I get your point, sure, there were probably a thousand better ways Aiwarin could’ve gotten that information…
With the series, I definitely get that they're doing their own thing and they're going the dramatic route. When I watch it, I actually separate the two in my mind to not let what I've read over shadow it, but I'm gonna still have some critique.
Also, the novel was most definitely not mostly about sex. Not even in the least. Come on now. Maybe you're getting it confused with Denied Love. I'm rolling with both versions and I have nothing but trust in my girls LM and SY, regardless.
The show is doing great but couple of things. There is a way to create drama without going to the extreme. I truly believe they have the characterization of Aiwarin and Maewika fucked up in some parts. Please bear with me as I go.
1. Aiwarin drugging May. Why? Why? Listen to me. Aiwarin is a very confident and intelligent person. She knows who she is and she acts the way she does, because she knows how hard she works and she truly knows her stuff. She wouldn't drug someone, least of all Maewika. Absolutely not. Over her rich, hot, dead body.
2. She's filthy rich and has people that can get information for her, so there is no need for her to get into May's phone. May is the one with the least experience, and while Aiwarin doesn't think May is weak (she believes in May so much it's not even funny), she knows where her strength lies. If she doesn't know something, she'll say it. I wish they went with the novel version of how they traded information with each other.
3. After drugging Maewika, she's confessing to her and asking to date? This part happened too soon. They should've made them spend more time together to get to know each other and then maybe do this in Episode 6 at least, to make it flow better.
4. Maewika. Now, this girl is stubborn so they got that right, and while she was legit falling for Aiwarin before she voiced it, she wasn't going to just accept dating Aiwarin that easily, even with the fact that it would've been kept a secret. Absolutely not. She barely knows Aiwarin and for the most part when she's around her, she's being teased and not seeing the real her which would leave her confused and this girl is not a fan of being in the dark . She was always asking questions trying to figure out what Aiwarin wanted from her and why she took a liking to her. As weak as she was when it came to Aiwarin, she was still about her business.
5. Maewika has a way of doing things by the book and while even Aiwarin tells her it won't always work, she sticks with it because that's the person she is and how she does her business. Her and Aiwarin have different styles with how they conduct their business, so she would not try to "hack" into Aiwarin's laptop to get information. She takes too much pride in her work. Superior is respected for how by the book they are.
6. The girls actually really respected each other, so it was always mentioned how they would let business be business and not ruin what they were doing together even before they were sure of each other.
Anyways, that's what I had to say. I can't wait to see what else they are going to do. Also, I hope Aiwarin takes over that company and leaves her dusty, abusive ass father broke. With father's like that, they need to bond and find a way to take over the companies. Aiwarin's mom was probably running for her life.
While there are big changes to the plot compared to the novel and some might feel jarring to those who read it,…
No, they only started officially dating after the bidding was over. They appeared as a couple at the winner's announcement event.
They were in a semi-relationship before that, though, as they slept with each other numerous times (in the novel, they actually sleep with each other when Maple visits Ai in the bar in ep 2) and hanged out a bunch. It was basically just Maple's insistence that they wait until the bidding is over that prevented them from getting together earlier, so I'd say they were de facto dating but not de jure.
Replying tokdramakahani•Aug 10, 2025•Liked Aug 16, 2025
I really adore LMSY, but having read the novel before starting this show makes me dislike this show so much. We…
That's what I was thinking. They could've kept the novel characterizations but upped the drama. We already have billions of toxic drama characters. I don't want this to be the norm. I'm still loving the series.
I really adore LMSY, but having read the novel before starting this show makes me dislike this show so much. We barely have good GL shows these days, with so much eyes on queer media, having representation where 1. FL kisses the other without consent 2. Drugging FL is totally completely normalized (& how did LM's character ask to be with SY after this is something I cant fanthom) - does so much harm to representation than good.
They changed the characters so much, (I would have understood if they wanted to up the drama but this is literally a character assassination) and the pacing is so off , oh boy. Really hoping LMSY get a project without change next time coz change really knows how to butcher everything good, first affair, now this
Just saw the GYam apology scene of Episode 3 on the Teerak Thai GL FB page — already at 197K views and 11K likes by Saturday 7:58 PM!
