Japanese original drama has the cult status for many reasons.This remake will not, mainly because of one.The viewers…
Wow, what a bold statement that "going back" is "not credible". I guess you've never experienced it, and have no one around you did.
I can't even count how many happy couples I know who, to quote you, went "back to deeply destructive relationship" and now have a "happy ending".
I am sorry that you have such a negative view in people and in life. Maybe someone deeply hurt you and now you assume every single person and relationship can never change or be saved. It's fine if that's how you see it, but please don't assume "going back" is "not credible". You practically just said all of those couples who did are fakes and how everyone assumes the way you do.
Yes, I was offended, in case you're wondering why I'm reacting this way.
Waste of effort anyway. No one cares about ratings on MDL. The de facto sites are IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, trakt.…
I'm one of the comment-active Filipinos here. ^_^
You'll usually see me leaving comments in shows: 1. That were based on true-to-life stories. 2. Time travel.
And you'll probably see me get embroiled in some debate when it comes to stories based on true-to-life situations and characters. While explaining time travel for time travel related shows.
Also, my age is fixed at 28, so, you get the idea. I have a different perspective on things when it comes to shows with situations and characters based on true-to-life or real-life stories. For example, when I see someone say “unrealistic”, I'll have a lot of words about why it is actually “realistic”. Hahahaha. I mean, either I've experienced it or I've seen it. (And it's kinda offensive to say it was “unrealistic” because it practically means what we've experienced were lies.)
The other reason why shows bashed and hated here on MDL are popular elsewhere, like here in the Philippines, is because of culture as well.
For example, we Filipinos will smile and laugh in the midst of extreme hardships. We Filipinos will still find hope and hold on to it, even if that hope is as small as a grain of sand. And we enter into a relationship as young as 14 years of age, so experience in relationships is pretty much a thing. Not to mention, local dramas are almost always about relationships, love stories, break-ups, and revenge.
Putting it all together, our way of thinking is highly influenced by our real-life experiences and what we see from our friends and from the TV. What is “unrealistic” for many of the MDL users, are very real for us.
You wouldn't even see the word “unrealistic” in Filipino K-drama groups. No one ever uses that word.
Another thing. We Filipinos can differentiate between fiction and non-fiction. No matter how emotional and engaging a show is, there is a line that we draw. We don't say, “the writer is bad” or “the writer doesn't know what they're doing”. It's fiction, period. It is the story by the writer, period. Our comeback to such comments is almost always, “if you think you can do better, then do it yourself”. (We're not talking about obvious errors.)
I'm not saying there are no overtly sensitive Filipinos. There are, of course. (And usually politicians at that. LOL.)
I can't speak for Indonesians, but at least for those I'm exposed to, they generally share a similar view on things. The Philippines and Indonesia are, culturally and socially, in a bitter-sweet relationship. We agree on a lot of things, and stand together, but once it's just the two of us, we bash each other. ROFL.
oh my god... how can a show have a worse debut lineup than runext.... only gehlee and hyeonju from my picks will…
If you're worried about Elisia because she's 14, you don't have to worry about her.
* She's a child actress. * She's been singing since she was 6 years old. * She's a model.
Underage (below 18) individuals who are working, especially in the entertainment industry, are protected in the Philippines. To mention a few requirements: 1. They need to maintain passing grades in all of their subjects. 2. They need to attend a minimum number of school days. 3. Their parents have the final say; not the kid.
Since Elisia, and Gehlee for that matter, are still underage and are still Philippine citizens, they are still under Philippine laws. They wouldn't be able to make a decision for themselves until they turn 18, by which time, they are either about to graduate or have graduated from High School. The Philippine Department of Education keep tabs on them all.
In addition to that, our labour code also applies to them, especially the provisions for underage individuals working for the entertainment industry. So, the Philippine Department of Labour and Employment will also keep tabs on them.
Child actors, singers, models, are nothing new in the Philippines. Fourteen (14) is no longer young for us as far as working in the entertainment industry is concerned. They know what they are doing. This was already their life. They've been working before they joined the Universe Ticket.
