Its not just any dique though its the delicious kind, attached to a tall statuesque of a man! 🥰😋👌👌
But initially, Jun wasn't allowed to be outside on his own, because he was seen as a minx, who wouldn't be able to handle the big bad world by himself. He needed Tai or Sorn to guide him in everything. 😉
I don’t think I’ve disliked a main character as much as I dislike Sorn, I swear. I can’t with him…
It totally is, but it's a BL, so everything has to be tied up into a pretty BL bow, with all of the couples together, forever in never-ending love with one another.
Ever wonder why we watch what we watch?It’s rarely for the reasons we admit.Take Marvel movies, for instance.…
"It reminds me that stories don’t just reflect who we are—they reveal what we’ve lived."
It has been an interesting experience, because commentators have been really honest about interpreting the behaviors of these characters through their own experiences, and that yes, MY STUBBORN is a Yaoi fever dream brought to vivid visual format in this BL, we don't live in the world of Yaoi nor BL.
Sorn and Tai are still withholding, controlling individuals, who are terrified in telling the men that they supposedly care for, that they are in love with them, because once "I Love You" comes out of their mouths, their sense of control is gone.
While we have Jun and Champ finally realizing that they are the ones that truly have control in who they will allow into their lives as a long-term romantic partner. I don't recall how long Tai and Champ have been friends, nor how long they've also maintained a sexual relationship with one another, but it seems like Tai only turns on the charm, is when he needs to get his nut released. Champ doesn't want to take the risk of moving beyond being friends with Tai and has become resolved in knowing that he's okay with having sex with him.
While the resolution of the relationship between June and Penny was completely done offscreen, yet again proving that these GL pairings are always an afterthought in these BLs.
I don’t think I’ve disliked a main character as much as I dislike Sorn, I swear. I can’t with him…
Well, let's be completely honest here. Sorn really isn't supposed to be "redeemed". He's supposedly always "loved" Jun, but his issues with almost being jailed as a sexual predator made him leary of admitting his feelings, so in this BL world, him "teaching" Jun how to appreciate the joy of sex (with only him), was in Sorn's mind the only way he could allow himself to be with Jun. He didn't realize that his need for Jun would overcome his need to hide his feelings. Now, he's ready to give up some, and it only is some of his questionable behavior, in order to get Jun to let him back into his life, and his bed. Sorn is to manipulative, demanding, controlling, jealous and possessive, but as long as "I love you" has been uttered by him, then everything is okay.
I heard some Hollywood couple, now divorced of course, had a prenup that required sex a certain number of times…
Jun is establishing boundaries, like a good little Uke and even though Sorn is continuing to push those boundaries, as a Seme is supposed do, he's enjoying that Jun is still allowing him to be in his presence.
The inclusion of Tos as the last minute "rival" for Tai to prove his true love towards Champ is totally unnecessary, because Champ will accept Tai in the series finale next week.
I enjoy that we have a BL that actually portrays the sexual desire, need, and love these couples have for one another as a positive thing. The playfulness of them teasing each other.
I still think that if Ton actually does support P and Pan in their personal relationship with one another, that he would stop insisting that they must keep their relationship from being found out by the shippers of PJ and Pan.
"Penny deserved better than being written as a clingy, sexually aggressive distraction. The real crime? She’s…
"She’s assertive about what she wants? She’s pushy and annoying. Jun is passive and gets swept along? He’s sweet and deserving of protection. It’s wild."
It’s very weird and wild, because many of these original stories that are adapted into BLs are written by women. These production companies pay people to seek and research stories that have high ratings and view counts, so they are choosing plots/themes that they know are popular, hoping that that popularity will turn into a successful BL series in return. So they continue to keep writing these female characters in these two disparate ways all the time.
"What shows have you seen that actually do female characters justice? I’m always looking for BL that breaks out of these patterns."
Hmm... Gameboys The Series, Cherry Magic (Japanese version), My Love Mix Up (both Japanese and Thailand versions), and Ossan's Love, and their numerous sequels/spinoffs (except the Thailand version).