This is honestly the most appealing secondary couple and storyline I’ve ever seen. Their acting is phenomenal, and the way they complement the main duo with such a heartwarming storyline is pure chef’s kiss. Truly, the Fantastic Four!
Brilliant casting, Change 2561!
Lilly and Belle’s sweet interactions and incredible chemistry make my heart flutter every time. 💕 They don’t just have the Gorgeous Chemistry and Irresistible Face Cards — they bring humor, charm, and powerful emotion even in the shortest scenes. So impactful and beautifully written!
when i commented that on the youtube trailer someone came to tell me that "the novel is so good"... still…
If you look at it like this, you're definitely right. I wasn't looking at it in that kind of depth and more on a surface level, which is bad enough if you ask me.
Your 3rd paragraph is basically my go to when someone asks me why people in Japan don't want to legalize any LGBT laws even though the majority of the public is in favor of it. The whole "we don't want to endanger the concept of a traditional family" shit the government spouts for a number of years now is just them trying to keep the "old rules" alive of a family with a working husband and a wife that's the servant and mother. But I don't want to rant about Japanese society, that's a book I'd rather not open in a comments section of a Thai series.
I think the problem studios and producers have with introducing the "lesbian unique dynamics" idea is that they probably think they'd alienate non-lesbians (or at least the non-LGBT audience). Especially in patriarchic societies like Asia. That's why they always go back to the "higher powers" plot line because it gives the characters an obstacle everyone can rally against.
I think Pluto and Reverse 4 You are the best things we got, so far, when it comes to ignoring the "people with more power" storyline, at least for the main characters. Unfortunately R4U was extremely rushed and the ending was pretty butchered. And while Pluto also had some form of that plot line, the biggest obstacle of the main couple was overcoming guilt and self-doubt, at least in my opinion.
I think Thai studios should branch out and buy some Yuri Manga stories. They are often about high school (because of your 3rd paragraph probably), but they're more about acceptance and growing up than random people trying to get between them. Some studio that's known for making a series close to source material should buy Yagate Kimi ni Naru (Bloom Into You), it's just the best (Asian) Yuri/GL story.
Just a sidenote. The people you mentioned in your 2nd part, especially the one from Affair absolutely ruined the drama for me. The forgiving hero that threatened people and then almost killed himself with a gun in the process after breaking into an apartment. That guy would've majorly pissed me off in any plot, sorry for the language ;).
Replying tohandsomesaddie•Aug 3, 2025•Liked Aug 16, 2025
when i commented that on the youtube trailer someone came to tell me that "the novel is so good"... still…
If we think about the problem radically, it *is* always rooted in the patriarchy. The family comes between them because they can’t imagine their daughter living without a man (Gap, Blank, Dream, The Loyal Pin, The Secret of Us); or a man inserts himself because he feels entitled to her (Affair, Apple My Love, Dream); or even the characters themselves are struggling with internalized homophobia, misogyny, or comphet (Affair, 23.5). And even when the higher power coming between them is a woman, there’s usually a male influence involved that pits the girls against each other (Us, Love Bully). The intention behind that “someone with more power” always stems from patriarchal beliefs.
What’s also frustrating is how these stories rarely give the main characters proper closure after being mistreated. The people who harass, manipulate, or shame them for being queer are often forgiven without much accountability or real discussion of their behavior. which ends up reinforcing the idea that lesbophobia is normal or forgivable. (I'm looking at you Ekk in Affair and Sak in Reverse With Me and even Mawin in Dream.)
Lesbians are the most isolated group when it comes to sexuality, because they're the only one that fully removes men from the equation — emotionally, sexually, and socially. In a patriarchal society that centers men as the default, that’s not just uncomfortable; it’s threatening. Lesbian existence challenges the very idea that men are necessary for love, fulfillment, or stability. That’s why media, even queer media, often unconsciously reinforces male-centered narratives: it’s more "comfortable" for the system. A story where women love each other, build lives without men, and don’t answer to male authority directly undermines the structures patriarchy relies on and so it often gets altered to make room for men, even when they don’t belong.
