VixenByNight72

Mark, Ohm, and the rest of the cast have a lovely onscreen chemistry, but I truly believe that for however many years, GMMTV was looking for the perfect leads for this series, they should have focused on how to adapt from book to BL. I'm glad that there is support from the fans AND the company in moving forward in establishing Mark and Ohm as a new CP for GMMTV.

Jorn has been obsessed with Chain from the first episode. Jorn has kept being mad at Chain as some sort of fixated hobby, while Sun and those two other enablers have looked on in amusement. Jorn's ex girlfriend left him, for whatever reason due to not wanting to be with him. Chain never "took" Jorn's girl. Hell, even regarding the situation with Sun's girlfriend, she was the one that literally made the first move on Chain in front of Sun.

Sometimes we don’t call it what it is because it’s framed in a way that looks sexy or romantic but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s still rape. And while it’s okay for fiction to explore dark themes and complex dynamics, we need to be honest about what we’re seeing. Just because someone stops resisting or kisses back under pressure that doesn’t mean they gave real consent."

Thank you!!

I'm going to be honest, I am enjoying the connection between TK and Victor, much to my NanKrai 4Ever preference. The storyline is definitely solid regarding the growing feelings between TK and Victor, with NanKrai having to see his unrequited love enjoying his time with another man.

I'm so glad that Dan is at least aware of what's going on in their group of friends, and has gotten the other guys to try to cheer up NanKrai.

I get that the focus in BLs is on the love between the male characters, but some of these series make it quite clear that they see these women characters as fools to be mocked and made fun of at all times. How can these ladies NOT see that neither TK, Victor and especially Nankrai have absolutely no romantic/sexual interest in women?

When she dragged out that ladder, I just went "Oh Well".

This is exactly why showing scenes of consent in these series are vital and important. Chain was attempting to escape at that point and literally throughout his abduction, assault and rape by Jorn. The only reason he was able to get away, was due to Jorn taking him to the hospital.

I don’t know why TPTB felt like those two particular characters and their storyline had to be turned into a violent experience of harassment, kidnapping, and rape filmed under the totally false note of "intimate seduction" with lit candles, a sheer, draped gauzy lens, and music. Especially setting it between Chain's sister Rin, finally realizing that she feels more than just "best friend vibes" for Ploy, and trying to make Sun's sister's invasive interest in spying on him and Nu as something jovial and light.

Wow.

This series attempts to do a fond "back to its roots" retelling of the early years of Thai BL, but all I am seeing is just how horrible all these tropes truly are.

You know that they won't opt to fast forward. They're worried that they might miss something they will probably dislike.

OMG...your updates for days 7 and 8 are brilliant.

"Writer 1: Let’s see, you got so bored with Chai — Champ and Thai, that is — that their storyline's now as bland as camomile broth. Penny breaks up with Porn in a scene so amicable that Gwyneth Paltrow would look at it and say, ‘that’s bullshit’. And then, all of a sudden, Penny is just ready to scissor Jun in the middle of the office…
Thunder: Oh please, as if you BL writers were ever interested in the romantic life of lesbians.
The Producer: I mean, that's fair.

The Producer: Meanwhile, please welcome our new addition to the team... Chad.
Mr Thighs: He’s straight, isn’t he?

The Producer: Yes. I’ve brought him in to advise us on the GL scenes.
Thunder: You do realise I was joking last week, right?

The Producer: So?"

After last week's episode, with the less than 5 minute screentime of the sexual scene with Penny and June, you would have thought that this series had forgotten that the series leads are based on two gay/bisexual male characters with the reactions of utter distaste from certain viewers regarding their scene.

As I get older, I am constantly taken aback by how closed minded some viewers are regarding having GL characters in BLs and BL characters in GLs.

"Jun was definitely, DEFINITELY, all in. He wanted what he got and he loved it. I don't see how it looked like anything else."

Maybe it was too sexual for some viewers, but this series is focusing on how some relationships do start with physical, passionate, raw sexual desire between individuals. This is what we are seeing between these characters, especially Jun. It feels like to me, that they don't want to accept that Jun does like, enjoy, and seek out his sexual relationship with Sorn.

Yes, they have not expressed never-ending love and devotion to each other yet. It will happen, because this is a BL, but it will happen when TPTB have deemed it necessary.

"it's a bit self-defeating to want ukes to have more self-assurance and agency, and then, when they do have it, and are shown enjoying sex, people still want to believe that he didn't consent to it."

Thank you. With each and every sexual encounter we have seen between Jun and Sorn, Jun has consent to those acts. He's enjoying what he's experiencing, and that's refreshing to see as a viewer.

"Yet, scatological humour is perfectly fine."

And expected in these series.

"They are professionals, and seem aware that it would do wrong by us, and gay people especially, to be half-arsed or worse, look uncomfortable, in their portrayal of intimate scenes."

How many times have we seen posts, in which some viewers wonder why a particular performer has been cast in a role/series in which they're supposed to portray a character, who's supposedly in love with another character of the same sex, and it's just not believable?

Jun's journey should be supported, because I know that I am tired of that trope of the Uke not being allowed to express and exercise his desire, that has to be displayed as to not turn off viewers, who aren't used to seeing it portrayed. Jun wasn't even bothered by the clearly visible hand marks all around his neck. He, as well as Sorn knows how easily Jun's skin can bruise. Not a care in the world to cover/hide those marks.

But, Jun's supposed to not act/behave as though he actually enjoys the sexual experience he's having with Sorn. He's supposed to behave as though he just wants to cuddle, and be taken care of by Sorn.

Thanks for providing the link.

But, as BL viewers do we really need the "coding" to get a better understanding of the characters and the "roles" that they portray in this series?

It's pretty interesting how this series was able to get away with making this BL, along with showcasing the domestic abuse that women face daily at the hands of their husbands, and fathers.

Wen Ci's mom knew that the spirit inside of her daughter's body wasn't really her, and that Gu Shen been knew that his "brother" Gu Chen had been reincarnated in Wen Ci. That's why he realized how much knowledge she had about him. He was always around Gu Chen.

"It feels like it's doing something different and new than what has already become a standard Thai GL pattern. A butch lead, and possibly heading towards exploring polyamory? Yes please and thank you."

B-Friend does feel a bit new and different from the other Thai GLs that have been released since GAP The Series. Lan and Dawan are an established couple, who the employees at the resort are familiar with them. While Lalin and Lan have known of each other, since Lalin was in college, they never touched upon their feelings for one another. Lalin definitely has unrequited feelings for Lan, yet she's found herself attracted towards Dawan.

We also have multiple GL pairings, and characters that all don't seem to come out from the pages of a fashion magazine.