too heavily on the "primal" aspect of abo. Yes, they're always described as having wild urges, but also grace and strength. I think they forgot that aesthetics are half of what keeps people watching a show. Episode two was too sloppy and chaotic to get into. Not blaming the actors, that looked difficult to act, more the director, since this direction would have totally been their call. For only the second episode, they needed to do more verbal explanation. I can't imagine going into this not knowing anything about omegaverse and sitting through this episode.

Ah, I've been here for years. A while back, almost all of them, even the ones meant to be school/cutesy had major red flag elements. So it was common for the top to be terrible to the bottom and have that never addressed as wrong. Now there's a clear separation between these types of dramas and the cutesy or purely romantic ones, which is great. There was concern back then that impressionable youth were watching and picking up on the toxic elements and not realizing that's a healthy relationship. Whereas now it's pretty clear. Watch these for enjoyment knowing it's fiction, but run if you meet a red flag like this in real life 🤣

I love how a few years ago the BL community was raging for healthy love and to remove toxicity, and now that we've got it, we're like "More red flash please!". Jokes aside, I know really what we wanted was for things to be labeled properly, so that going into it the message is already clear this is not a healthy love story, do not try at home 🤣

No. This is why it was tricky, because the actor isn't listed in the credits. I mean the son Gi Seok killed, that Gi Jun took the fall for. The death that started it all.

Thanks, but I'm trying to find the actor who played the original leader of the gang's son. The one who was killed that started it all.

I loved VOS, and remembered starting this when it first aired, then life getting in the way, so I started again. On episode 4, and I want to ask, does it start really picking up?

I know this is a beloved drama for many, but it's sort of dragging for me, and I'd just like to know from other viewers if the pacing gains traction. This is often the case since the first few episodes are about establishing the world etc., but I wanted to be sure. Again, I think it's due to the fact I loved VOS so much, and that felt like running straight out of the gate and never stopping for me.

I'm not asking about characters, just overall feel. And just to be safe, I'm in no way insulting the first 4 episodes I have watched. It's just not hitting for me, that's all. It isn't bad, but I'm just not catching the spark.

I'd take it a petty step further, marry the girl, then tell mom on her deathbed she ruined my life 🤣 But I mean, jokes aside, it's so sad that this has fallen on him when it should always be the parents' job to manage their own feelings and expectations like an adult.

This is a super toxic love story. There are sweet and playful moments, but the overall relationship is toxic. If you're looking for a healthy romance drama, this probably isn't the one, but if you want something raw and emotionally charged, give it a try.

For real! I was SO excited when I found out they were doing this! It's been one of my favs for years!

Can anyone tell me the name of the actor who plays Oh Seung Won, Chairman Oh's son? I'm either blind and can't see him included in the cast, or he isn't. He looks familiar enough I know I know his face, but can't for the life of me recall the actors name and it's bugging me.

I really think if they'd shown us more of Duang's mom with him in the beginning episodes, many of the people who found it cringe would think so a lot less. Once you really see them at the end of the drama, it turns it into a really cute personality trait picked up from his family (mom more specifically than dad and brother).

I also struggled at times with the cringe factor, but the chemistry is so good, and the underlying trauma plot is handled so well and realistically. When people ask me if they should watch it, I just say to wait until they're not in a heavy drama mode, so they can stomach the potential cringe humor of the beginning and ease their way into the serious undertones.

If you're on the fence, that's my advice. It's not for everyone, nothing ever is, but it's definitely worth watching and seeing for yourself, just make sure you're in the right mood for the romantic comedy genre.

For all of you who've seen it to the end, can we just collectively agree he was really there and Man Yue just wasn't wearing her contacts that day 😅

You asked this a while ago, so you probably already know, but just in case anyone else sees this question and is wondering: Wen Che (I'll just call him A'Che) is from a wealthy family that deals in expensive art antiques. When he was a child, he found Wen Shu, a homeless boy a year or two older than he is and brought him home. His parents adopted Wen Shu because the two share a rare made up blood type. The mother wanted to use Wen Shu to ensure there was always a supply of blood for A' Che, and A' Che happened to also be ill, so needed transfusions often, turning to monthly as he got older. The main story takes place after they're older (probably college age, but in never really says), with Wen Shu having supposedly murdered A' Che's father and taken over the family business. He keeps A' Che basically as a prisoner and has him work on restoring sculptures and the like. It's clear the relationship between the two is not brotherly and more romantic, but since this is a Chinese drama, they can't SAY as much. The actors do a good job of making that obvious though. The main plot is of A' Che trying to protect his mother, who's gone mad after losing her husband, and break free of Wen Shu while also getting revenge. About midway, you discover that yes, the father is really the villain, but I won't spoil anything.

I do expect they'll do something big with revealing who and how the contract got into the queen's hands though, now that they've chosen that angle. If they gloss over it, that would be another disappointment. I've loved everything else though so I'm just going to choose to keep trusting them 😹

It's unclear if she really realized yet, but we the viewers did, and I liked that they at least set it up that way. We could see it going in that direction already, since he was breaking down little by little as the episodes progressed though, so I would have liked the catalyst to be something fresher than a leaked contract. Both she and I An have grown up in the backstabbing corporate and palace worlds. Do we really believe they'd have handwritten contracts like that? If it's hers, how'd they get that copy? Getting his makes more sense since he allowed the palace to be open for investigation, but if they found that from his safe, they would have found the old edict. It's just a tired trope and I expected a bit more. That being said, I love what's being done around the trope and the progression of the characters from it. I guess what I'm really just saying is I think the writers could have been more clever and come up with a less cliche catalyst.

I've been loving this show, I really enjoy how they've blended custom with the modern day, but I was pretty bummed by the cliche leaked contract trope. I was hopeful when they sat down to write it that the show writers would do something different, or even make us dread the cliche and not have it happen to build tension for viewers, but nope. I mean, I guess it is sort of the same as the gun on the wall in literature, but still. This close to the end, I guess I was just hopeful for something clever and unexpected.