Pearl, Nozomi, Hashimoto/Matmi, and the amazing Choko/Francesca. They were given agency, interests, their own goals, and lives outside of just being supportive to the main male leads, and their love lives. Pearl got her own spinoff from Gameboys.
I received a lot of interesting comments about my post that I don't think Sorn and Jun should end up together.…
"He still was playing games with Jun's emotions (i.e., "No, I'm telling you when I first liked you. You tell when you first liked me."). I paraphrased, by the way."
Sorn is still playing the control game with Jun, but this time Jun is aware of Sorn's need to feel like he's the one in control. Jun now knows that he's the one that can actually deem what he wants to happen with Sorn. Sorn will listen to him now, especially when he wants to have sex with him again.
Jun pushed Sorn away twice, when he couldn't keep his tongue from being included in their makeout session in the bathroom. Sorn stopped advancing on him. Jun noticed it. Any other time, in previous episodes, Sorn would have pulled Jun inside of one of those stalls and continued on with his "teaching" of Jun.
Sadly, in the BL world, this is viewed as "growth" for both Sorn and Jun.
If Jun’s Cool with Sorn, Who Are We to Object?Fair point. Jun has agency—and if he decides Sorn is worth the…
"Penny deserved better than being written as a clingy, sexually aggressive distraction. The real crime? She’s vilified for agency, while Jun is infantilized for passivity. Classic."
Amen!! Penny and Jun are the same, regarding their places in their relationships with June and Sorn, but Penny is viewed and treated by a segment of the viewingaudience (and sadly any female character) as this unnecessary entity, because they're not written to help in getting the main male leads together, nor written as the proxy version of the fujohsi ( female characters screaming in the background in glee over their co-workers, fellow high school/college students being romantically involved with one another i.e. History's Stay Away From Me, History4 Close To You, Fish Upon The Sky).
I won't speak for anyone else, but I am just so tired of seeing this portrayal of so-called "supportive" female characters in BLs.
We cannot give you SornJun NCs for two episodes so please take these ThaiChamp! 😁
That's exactly what those sscene were between Thai and Champ. A placeholder for NC scenes we would have gotten for Sorn and Jun. We have literally had an NC scene between those two characters in almost every episode, except for episode 9 and episode 10. Sorn has to put in work, effort, and emotion to get Jun's cookie again.
I agree with what you're saying about Sorn not being the nicest to Jun, but I think he is just not into anything…
"I think that's messed up. For once, I'd like to see a BL where the arrogant, SOB, seme/top actually get that they deserve and that's "is not get the guy in the end and the guy get with someone better!". LMFAO!!!"
Sadly, that will probably never, ever happen in a BL. It breaks the BL fantasy of the Seme that "changes" for the Uke.
It’s ridiculous in the most Japanese way possible—dead serious about being unserious. The drama, the awkwardness,…
It has been two years, but Abe Alan and Akutsu Nichika have brilliantly picked up and continued the absurd chaotic, and loving madness of Akafuji and Aoyanaga.
There are already some great takes on Jun, but my ego got challenged and I have to be fair, so here’s a breakdown…
"Jun has bowed and accepted Sorn's behaviour all this time, hoping love could form between the cracks if he does what's he told like a good boy, only to hear that Sorn is actively against loving him."
Which is behavior that sadly happens in a ton of real-life relationships. You hope, hope, and hope that your patience with them, your support of them m, your acceptance of their behavior towards you, and finally your feelings for them will CHANGE them to be the "perfect" guy for you. Sigh.
"In reality, Jun shouldn't be dating anyone, honestly, but this is BL land, so hopefully, Jun is allowed to be himself for an episode at least, while Sorn grovels and pays back the emotional devastation he owes Jun."
Agreed. I want to see Jun actually trying to understand and figure out what he wants, what he needs, his goals, and putting himself first, over any attempts in allowing himself to get back with Sorn. Not due to me wanting to see Sorn "punished" and groveling.
I want Jun to see his own value in himself outside of being the good son, and dutiful "junior" to everyone else in his life. That he's more than just Sorn's naive, foolish, and "stubborn" sex buddy.
