I never comment on anything and have watched almost 200 dramas since I started last year. But I have to say I'm…
Not just this one. I've been noticing a trend, certain people who watch an episode or a couple episodes and then come here to the forums to bash the shows.
Everyone knows that BLs are almost always shot with: - a low budget - usually new actors - some logic issues on the scripts(often because of the budget)
Although I would love to have them get the budget to work out those script issues and do the extra takes to make it perfect, it isn't practical.
These issues are usually out of the control of the content creators. Otherwise you wouldn't see so much product placement in BLs!
So I'm thinking....if they don't like BL or romance why are they even watching? If they want something super polished, they should go support them financially so they can actually do that.
I try not to feed the trolls though. (It would just encourage them.)
Ok, so here's what we all really want to know: why did the boss keep the sales tags on his new jacket? Is he planning…
They didn't say (at least they didn't translate it if they did....). He didn't seem to be the type to wear and return, I think he may have simply missed taking off that tag. I've had that happen before, remove one tag but there was another one hidden away... Ultimately I think it was just a mechanism to show that he was 'optimistic/eager' for the date so he bought a new jacket.
Reminded me a bit of 'Long Time No See' in that aspect. :)
Yes I was wondering if that was going to happen as well. Korean BLs have been very hit or miss on the intimacy issue (mostly miss!) So it is always good to see it portrayed in a more realistic manner.
I didn't expect both hot kisses and the domestic atmosphere the next day. Todays episodes were really great. Funny,…
That is what one should be like for sure! (I won't mention the series that really upset me when portraying this aspect because I would end up on a big rant).
I really liked both leads in their formal suits! Maybe, except for huge bow ties - it could be a fashion though,…
This is a cultural thing.... My understanding is tootsie is a femme gay man who may or may not cross dress. But bear in mind that I'm not Thai and I'm mostly guessing based on things like 'Diary of Tootsies' ( https://mydramalist.com/16679-diary-of-tootsies ) and related shows.
For Kathoey it seems to be transgender? And are seen as being a 3rd gender in Thailand. (Also known as a ladyboy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey
Ultimately I think it boils down to having specific words to denote masculine/effeminate gay men based on where they view themselves on the spectrum.
Also, I do NOT know if it's considered to be 'polite' to use those terms if you are not a member of the 'community'. For example, before being reclaimed the word 'queer' was very derogatory.
So maybe someone who knows can chime in on whether those are considered to be derogatory terms when said by those outside the community.
It seems to me this show is making a big deal out of nothing. Looks like a story written by somebody who has never…
Yeah, I believe that there is a writing problem in some of these parts. Honestly I could do with a bit less focus on the office environment, but I guess that's part of their story.
To be fair though, I've seen other non-BL Thai shows, the writing quality TENDS (not always) to be on the poorer side from a western viewpoint. This may simply be cultural differences or something 'lost in translation'.
I think that it is important to remember that for those of us who do NOT speak Thai, we are really at the mercy of whoever translates the series, if they are not able to communicate it completely and accurately then it will definitely impact our perception of the story, the acting, writing, etc... this is why I tend to be more lenient on shows that are not in my native language (English).
Whoever wrote the Pat character didn't think to make him likeable or sympathetic
I think he's likable enough, but I do feel that there is a definite lack of background. If they added some more background he could become more (or less) of a character that we could sympathize with. Maybe it will get added later... Most of my issues with this show (and I ignore them mostly because I've seen so many of them that were worse), really boils down to the writing.
Everyone knows that BLs are almost always shot with:
- a low budget
- usually new actors
- some logic issues on the scripts(often because of the budget)
Although I would love to have them get the budget to work out those script issues and do the extra takes to make it perfect, it isn't practical.
These issues are usually out of the control of the content creators. Otherwise you wouldn't see so much product placement in BLs!
So I'm thinking....if they don't like BL or romance why are they even watching? If they want something super polished, they should go support them financially so they can actually do that.
I try not to feed the trolls though. (It would just encourage them.)
I LIKE the episode length to be longer than the little 20 minute episodes done by a lot of others.
If it's too long for them then they can cut it into 7 parts and just watch a little bit a day! LoL
4 of 8 episodes aired....so naturally there is gonna be a twist somewhere.
And I like BOTH!
He didn't seem to be the type to wear and return, I think he may have simply missed taking off that tag.
I've had that happen before, remove one tag but there was another one hidden away...
Ultimately I think it was just a mechanism to show that he was 'optimistic/eager' for the date so he bought a new jacket.
But Jun does need knocked out of that mindset... not sure it was the best way to go about it though.
So it is always good to see it portrayed in a more realistic manner.
Controlling emotions and not jumping to conclusions.
That's something that is very difficult for a lot of people to do (controlling emotions and not jumping to conclusions I mean).
My understanding is tootsie is a femme gay man who may or may not cross dress.
But bear in mind that I'm not Thai and I'm mostly guessing based on things like 'Diary of Tootsies' ( https://mydramalist.com/16679-diary-of-tootsies ) and related shows.
For Kathoey it seems to be transgender? And are seen as being a 3rd gender in Thailand. (Also known as a ladyboy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey
Ultimately I think it boils down to having specific words to denote masculine/effeminate gay men based on where they view themselves on the spectrum.
Also, I do NOT know if it's considered to be 'polite' to use those terms if you are not a member of the 'community'. For example, before being reclaimed the word 'queer' was very derogatory.
So maybe someone who knows can chime in on whether those are considered to be derogatory terms when said by those outside the community.
To be clear I'm not saying that Up is in any way less attractive...just looked a little different from when he was in Lovely Writer. :)
To be fair though, I've seen other non-BL Thai shows, the writing quality TENDS (not always) to be on the poorer side from a western viewpoint. This may simply be cultural differences or something 'lost in translation'.
I think that it is important to remember that for those of us who do NOT speak Thai, we are really at the mercy of whoever translates the series, if they are not able to communicate it completely and accurately then it will definitely impact our perception of the story, the acting, writing, etc... this is why I tend to be more lenient on shows that are not in my native language (English).
Maybe it will get added later...
Most of my issues with this show (and I ignore them mostly because I've seen so many of them that were worse), really boils down to the writing.