Gay shows don’t always have to make “being gay” the only plot problem. That’s a very heteronormative way of looking at queerness. Queer spaces have their own unique dynamics and drama that deserve to be represented with depth — especially in lesbian media. Why is it that MLM shows almost never center their plot around a woman, or marriage, or some external “higher power” trying to force them into conformity? How does that not scream patriarchal bias?
But yes, even from a surface-level artistic view of GL as a genre, the trope of a “higher power” not letting two women be together is painfully overused. I’d get it if it were a genuine challenge they needed to overcome as a couple, or a messy story with a few misunderstandings. But when it always ends up involving unnecessary men or forced family drama, it just feels repetitive and uninspired.
Well, after the latest trailer my last hope for the first "light-hearted GL rom-com" (that's not a high…
when i commented that on the youtube trailer someone came to tell me that "the novel is so good"... still doesn't remove the male from the story now does it
Replying toChasingXiaoGe•Aug 2, 2025•Liked Aug 16, 2025
😭😭 that's why I can't watch some of these GLs I hate these types of tropes 😭😔what happened to JUST…
the patriarchy has rotted their brains so much they can't see how two women can just love each other without a man being there to confirm that their love is "that strong" it's kinda lesbophobic don't you think?
Also, the novel was most definitely not mostly about sex. Not even in the least. Come on now. Maybe you're getting it confused with Denied Love. I'm rolling with both versions and I have nothing but trust in my girls LM and SY, regardless.
1. Aiwarin drugging May. Why? Why? Listen to me. Aiwarin is a very confident and intelligent person. She knows who she is and she acts the way she does, because she knows how hard she works and she truly knows her stuff. She wouldn't drug someone, least of all Maewika. Absolutely not. Over her rich, hot, dead body.
2. She's filthy rich and has people that can get information for her, so there is no need for her to get into May's phone. May is the one with the least experience, and while Aiwarin doesn't think May is weak (she believes in May so much it's not even funny), she knows where her strength lies. If she doesn't know something, she'll say it. I wish they went with the novel version of how they traded information with each other.
3. After drugging Maewika, she's confessing to her and asking to date? This part happened too soon. They should've made them spend more time together to get to know each other and then maybe do this in Episode 6 at least, to make it flow better.
4. Maewika. Now, this girl is stubborn so they got that right, and while she was legit falling for Aiwarin before she voiced it, she wasn't going to just accept dating Aiwarin that easily, even with the fact that it would've been kept a secret. Absolutely not. She barely knows Aiwarin and for the most part when she's around her, she's being teased and not seeing the real her which would leave her confused and this girl is not a fan of being in the dark . She was always asking questions trying to figure out what Aiwarin wanted from her and why she took a liking to her. As weak as she was when it came to Aiwarin, she was still about her business.
5. Maewika has a way of doing things by the book and while even Aiwarin tells her it won't always work, she sticks with it because that's the person she is and how she does her business. Her and Aiwarin have different styles with how they conduct their business, so she would not try to "hack" into Aiwarin's laptop to get information. She takes too much pride in her work. Superior is respected for how by the book they are.
6. The girls actually really respected each other, so it was always mentioned how they would let business be business and not ruin what they were doing together even before they were sure of each other.
Anyways, that's what I had to say. I can't wait to see what else they are going to do. Also, I hope Aiwarin takes over that company and leaves her dusty, abusive ass father broke. With father's like that, they need to bond and find a way to take over the companies. Aiwarin's mom was probably running for her life.
They were in a semi-relationship before that, though, as they slept with each other numerous times (in the novel, they actually sleep with each other when Maple visits Ai in the bar in ep 2) and hanged out a bunch. It was basically just Maple's insistence that they wait until the bidding is over that prevented them from getting together earlier, so I'd say they were de facto dating but not de jure.
1. FL kisses the other without consent
2. Drugging FL is totally completely normalized (& how did LM's character ask to be with SY after this is something I cant fanthom) -
does so much harm to representation than good.
