If there are any Pond fans lingering here… kindly help me to understand why an actor of his caliber would take on a lifeless role in a lifeless series such as this. I swear every time he appears on my screen in a scene that "Ariana, what are you doing here?" meme instantly & continuously comes to mind.
Also, HOW did a series without a pulse score a sequel season?! I know there are multiple novels but was this adaptation of the first really that popular? Genuinely asking as I was not tuned in then.
I really want to finish the series but it wants to put me to sleep 😭
I literally bought vip just to watch this and omg this was so cute🥹 thankfully I never had an iqyi account…
They have another vertical short series together called Golden Feathers on WeTV but unlike iQ they have most episodes behind a paywall regardless of VIP membership status. Just thought I’d let you know in case you were considering doing the same thing with WeTV to see their previous work.
Okay I finally picked this up again at the 5 ep mark and I realized I actually watched until ep 6 and the second…
This was me too! I dropped it fairly early on only to circle back and find that I actually LOVED it. It takes a good minute to fully appreciate the story but also it’s one of those series that necessitates your full attention, especially at the start. That was my problem - I was wrapped up in too many ongoing series at the time to where this one got the least of my concentration, which led to me writing off the first couple episodes as boring. In the end it would go on to be one of my favorite watches of last year.
Also, I’m watching Fourever You right now and I’m just baffled as to what Pond saw in this dud of a character to have taken a role like this. Maybe it’s the college setting but he feels so out of place. He’s good in it don’t get me wrong but there’s like no character to his character or anyone else’s for that matter lol. I've only seen one kissing scene so far and Pond was giving it his all but these characters are too lifeless outside of the bed for me to even want to ever see them in it lol. Meanwhile, Thada & Armin’s characters had so much life & story both individually & between them which helped a lot in amplifying their chemistry in every scene.
It's never a 100% sure thing. This industry can shift and change, contracts expire or get terminated, and the…
Respectfully, I see you are a fan of Smart’s now but it’s clear you weren’t around at that time so as a longtime follower (less so these days) of Mame’s since TT and a former fan of Smart’s (he was the best part of DSN) from the era in question I’ll need to correct your attempt at correcting me here as much of what you’re saying is wrong.
Firstly, JSY was a spinoff built around LeonPob (SmartJames) story not a sequel series for LeoFiat (JaFirst) who would’ve made at cameo appearance at most, so their status at the time or whatever is being inferred by your mention of Ja is largely irrelevant.
Second, you make it sound like Mame shifted focus to LiTA and JSY fell to the wayside as a result but that isn’t what happened. Mame only does one series at a time as one series funds the next and production on LiTA was near complete when she announced JSY. In fact, JSY was announced around the same time as another series which also featured characters from DSN and as with most Mame stories they would have gone on to share a universe. Actors from both of these planned series had cameos as their DSN characters (Smart’s Leon) in LiTA. In the meantime, Smart and James were in workshops for JSY! Why would she hold workshops for a series she wasn’t serious about doing next? As you said, Google is free.
And to be clear, I do blame GIR. I do not bring any of this up to sway public sentiment on Smart but rather to shine a light on the shady acts of his company who’s sole purpose in existing is to act on his behalf and guide his career. A career they’ve done absolutely nothing for, except guide him off any and every worthwhile track of success. All of this premature bowing out of projects is their fault! Whether they had reasons or not is moot to the fact that it’s just not a good look! Optics are everything and it’s a manager’s job for their client to remain in good public standing yet ALL of their decisions where Smart is concerned have worked against him. Would you not agree?
To reiterate what I’ve said so many times here, Smart was the only reason I was even clued into Top Form in the first place as I had been following him since DSN, but fan of him or not a pattern is a pattern and quite frankly I’ve grown tired of thinking up excuses for him because it’s now beyond the point of writing off as coincidences. At the end of the day, he’s made his stance clear in his desire to stay with that unserious and unprofessional management company so it is what it is. The real tragedy is in seeing an artist at the peak of their career thanks to a breakout role go backwards like this.
edit: aaaaaaannnnnnnddddddd I’m blocked 😭 at least I think I am since I only see my replies now lol Oh well. First time for everything I guess! Protect your peace and get well soon, girl 🙏
I really didn’t think it was possible but this series ended up being an even bigger disappointment than The Next Prince was for me. Every character is moronic!