In fact, as I posted here before, F&F Entertainment cancelled the UNIS's 1st concert in February citing E-6 visa and academics. This was after Elisia secured her spot, and Gehlee almost made it.
Considering the timing, it is safe to assume that the cancellation was related to at least both of them. (I'm not sure what the laws are in Japan, so no idea.)
At least for Elisia and Gehlee, they'll be fine. They will graduate from High School as scheduled, as if they never debuted at all. They're not even allowed to stop their school unless there's a very valid reason, and related government agencies, together with their parents, approved it.
Schooling did not even stop in the Philippines during lockdown. Even the native Koreans who were studying here, and had to go back to Korea during the lockdown, had to continue their Philippine schooling through remote attendance.
If it is just because Elisia is 14, well, again, as I mentioned, she's a child actress and singing since she was 6 years old. This was her choice, this is her dream, they follow Philippine requirements, and her parents support her fully. (The same with Gehlee.)
Waste of effort anyway. No one cares about ratings on MDL. The de facto sites are IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, trakt.…
As far as affecting the shows because of ratings on some non-Korean site, I doubt it will have any effect.
For example, shows and genres that are often bashed here on MDL are popular in the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam, to mention a few.
What's happening is that: 1. MDL is not a choice, if not unknown, in those countries. 2. People leave negative/low comments/ratings more than they do with positive/high.
#2 is understandable, even in real life issues, the loudest are almost always the opposing side.
Humans today send to speak out their emotions when it's negative, but keeps quiet if it's positive. We tend to bring down others these days, than lifting them up.
For example, in Twitter, people will dig up your pass tweets just because they can. Don't call them out lest you want to be the next target.
If you guys notice on MDL's ^episode guide^ section, some people are actively downgrading this drama.... For the…
Waste of effort anyway. No one cares about ratings on MDL. The de facto sites are IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, trakt. For Koreans, only ratings within Korea matters.
who cares aslong if they can debut..i think its kinda nice and refreshing to see foreigners winning.Because korean…
For me, I hope the only Korean is Seonwon. And Hyeon-Ju, half-Korean, half-Filipino.
The rest, aside from Elisia and Gehlee, should be the Japanese girls.
As far as competition goes, it's a huge challenge for Japanese girls to compete with Koreans. Well, even in non-competitions, Koreans are highly favoured over Japanese.
If this nyw girl group ends up being dominated by Japanese, I think we can truly say that the Korean idol industry has finally come full circle.
People have forgotten that the Korean idol industry originated from the J-pop idol industry. If what I'm wishing for happens, it will definitely shake the idol industry in Asia.
It's going to send a strong message that non-Koreans are as good as Koreans, probably even better. And those judges are big names in the Korean scene, especially Kim Sim Jeong who herself came out of a survival talent show.
For me, this new group is that one chance to show that non-Koreans can stand head-to-head with them, even though we do not have the same rigorous training methods.
Speaking of that, it will also shake the Korean idol industry itself. They will finally understand that extreme training methods are not the key to success, rather, it's about talent, skills, and character.
They might even start pushing for major reforms in how they do things, and give more protection to their talents. Who knows? Hopefully, this group can show that, and F&F won't copy the other companies.
Never forget, in K-drama land, the the character that appears trustworthy in a mystery/crime genre is usually…
Yeah, all the characters are suspects. I stopped trying to figure it out. LOL.
Even the main character, I can't tell if it was her imagination or real. Definitely a mix. Some are real, some were imagined. But I just can't tell which. They're not leaving any clues.
In every episode and scene, they will lead the audience to certain directions, only to change it later in the episode or in the next episode.
The writer should write a spy novel instead!!! Hahaha. The detectives and military folks will love it.
Oh. They messed up the time of her death. She was murdered Min-ju October 13, 1999 not in 1998.FL arrived July…
Interesting.
In that case, I guess that's one of the things they changed.
In the original source material, she did die in 1999. So, I was under the impression that when they were filming, they originally made the timeline shorter; and while they were filming, they decided to include the Christmas scene from the original material, forgetting they changed the time of death in their adaptation.