There was only one part I truly liked in the latest episode.Let’s talk about Tontae’s uncle. He might work…
I thought that scene was touching and explored the difference between the generations of gay men, and their individual experiences. Tontae's uncle was encouraging, hopeful, and supportive in telling him to not squander this moment/opportunity/experience with Victor. That Tontae isn't "bad" for feeling more than friendship for this other man.
Yet, Uncle specifically told Tontae to not talk about his previous relationship with another man. Uncle may be known in their village about his own sexuality. Maybe the man in his former youth isn't out yet? Maybe he's still married, with a wife and family of his own?
Sorn's brother has finally been able to give him the emotional reality slap that he's needed regarding the acceptance of his true feelings about Jun.
"Don't forget. You're just the guy that taught me about sex!" Jun has finally reached his limit with Sorn. He's exactly right. Sorn was the one that set the initial limits of their FWB situation. He's the one that's in utter denial about his real feelings for Jun.
This belief that they have about Jun really pisses me off, and makes me totally understand why BL has become the "safe haven" for many viewers. Jun should be allowed to explore his life, options/choices, and to make mistakes among the way. This constant need to make the "junior" think that they have absolutely no say in the choices they (he or she) wants to make in their own lives.
That horrible facial hair on Sorn. These makeup/hair stylists in Thailand need help.
Rumor has it there’s no NC scene this Sunday.And I just have one question:WHY ARE WE BEING PUNISHED FOR LOVING…
😃 😀 😄
"Let’s take attendance real quick: 💅 Thai palace BL? Feet-kissing, violin strings, royal tension. 💥 Boxing BL? A slap, a sob, and a makeup scene that broke OSHA laws. 🔪 Mafia BL? One murder, one guilt spiral, one floorboard-shattering hookup.
And now I hear My Stubborn might give us… dialogue?
BABE. Be so serious."
Well, for 8 weeks we had viewers wondering, "Where's the love?!" between the two main leads. So, we got to "reset" the storyline to get Sorn in the place to have the audience seeing him regret his behavior towards Jun. Along with seeing Jun finally realize that he deserves to have his feelings acknowledged (not accepted yet) by Sorn.
ETA: Thailand BL Travel Japan Tour Guide: P and Pan finally exchanged "I Love You" while they teased each other in bed together.
It has been an interesting experience, because commentators have been really honest about interpreting the behaviors of these characters through their own experiences, and that yes, MY STUBBORN is a Yaoi fever dream brought to vivid visual format in this BL, we don't live in the world of Yaoi nor BL.
Sorn and Tai are still withholding, controlling individuals, who are terrified in telling the men that they supposedly care for, that they are in love with them, because once "I Love You" comes out of their mouths, their sense of control is gone.
While we have Jun and Champ finally realizing that they are the ones that truly have control in who they will allow into their lives as a long-term romantic partner. I don't recall how long Tai and Champ have been friends, nor how long they've also maintained a sexual relationship with one another, but it seems like Tai only turns on the charm, is when he needs to get his nut released. Champ doesn't want to take the risk of moving beyond being friends with Tai and has become resolved in knowing that he's okay with having sex with him.
While the resolution of the relationship between June and Penny was completely done offscreen, yet again proving that these GL pairings are always an afterthought in these BLs.
The inclusion of Tos as the last minute "rival" for Tai to prove his true love towards Champ is totally unnecessary, because Champ will accept Tai in the series finale next week.
I still think that if Ton actually does support P and Pan in their personal relationship with one another, that he would stop insisting that they must keep their relationship from being found out by the shippers of PJ and Pan.
😃 😀 😄
It’s very weird and wild, because many of these original stories that are adapted into BLs are written by women. These production companies pay people to seek and research stories that have high ratings and view counts, so they are choosing plots/themes that they know are popular, hoping that that popularity will turn into a successful BL series in return. So they continue to keep writing these female characters in these two disparate ways all the time.
"What shows have you seen that actually do female characters justice? I’m always looking for BL that breaks out of these patterns."
Hmm... Gameboys The Series, Cherry Magic (Japanese version), My Love Mix Up (both Japanese and Thailand versions), and Ossan's Love, and their numerous sequels/spinoffs (except the Thailand version).