They changed the characters so much, (I would have understood if they wanted to up the drama but this is literally a character assassination) and the pacing is so off , oh boy. Really hoping LMSY get a project without change next time coz change really knows how to butcher everything good, first affair, now this
This is honestly the most appealing secondary couple and storyline I’ve ever seen. Their acting is phenomenal, and the way they complement the main duo with such a heartwarming storyline is pure chef’s kiss. Truly, the Fantastic Four!
Brilliant casting, Change 2561!
Lilly and Belle’s sweet interactions and incredible chemistry make my heart flutter every time. 💕 They don’t just have the Gorgeous Chemistry and Irresistible Face Cards — they bring humor, charm, and powerful emotion even in the shortest scenes. So impactful and beautifully written!
Your 3rd paragraph is basically my go to when someone asks me why people in Japan don't want to legalize any LGBT laws even though the majority of the public is in favor of it. The whole "we don't want to endanger the concept of a traditional family" shit the government spouts for a number of years now is just them trying to keep the "old rules" alive of a family with a working husband and a wife that's the servant and mother. But I don't want to rant about Japanese society, that's a book I'd rather not open in a comments section of a Thai series.
I think the problem studios and producers have with introducing the "lesbian unique dynamics" idea is that they probably think they'd alienate non-lesbians (or at least the non-LGBT audience). Especially in patriarchic societies like Asia. That's why they always go back to the "higher powers" plot line because it gives the characters an obstacle everyone can rally against.
I think Pluto and Reverse 4 You are the best things we got, so far, when it comes to ignoring the "people with more power" storyline, at least for the main characters. Unfortunately R4U was extremely rushed and the ending was pretty butchered. And while Pluto also had some form of that plot line, the biggest obstacle of the main couple was overcoming guilt and self-doubt, at least in my opinion.
I think Thai studios should branch out and buy some Yuri Manga stories. They are often about high school (because of your 3rd paragraph probably), but they're more about acceptance and growing up than random people trying to get between them. Some studio that's known for making a series close to source material should buy Yagate Kimi ni Naru (Bloom Into You), it's just the best (Asian) Yuri/GL story.
Just a sidenote. The people you mentioned in your 2nd part, especially the one from Affair absolutely ruined the drama for me. The forgiving hero that threatened people and then almost killed himself with a gun in the process after breaking into an apartment. That guy would've majorly pissed me off in any plot, sorry for the language ;).
What’s also frustrating is how these stories rarely give the main characters proper closure after being mistreated. The people who harass, manipulate, or shame them for being queer are often forgiven without much accountability or real discussion of their behavior. which ends up reinforcing the idea that lesbophobia is normal or forgivable. (I'm looking at you Ekk in Affair and Sak in Reverse With Me and even Mawin in Dream.)
Lesbians are the most isolated group when it comes to sexuality, because they're the only one that fully removes men from the equation — emotionally, sexually, and socially. In a patriarchal society that centers men as the default, that’s not just uncomfortable; it’s threatening. Lesbian existence challenges the very idea that men are necessary for love, fulfillment, or stability. That’s why media, even queer media, often unconsciously reinforces male-centered narratives: it’s more "comfortable" for the system. A story where women love each other, build lives without men, and don’t answer to male authority directly undermines the structures patriarchy relies on and so it often gets altered to make room for men, even when they don’t belong.
Gay shows don’t always have to make “being gay” the only plot problem. That’s a very heteronormative way of looking at queerness. Queer spaces have their own unique dynamics and drama that deserve to be represented with depth — especially in lesbian media. Why is it that MLM shows almost never center their plot around a woman, or marriage, or some external “higher power” trying to force them into conformity? How does that not scream patriarchal bias?
But yes, even from a surface-level artistic view of GL as a genre, the trope of a “higher power” not letting two women be together is painfully overused. I’d get it if it were a genuine challenge they needed to overcome as a couple, or a messy story with a few misunderstandings. But when it always ends up involving unnecessary men or forced family drama, it just feels repetitive and uninspired.