“SBS’s Girl Group Survival Show “Universe Ticket” Cancels Seoul Concert”“Unfortunately, we must inform…
At this point, it's pretty obvious at least half of the 8-member group will be foreigners and underage. There are Korean visa and school issues to consider.
They probably only checked this when it became obvious there will be foreigners in the group. (I guess they only expected Korean girls to win, so they didn't check earlier.)
Anyway, this is F&F's first foray into the entertainment industry, and with foreign talents at that.
“SBS’s Girl Group Survival Show “Universe Ticket” Cancels Seoul Concert”
“Unfortunately, we must inform you that the “UNIVERSE TICKET Tour in Seoul” concert is cancelled due to E-6 visa transfers for foreign performers and academic issues.”
In fairness to F&F, this is their first time in the entertainment industry, so that's fine.
I strongly believe that you never break the Bro Code, you never cross that line, but only the writers are to blame…
Q: Are you going to wait in line because a friend of yours courted the girl first? A: No.
I've been there. The girl was actually making for me to make a move, she was literally ignoroeg the other guy. What would've happened if I "waited in line" when the guy won't even stop?
As is always said, "May the best man win". :)
Q: If you love someone dearly, would you still him/her? A: Yes.
Someone did that to me. I've experienced it first hand.
Out of stupid "revenge", I myself stole someone else's girlfriend years later.
99% I won't do it again, not because of some "bro code", rather, because I know what kind of relationship comes out of it. Which the idiot me already knew in the first place, but I still did it because my ex was stolen, I want someone else to experience it too. Which again was stupid.
As long as there are no legal and religious issues, All is fair in love and war.
Don't let stigma control your life. I am autistic. For years, I chose to "hide" because of stigma.
When EAW premiered, I told myself, "enough is enough, I will fight against discrimination, prejudice, and stigma".
The "bro code" is simply the gentler label for social stigma. Stigma that, like it or not, what people like to whisper behind people's back.
I say, let them talk! If that's their happiness, then I contributed to their happiness.
Again, no legal and religious issues, then "All is fair in love and war" and "May the best man win".
I strongly believe that you never break the Bro Code, you never cross that line, but only the writers are to blame…
And why would you let what other people say affect you?
If you love the ex of your ex, go for it. Don't let other people dictate who you can love or not love. As long as you are not violating your country's laws (or religious beliefs) on relationship (cousins for example), love each other!
You're asking me if I would do that? Yes. If I'm interested, it's a resounding yes.
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I can't even count how many happy couples I know who, to quote you, went "back to deeply destructive relationship" and now have a "happy ending".
I am sorry that you have such a negative view in people and in life. Maybe someone deeply hurt you and now you assume every single person and relationship can never change or be saved. It's fine if that's how you see it, but please don't assume "going back" is "not credible". You practically just said all of those couples who did are fakes and how everyone assumes the way you do.
Yes, I was offended, in case you're wondering why I'm reacting this way.
I've been there. I myself broke my life-long principle in relationships. I did it.
Someone else also did it to me. Gave up because the person can no longer stand our differences, how I am autistic.
They did well in portraying real-life and true-to-life situations.
You'll usually see me leaving comments in shows:
1. That were based on true-to-life stories.
2. Time travel.
And you'll probably see me get embroiled in some debate when it comes to stories based on true-to-life situations and characters. While explaining time travel for time travel related shows.
Also, my age is fixed at 28, so, you get the idea. I have a different perspective on things when it comes to shows with situations and characters based on true-to-life or real-life stories. For example, when I see someone say “unrealistic”, I'll have a lot of words about why it is actually “realistic”. Hahahaha. I mean, either I've experienced it or I've seen it. (And it's kinda offensive to say it was “unrealistic” because it practically means what we've experienced were lies.)
The other reason why shows bashed and hated here on MDL are popular elsewhere, like here in the Philippines, is because of culture as well.