His name is Phoom Chawonwat Thongyoo. He’s @wooooyd on social media. Not sure if he’s a confirmed member of…
I didn’t pick up on that resemblance but I only watched the clip of Phoom being flirty with Toey in the elevator. I’ll have to go back to watch the other two clips now and really examine them lol. Funny though because some fans were really hoping for Phoom x Boom! 🤣
So there won’t be a new episode tomorrow on account of New Years? Wouldn’t the holiday technically be over by then though being that it’s the 2nd? Or does Thailand celebrate beyond the actual day?
Same to me. Sadly is something that does not appeal to me at this drama and those sounds effects does not belong…
So true! Important to remain of objective. And you’re so right about GMMTV with their budgets. It really is all over the place. I hadn’t really noticed until I recently started watching more of their series.
It's never a 100% sure thing. This industry can shift and change, contracts expire or get terminated, and the…
The company who reps Smart and has always represented Smart - Grand Ivory Record - was supposed to co-produce Art Adore En under their old banner Yoma Entertainment, which on paper no longer exists but is literally Grand Ivory Record. This company has a long and well established history of abandoning projects and then changing their name and/or launching a *new* company in its place in an effort to hide away their messes.
It should also be noted that said company had no business or experience in production of any kind! They were an idol training "camp" of sorts that later pivoted into management but never really abandoned the idol training thing.
Top Form is like the 3rd or 4th series Smart and co. abandoned. Just prior to Art Adore En he was supposed to continue on with his Don't Say No character in the follow-up series Just Say Yes which would've seen his character go on to be the lead. Meanwhile, a month shy of DSN's finale airing, Yoma decides to cosplay as an amateur producer and enters into an agreement to co-produce Art Adore En, a series which at that point already had a filmed pilot trailer with a cast that kept announcing their departures from the project. Not long after Just Say Yes (which used to have a page here) is announced as being in the works Art Adore En decided to wake up from a dormant slumber and film a new pilot trailer with a bunch of new faces - including Smart. So naturally he could no longer commit to JSY (which at that point was still in the early stages of planning) on account of Art Adore En, so plans for JSY were effectively scrapped as a result.
There has been zero movement with Art Adore En since that 2nd pilot trailer with Smart was released. Yoma Entertainment was conveniently declared dead as soon as Smart booked TF and in its place Grand Ivory Record was born. Same company. Same personnel. Same shady moves. These are not professional people!
Same to me. Sadly is something that does not appeal to me at this drama and those sounds effects does not belong…
Yeah, it's a little dull right now but like you said not terrible, so I'm more hopeful than not. I was really disappointed last week because it felt like such a downgrade from The Heart Killers in so many ways - production, cinematography, opening credits, etc - but I felt better about today's episode. Ultimately if the storytelling proves strong I could overlook the rest. Well, except for the shaky camera... I'm gonna need them to chill with that 🤣
I think he and NP are woefully mismatched and lack even the slightest bit of chemistry but saying he should dump…
I think you're taking what I hypothesized about Keng solos *maybe* and/or *inevitably* getting annoyed by NP being the sole talker of the duo too literally. As stated in that very comment, I am not a solo fan of either and was just speculating on reasons for the divide as solos were being loud here in the days leading up to that remark. Keyword: speculating.
But let me rephrase my earlier comment since you seem really peeved by it - Namping should give Keng the mic every so often because extrovert (can't relate!) or not I'd imagine having to be the "on" one all the time must get exhausting - and Keng for his part should really stop hiding behind Namping. They are equally doing each other no favors in this regard, in my opinion!
As for Namping being committed to the ship - he is! That's not to say Keng isn't but we are seeing him venture out to do solo things (which is a very normal thing btw) while Namping has not taken on any solo gigs, at least thus far. But again, in my original comment about this very thing I'm pretty sure I speculated on why that could be and it was said and meant in NP's defense.
