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Thank you! Funny to see the director getting all excited with ZZH's suggestions;)

Me too, I'd definitely watch his debut:) I need to catch up with watching bts, cause I feel like I'm missing a lot. BTW are there any bts/leaked vids on the landing scene when they fall off that bridge on the way to longyuan cabinet? Cause I think that's one scene that is sort of obviously missing from the show...

Love this! I wonder... Did they just add/dub it now, cause fans liked it so much? or did they mess up with the Taiwanese version and did damage control with the special ep on yt?:D In any case, there's still 2 weeks left, so I'm hoping for more.

Ps;) So true! I can't find that vid now... but I loved how it was ZZH who told GJ to hide them slightly behind the fan and how he should move his head, when WKX tells what he saw when he was drugged. And it fits both dialogue versions so well. With the mama story, it's endearing how it suggests WKX gonna tell something scandalous, but he goes with childish. And with the other story ...it fits well too;)

Noooo I don't think GJ even knows what subtlety is, let alone how to portray it;) And ZZH's WKX would lack that child-like exuberance and innocence that is all GJ. The producer's instincts were spot-on on the casting. I can't imagine anyone else in these roles.

It's all true what you said. But personally I can't easily untie this show from the context of it being a danmei adaptation, coming right in the middle of this BL craziness, and how heavily it hints at the romantic nature of their relationship in what's shown on screen, implied, or used for the marketing efforts. Is anyone advertising it as your next great national epic? I focus more on the main couple simply because it's the part that imo was done very well. I have some beef with the background plot. I don't like how it was resolved so I focus on the part I liked.

SPOILER ALERT............

As for 知己 and the dying part. For you it may be all standard wuxia but please don't blame international viewers when our brains go straight to Romeo and Juliet:) Cause that's the only origin for this trope for me. And since it was rather blatantly done for dramatics and doesn't add much to the plot, then the next logical thought is ...romance;)

Umm, why would you think WKX died? I mean practically everything YBY says sort of proves he won't... He heavily hints a few times that he lived so long just so he could help them. He also clearly states he 'won't allow' anyone to die before him and will give WKX his cultivation power. Not to mention he basically smiles when he tells WKX about the 'sacrifice' needed. Honestly, how likely is it that YBY who lived alone for so long would sentence Zhishu to that same lonely fate?! It's not like he didn't have a front row seat to their blossoming love;) There are illogical plot falls in the story but I thought psychological credibility was handled well.

BTW did you know that what we hear is not what the actors really said? Here's what they supposedly really say at the end, according to lip reading netizens;) https://twitter.com/xiaomilu__/status/1376693596137611265?s=21

Same here:) I got totally seduced by this series, but really wish they didn't go with the suspence and dramatics at the expense of plot coherence there. That patchwork narrative, with key events explained later or shown through flashbacks, really disrupted the pacing and the emotional flow of the story for me. Still irks me that we didn't get a proper goodbye scene for YBY. That rushed 1min flashback was so underwhelming...

Lol, so true. Maybe they just released it too quickly? I thought this series had a rather tight plot for the first 20+ eps, still confused how it got so messy by the end. I think the no of episodes is fine, it's the editing that's the problem. How come our favourite pair of creepy villains gets to talk for 8min straight on screen, but we never see many plot-crucial scenes, like those between Zishu and his old friends?!

I didn't have that with WOH cause I just wanted to catch up with everyone, open those spoiler comments and be able to use social media again:D But I've been watching Winter Begonia at the same time and now I'm getting anxiety every time I'm about to click that 'next episode' button, cause there are so few left!! And I sooo don't want it to be over. I don't know if I should feel blessed or cursed to get emotionally blown over twice in one month;)

Not sure what's your definition of BL, but yes, this is obviously a love story - from attraction and flirting early on, to the deepest of bonds by the end. First time I watched it, I got tunnel vision for those two and couldn't care less about the rest of the plot;) As Saffy88 wrote, there's lots of relationship stuff both shown and implied in the subtext, reminiscent of oldschool historical romances, with some explicit lines spoken by the actors and then not very carefully overdubbed. The one similarity with TU I can see are the BAMF moments when one of them arrives in the nick of time to save the other... There are lots of those in WOH;)

Making your own stuff is fun:) I just noticed that custom embroidery costs the same as print, so I'm gonna go with that. It's got to be simpler so I'll have a fan and A-xu's bottle maybe... Still thinking on the details.

That's so harsh lol. I'm sure GJ is working very hard to give everyone an unforgettable audial experience;) I totally fail at fangirling. I'd rather go to 3 different concerts for that money.

Thank you so much for that idea! I'm stealing it to make my own design and custom print:) I've tried to make one with them both on the mountain in that last pose but the shop said it's not gonna come out well so I dropped it for now.

Ouch, the original prices were already ridiculously high... Didn't they do personalized tickets? I can't believe people are willing to pay that much to listen to GJ:D But OTOH what I wouldn't give to go to a live concert now, everything here moved to next year:(

They are a combustible mix;) The pointed barbs suggest they got to know each other pretty well, and they seem to be very comfortable in each other's company. I have to say most of the time I can't tell if ZZH is being serious or sarcastic when talking about GJ... At this point, I pretty much assume he's always just messing with him. Maybe GJ gets stuck, cause he can't tell if he just got insulted or complimented and needs to first replay ZZH's comments in his mind:)

Lol, that's why I think ZZH teased this great acting performance out of GJ... Half of Lao Wen's fixated stares are probably GJ thinking up comebacks to his teasing between takes, mentally preparing for ZZH going off-script ...again, or feeling self-satisfied that, at least when they're shooting a scene, he's got the upper hand :D

This show has great educational value! I've learned how to call someone 'crazy' in Chinese in at least 25 different ways:D

I wouldn't mind love triangles so much if they ended in polyamory;)

Does using walnuts as a deadly weapon to save your soulmate count?:D

To me, the biggest problem with this whole thing is that we don't get any backstory explaining their past and how they got with this 'unique' dynamic , so we're free to assume things... Even if we didn't have the word 'father' stuck in the back of our heads, we still see scorpion making puppy love eyes, going full possesive mode and repeatedly trying to get closer to ZJ, for what purpose I'm not even gonna guess:D So that 'father' word was an unfortunate translation error of judgement, but even if it was changed to 'foster father', I don't think it wouldn cleanse the ickiness from that relationship;)