For example, we Filipinos will smile and laugh in the midst of extreme hardships. We Filipinos will still find hope and hold on to it, even if that hope is as small as a grain of sand. And we enter into a relationship as young as 14 years of age, so experience in relationships is pretty much a thing. Not to mention, local dramas are almost always about relationships, love stories, break-ups, and revenge.
Putting it all together, our way of thinking is highly influenced by our real-life experiences and what we see from our friends and from the TV. What is “unrealistic” for many of the MDL users, are very real for us.
You wouldn't even see the word “unrealistic” in Filipino K-drama groups. No one ever uses that word.
Another thing. We Filipinos can differentiate between fiction and non-fiction. No matter how emotional and engaging a show is, there is a line that we draw. We don't say, “the writer is bad” or “the writer doesn't know what they're doing”. It's fiction, period. It is the story by the writer, period. Our comeback to such comments is almost always, “if you think you can do better, then do it yourself”. (We're not talking about obvious errors.)
I'm not saying there are no overtly sensitive Filipinos. There are, of course. (And usually politicians at that. LOL.)
I can't speak for Indonesians, but at least for those I'm exposed to, they generally share a similar view on things. The Philippines and Indonesia are, culturally and socially, in a bitter-sweet relationship. We agree on a lot of things, and stand together, but once it's just the two of us, we bash each other. ROFL.
* She's a child actress.
* She's been singing since she was 6 years old.
* She's a model.
Underage (below 18) individuals who are working, especially in the entertainment industry, are protected in the Philippines. To mention a few requirements:
1. They need to maintain passing grades in all of their subjects.
2. They need to attend a minimum number of school days.
3. Their parents have the final say; not the kid.
Since Elisia, and Gehlee for that matter, are still underage and are still Philippine citizens, they are still under Philippine laws. They wouldn't be able to make a decision for themselves until they turn 18, by which time, they are either about to graduate or have graduated from High School. The Philippine Department of Education keep tabs on them all.
In addition to that, our labour code also applies to them, especially the provisions for underage individuals working for the entertainment industry. So, the Philippine Department of Labour and Employment will also keep tabs on them.
Child actors, singers, models, are nothing new in the Philippines. Fourteen (14) is no longer young for us as far as working in the entertainment industry is concerned. They know what they are doing. This was already their life. They've been working before they joined the Universe Ticket.
In fact, as I posted here before, F&F Entertainment cancelled the UNIS's 1st concert in February citing E-6 visa and academics. This was after Elisia secured her spot, and Gehlee almost made it.
Considering the timing, it is safe to assume that the cancellation was related to at least both of them. (I'm not sure what the laws are in Japan, so no idea.)
At least for Elisia and Gehlee, they'll be fine. They will graduate from High School as scheduled, as if they never debuted at all. They're not even allowed to stop their school unless there's a very valid reason, and related government agencies, together with their parents, approved it.
Schooling did not even stop in the Philippines during lockdown. Even the native Koreans who were studying here, and had to go back to Korea during the lockdown, had to continue their Philippine schooling through remote attendance.
If it is just because Elisia is 14, well, again, as I mentioned, she's a child actress and singing since she was 6 years old. This was her choice, this is her dream, they follow Philippine requirements, and her parents support her fully. (The same with Gehlee.)
^_^
* Elisia 엘리시아 🇵🇭 (Elisia Lyrisse Cabais Parmisano)
* Gehlee Dangca 젤리당카 🇵🇭 (Gehlee Gimena Dangca)
* JinHyeonJu 진현주 🇵🇭🇰🇷
* Kotoko 琴子 코토코 🇯🇵
* Nana ナナ 나나 🇯🇵
* Lim Seo-Won 임서원 🇰🇷
* Bang Yun-Ha 방윤하 🇰🇷
* Oh Yoon-A 오윤아 🇰🇷
Breakdown:
* 2 Filipinos
* 1 Filipino-Korean
* 2 Japanese
* 3 Koreans
For example, shows and genres that are often bashed here on MDL are popular in the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam, to mention a few.
What's happening is that:
1. MDL is not a choice, if not unknown, in those countries.
2. People leave negative/low comments/ratings more than they do with positive/high.
#2 is understandable, even in real life issues, the loudest are almost always the opposing side.