Hope that clears things up some.
Edit: just want to add one more thing which I'm sure you will spin into a whole other something but maybe someone else in your fandom will stumble upon it and take something from it... while this series was airing the most off-putting thing about it for me were the shipper fans here - to the point I removed their next series from my watchlist entirely. Then it shifted and the most unbearable lot appeared to be super fans of NP. To the point where I will never watch anything he is in ever again for no other reason than his super fans. I say this because it only just occurred to me that in all of that time spent here I have not once encountered anything negative from any Keng solo fans. And some of my earliest comments on this page were criticisms of him. If they saw those comments or anything I've said about him since they let it be. This is a glaring contrast to the behavior of NP solos. Again, I am no fan of either and thought they were both weak in this series but where I had once been eager to check for them in the future as a pair or otherwise just to see if they improved in acting and/or chemistry with different material I would now only be interested in a Keng solo project. Because as is and as has been encountering a NP solo in the wild is exhausting and never fails to result in a bickering match for no reason other than a difference of opinion. As NP himself had said, his fans are a reflection of him. Some of y'all might think your fierce defense of him is on his behalf and doing him favors but really you're more likely sabotaging his career in the short term when he is at his peak popularity. And maybe that is the reason we aren't seeing him booking solo anything... it wouldn't be the first time fans have burnt bridges and squandered away opportunities for their favorite artist on account of their toxic behavior. Just something to think about. Or not.
I jave never watched a JoongDunk series before, is this good? How is it so far?
I think it's too soon to truly tell since there are only two eps out. But at the same time there are only two eps out so if you're curious enough then it's a relatively quick binge to both gauge your interest & effectively get caught up. Have you considered watching The Heart Killers? They were great in that!
Something about the way this was filmed still feels cheap to me, and I will personally never understand the appeal or stylistic vision behind a shaky camera shot when fig rigs exist but I know it's a thing so it is what it is I guess.
Dunk, they can never make me hate you!
+ THANK YOU GMMTV for including text message contents in subtitles!
Also, HOW did a series without a pulse score a sequel season?!
I know there are multiple novels but was this adaptation of the first really that popular? Genuinely asking as I was not tuned in then.
I really want to finish the series but it wants to put me to sleep 😭
Also, I’m watching Fourever You right now and I’m just baffled as to what Pond saw in this dud of a character to have taken a role like this. Maybe it’s the college setting but he feels so out of place. He’s good in it don’t get me wrong but there’s like no character to his character or anyone else’s for that matter lol. I've only seen one kissing scene so far and Pond was giving it his all but these characters are too lifeless outside of the bed for me to even want to ever see them in it lol. Meanwhile, Thada & Armin’s characters had so much life & story both individually & between them which helped a lot in amplifying their chemistry in every scene.
Firstly, JSY was a spinoff built around LeonPob (SmartJames) story not a sequel series for LeoFiat (JaFirst) who would’ve made at cameo appearance at most, so their status at the time or whatever is being inferred by your mention of Ja is largely irrelevant.
Second, you make it sound like Mame shifted focus to LiTA and JSY fell to the wayside as a result but that isn’t what happened. Mame only does one series at a time as one series funds the next and production on LiTA was near complete when she announced JSY. In fact, JSY was announced around the same time as another series which also featured characters from DSN and as with most Mame stories they would have gone on to share a universe. Actors from both of these planned series had cameos as their DSN characters (Smart’s Leon) in LiTA. In the meantime, Smart and James were in workshops for JSY! Why would she hold workshops for a series she wasn’t serious about doing next? As you said, Google is free.
And to be clear, I do blame GIR. I do not bring any of this up to sway public sentiment on Smart but rather to shine a light on the shady acts of his company who’s sole purpose in existing is to act on his behalf and guide his career. A career they’ve done absolutely nothing for, except guide him off any and every worthwhile track of success. All of this premature bowing out of projects is their fault! Whether they had reasons or not is moot to the fact that it’s just not a good look! Optics are everything and it’s a manager’s job for their client to remain in good public standing yet ALL of their decisions where Smart is concerned have worked against him. Would you not agree?