Pearl, Nozomi, Hashimoto/Matmi, and the amazing Choko/Francesca. They were given agency, interests, their own goals, and lives outside of just being supportive to the main male leads, and their love lives. Pearl got her own spinoff from Gameboys.
Sorn is still playing the control game with Jun, but this time Jun is aware of Sorn's need to feel like he's the one in control. Jun now knows that he's the one that can actually deem what he wants to happen with Sorn. Sorn will listen to him now, especially when he wants to have sex with him again.
Jun pushed Sorn away twice, when he couldn't keep his tongue from being included in their makeout session in the bathroom. Sorn stopped advancing on him. Jun noticed it. Any other time, in previous episodes, Sorn would have pulled Jun inside of one of those stalls and continued on with his "teaching" of Jun.
Sadly, in the BL world, this is viewed as "growth" for both Sorn and Jun.
Amen!! Penny and Jun are the same, regarding their places in their relationships with June and Sorn, but Penny is viewed and treated by a segment of the viewingaudience (and sadly any female character) as this unnecessary entity, because they're not written to help in getting the main male leads together, nor written as the proxy version of the fujohsi ( female characters screaming in the background in glee over their co-workers, fellow high school/college students being romantically involved with one another i.e. History's Stay Away From Me, History4 Close To You, Fish Upon The Sky).
I won't speak for anyone else, but I am just so tired of seeing this portrayal of so-called "supportive" female characters in BLs.
Sadly, that will probably never, ever happen in a BL. It breaks the BL fantasy of the Seme that "changes" for the Uke.
Which is behavior that sadly happens in a ton of real-life relationships. You hope, hope, and hope that your patience with them, your support of them m, your acceptance of their behavior towards you, and finally your feelings for them will CHANGE them to be the "perfect" guy for you. Sigh.
"In reality, Jun shouldn't be dating anyone, honestly, but this is BL land, so hopefully, Jun is allowed to be himself for an episode at least, while Sorn grovels and pays back the emotional devastation he owes Jun."
Agreed. I want to see Jun actually trying to understand and figure out what he wants, what he needs, his goals, and putting himself first, over any attempts in allowing himself to get back with Sorn. Not due to me wanting to see Sorn "punished" and groveling.
I want Jun to see his own value in himself outside of being the good son, and dutiful "junior" to everyone else in his life. That he's more than just Sorn's naive, foolish, and "stubborn" sex buddy.
Yet, Uncle specifically told Tontae to not talk about his previous relationship with another man. Uncle may be known in their village about his own sexuality. Maybe the man in his former youth isn't out yet? Maybe he's still married, with a wife and family of his own?
"Don't forget. You're just the guy that taught me about sex!" Jun has finally reached his limit with Sorn. He's exactly right. Sorn was the one that set the initial limits of their FWB situation. He's the one that's in utter denial about his real feelings for Jun.
This belief that they have about Jun really pisses me off, and makes me totally understand why BL has become the "safe haven" for many viewers. Jun should be allowed to explore his life, options/choices, and to make mistakes among the way. This constant need to make the "junior" think that they have absolutely no say in the choices they (he or she) wants to make in their own lives.
That horrible facial hair on Sorn. These makeup/hair stylists in Thailand need help.
"Let’s take attendance real quick:
💅 Thai palace BL? Feet-kissing, violin strings, royal tension.
💥 Boxing BL? A slap, a sob, and a makeup scene that broke OSHA laws.
🔪 Mafia BL? One murder, one guilt spiral, one floorboard-shattering hookup.
And now I hear My Stubborn might give us… dialogue?
BABE. Be so serious."
Well, for 8 weeks we had viewers wondering, "Where's the love?!" between the two main leads. So, we got to "reset" the storyline to get Sorn in the place to have the audience seeing him regret his behavior towards Jun. Along with seeing Jun finally realize that he deserves to have his feelings acknowledged (not accepted yet) by Sorn.
ETA: Thailand BL Travel Japan Tour Guide: P and Pan finally exchanged "I Love You" while they teased each other in bed together.