Humans today send to speak out their emotions when it's negative, but keeps quiet if it's positive. We tend to bring down others these days, than lifting them up.
For example, in Twitter, people will dig up your pass tweets just because they can. Don't call them out lest you want to be the next target.
Basically what it is like with "Ktizens".
They're wasting their time and effort. LOLs.
The rest, aside from Elisia and Gehlee, should be the Japanese girls.
As far as competition goes, it's a huge challenge for Japanese girls to compete with Koreans. Well, even in non-competitions, Koreans are highly favoured over Japanese.
If this nyw girl group ends up being dominated by Japanese, I think we can truly say that the Korean idol industry has finally come full circle.
People have forgotten that the Korean idol industry originated from the J-pop idol industry. If what I'm wishing for happens, it will definitely shake the idol industry in Asia.
It's going to send a strong message that non-Koreans are as good as Koreans, probably even better. And those judges are big names in the Korean scene, especially Kim Sim Jeong who herself came out of a survival talent show.
For me, this new group is that one chance to show that non-Koreans can stand head-to-head with them, even though we do not have the same rigorous training methods.
Speaking of that, it will also shake the Korean idol industry itself. They will finally understand that extreme training methods are not the key to success, rather, it's about talent, skills, and character.
They might even start pushing for major reforms in how they do things, and give more protection to their talents. Who knows? Hopefully, this group can show that, and F&F won't copy the other companies.
Time to shake the idol industry in Asia.
Even the main character, I can't tell if it was her imagination or real. Definitely a mix. Some are real, some were imagined. But I just can't tell which. They're not leaving any clues.
In every episode and scene, they will lead the audience to certain directions, only to change it later in the episode or in the next episode.
The writer should write a spy novel instead!!! Hahaha. The detectives and military folks will love it.
In that case, I guess that's one of the things they changed.
In the original source material, she did die in 1999. So, I was under the impression that when they were filming, they originally made the timeline shorter; and while they were filming, they decided to include the Christmas scene from the original material, forgetting they changed the time of death in their adaptation.
They probably only checked this when it became obvious there will be foreigners in the group. (I guess they only expected Korean girls to win, so they didn't check earlier.)
Anyway, this is F&F's first foray into the entertainment industry, and with foreign talents at that.
“Unfortunately, we must inform you that the “UNIVERSE TICKET Tour in Seoul” concert is cancelled due to E-6 visa transfers for foreign performers and academic issues.”
In fairness to F&F, this is their first time in the entertainment industry, so that's fine.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1637112wpp/sbss-girl-group-survival-show-universe-ticket-cancels-seoul-concert
A: No.
I've been there. The girl was actually making for me to make a move, she was literally ignoroeg the other guy. What would've happened if I "waited in line" when the guy won't even stop?
As is always said, "May the best man win". :)
Q: If you love someone dearly, would you still him/her?
A: Yes.
Someone did that to me. I've experienced it first hand.
Out of stupid "revenge", I myself stole someone else's girlfriend years later.
99% I won't do it again, not because of some "bro code", rather, because I know what kind of relationship comes out of it. Which the idiot me already knew in the first place, but I still did it because my ex was stolen, I want someone else to experience it too. Which again was stupid.
As long as there are no legal and religious issues, All is fair in love and war.
Don't let stigma control your life. I am autistic. For years, I chose to "hide" because of stigma.
When EAW premiered, I told myself, "enough is enough, I will fight against discrimination, prejudice, and stigma".
The "bro code" is simply the gentler label for social stigma. Stigma that, like it or not, what people like to whisper behind people's back.
I say, let them talk! If that's their happiness, then I contributed to their happiness.
Again, no legal and religious issues, then "All is fair in love and war" and "May the best man win".
^_^
If you love the ex of your ex, go for it. Don't let other people dictate who you can love or not love. As long as you are not violating your country's laws (or religious beliefs) on relationship (cousins for example), love each other!
You're asking me if I would do that? Yes. If I'm interested, it's a resounding yes.
Again, the axiom: All is fair in love and war.