To reiterate what I’ve said so many times here, Smart was the only reason I was even clued into Top Form in the first place as I had been following him since DSN, but fan of him or not a pattern is a pattern and quite frankly I’ve grown tired of thinking up excuses for him because it’s now beyond the point of writing off as coincidences. At the end of the day, he’s made his stance clear in his desire to stay with that unserious and unprofessional management company so it is what it is. The real tragedy is in seeing an artist at the peak of their career thanks to a breakout role go backwards like this.
edit: aaaaaaannnnnnnddddddd I’m blocked 😭
at least I think I am since I only see my replies now lol
Oh well. First time for everything I guess!
Protect your peace and get well soon, girl 🙏
It should also be noted that said company had no business or experience in production of any kind! They were an idol training "camp" of sorts that later pivoted into management but never really abandoned the idol training thing.
Top Form is like the 3rd or 4th series Smart and co. abandoned. Just prior to Art Adore En he was supposed to continue on with his Don't Say No character in the follow-up series Just Say Yes which would've seen his character go on to be the lead. Meanwhile, a month shy of DSN's finale airing, Yoma decides to cosplay as an amateur producer and enters into an agreement to co-produce Art Adore En, a series which at that point already had a filmed pilot trailer with a cast that kept announcing their departures from the project. Not long after Just Say Yes (which used to have a page here) is announced as being in the works Art Adore En decided to wake up from a dormant slumber and film a new pilot trailer with a bunch of new faces - including Smart. So naturally he could no longer commit to JSY (which at that point was still in the early stages of planning) on account of Art Adore En, so plans for JSY were effectively scrapped as a result.
There has been zero movement with Art Adore En since that 2nd pilot trailer with Smart was released. Yoma Entertainment was conveniently declared dead as soon as Smart booked TF and in its place Grand Ivory Record was born. Same company. Same personnel. Same shady moves. These are not professional people!
we need Singha to arrest the hairstylist responsible for it
But let me rephrase my earlier comment since you seem really peeved by it - Namping should give Keng the mic every so often because extrovert (can't relate!) or not I'd imagine having to be the "on" one all the time must get exhausting - and Keng for his part should really stop hiding behind Namping. They are equally doing each other no favors in this regard, in my opinion!
As for Namping being committed to the ship - he is! That's not to say Keng isn't but we are seeing him venture out to do solo things (which is a very normal thing btw) while Namping has not taken on any solo gigs, at least thus far. But again, in my original comment about this very thing I'm pretty sure I speculated on why that could be and it was said and meant in NP's defense.
Hope that clears things up some.
Edit: just want to add one more thing which I'm sure you will spin into a whole other something but maybe someone else in your fandom will stumble upon it and take something from it... while this series was airing the most off-putting thing about it for me were the shipper fans here - to the point I removed their next series from my watchlist entirely. Then it shifted and the most unbearable lot appeared to be super fans of NP. To the point where I will never watch anything he is in ever again for no other reason than his super fans. I say this because it only just occurred to me that in all of that time spent here I have not once encountered anything negative from any Keng solo fans. And some of my earliest comments on this page were criticisms of him. If they saw those comments or anything I've said about him since they let it be. This is a glaring contrast to the behavior of NP solos. Again, I am no fan of either and thought they were both weak in this series but where I had once been eager to check for them in the future as a pair or otherwise just to see if they improved in acting and/or chemistry with different material I would now only be interested in a Keng solo project. Because as is and as has been encountering a NP solo in the wild is exhausting and never fails to result in a bickering match for no reason other than a difference of opinion. As NP himself had said, his fans are a reflection of him. Some of y'all might think your fierce defense of him is on his behalf and doing him favors but really you're more likely sabotaging his career in the short term when he is at his peak popularity. And maybe that is the reason we aren't seeing him booking solo anything... it wouldn't be the first time fans have burnt bridges and squandered away opportunities for their favorite artist on account of their toxic behavior. Just something to think about. Or not.
Dunk, they can never make me hate you!
+ THANK YOU GMMTV for including text message contents in subtitles!
Can't wait to see who Boom will be mingling with.
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