[Still need to watch last episode]I still find it unbelievable that they would still be thinking of the CSAT's…
EXACTLY!
This show is a joke. It started strong and went downhill.
It's understandable during their training, and up to when their Commander sacrificed himself.
In episode 7, they even showed how much they all matured.
Then by episode 8, they're back to being brats.
They even dropped that they are going to turn 20 years old (19 international), so, why in the world are they still acting like brats?
I would have understood if one or two, maybe even a third of their class are brats, but almost all of them? That's so unreal.
Their culture is also deeply rooted in hierarchy, and yet, they kept complaining every single episode.
They have a mandatory military service, and yet, they don't understand a thing about military and have no sense of patriotism.
Here in my country, by Grade 9 (14 years old), we are asked if anyone wants to be an officer by Grade 10. They'll undergo officer training.
By Grade 10, those officers will train the rest of the Grade 10 students in military training. No one complained. We know we will not graduate if we don't go through it. It is mandatory.
We understood the importance of hierarchy, especially in the military sense. They don't have to teach us about it. They don't have to tell us to listen to people with a higher rank than us. It's common sense.
But these students in this show? They're turning 20. And all they did was complain. And when their commander died, they did not even setup a new hierarchy.
In fact, I find it weird that their commander did not teach them about hierarchy. All he did was assign an “assistant”. He already witnessed how bratty they all are, and yet he expected them to survive out there without instilling in them the importance of hierarchy?
That was so not the way military trainings go. Hierarchy is the core of the military, and the success of any military unit out in the field.
It's a miracle those kids survived that long without a commander. With “democracy” reigning supreme (even though the voting was rigged).
I don't even know what is the message they want to send.
1. Was it about CSAT and how toxic it is? 2. Was it about the aliens? 3. Was it about the importance of military training? 4. Was it about the current state of Korean teenagers? They're turning 20 and still acts like 10-year olds?
Or, was it all for the sake of producing a story, who cares what the message and plot is all about?
Do they have to insert them being immature and annoying late teens? They established in episode 7 that they have matured and accepted their new reality.
And then in that prison scene, were they not taught to not talk to strangers? And isn't it more obvious when it comes to criminals locked up in prisons?
Don't get me wrong. I don't know of anyone when I was at that age (19/20) who acted like them.
Also, after all they've witnessed and been through, all they care about is going home and their CSAT. Like, seriously? How many times do the adults have to tell them there's nothing to go home to if no one will fight? How many times do they have to be reminded that CSAT is impossible if the alien invaders are not eliminated?
Do these kids have brains or not?
Oh, wait! The science high school students are realistic. Does that mean then that the main characters/school are dumb? O_O
Do they have to insert them being immature and annoying late teens? They established in episode 7 that they have matured and accepted their new reality.
And then in that prison scene, were they not taught to not talk to strangers? And isn't it more obvious when it comes to criminals locked up in prisons?
Don't get me wrong. I don't know of anyone when I was at that age (19/20) who acted like them.
Also, after all they've witnessed and been through, all they care about is going home and their CSAT. Like, seriously? How many times do the adults have to tell them there's nothing to go home to if no one will fight? How many times do they have to be reminded that CSAT is impossible if the alien invaders are not eliminated?
Do these kids have brains or not?
Oh, wait! The science high school students are realistic. Does that mean then that the main characters/school are dumb? O_O
Yoo Ra is the best of the best of the elite trained soldier. Think secret agency inside the NIS. Or, a secret agency much deeper than the NIS.
Do Hoon is in another part of the NIS that takes care of high profile targets.
Both of them were ordered to marry each other but they have no idea that they both work for the government of Korea.
She's only deployed for certain high risk assignments they can not afford to fail. For example, they lack information and they need an agent that can work alone, do their own tracking, and make decisions on their own (if they're going to eliminate or pull out).
2. Yoo Ra is from a secret cabal
Still the same, Yoo Ra is the best of the best. But instead of working for a secret agency within or deeper the NIS, she's a member of a cabal. The cabal is pro-Korean government but is outside of the purview of the National government.
If you are a Star Trek fan, think Section 31.
3. Yoo Ra is from a terrorist organisation.
Remember that delivery guy?
Yoo Ra told the ‘mistress’ to come to their house. And then later, Yoo Ra supposedly ordered food.
Once the ‘mistress’ arrived, Yoo Ra started acting very carefully. It was as if she is expecting some showdown.
Then the delivery guy arrived.
What's weird is this, the ‘mistress’ recognised the delivery guy. Which brings us back to either #1 or #2.
Why? It might be a coincidence. The ‘mistress’ was already contacting Do Hoon when Yoo Ra saw it. The NIS probably learned an assassin was sent to target him and his family.
And it just so happen Yoo Ra replied to her to visit them.
Perfect. The NIS can come before the assassin, and since she's being suspected as the ‘mistress’, they can smoothly pretend after they eliminated the fake delivery guy.
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However, Yoo Ra, was still acting strange after the delivery guy was eliminated. The balcony scene. She did not even look below, and her face was far too serious for someone simply suspecting infidelity. She was thinking about something very serious, probably calculating.
1. Maybe she was disappointed the delivery guy was eliminated? And this gave her an idea on the real identity of her husband and the ‘mistress’?
2. If she's from a cabal or a secret Korean agency, and a top agent at that, she probably was worried an assassin was sent. She was probably thinking if she was the target, and the ‘mistress’ was an agent secretly protecting her.
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Also, it's premier week. The first two to four episodes will probably concentrate on Do Hoon first, so they haven't shown us Yoo Ra's secrets.
It is possible that Yoo Ra have a secret room in their house or in her bakeshop. They just haven't shown us those scenes yet.
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Whichever way this goes, at least as per the synopsis, someone is going to show which will put their secret identities in serious jeopardy. And knowing K-drama writers, it will have something to do with the government and corruption.
All the while, keeping the show funny and about family.
Speaking of family. I think they will end up helping each other to protect their family. As we can see, both of them loves each other deeply. Maybe they initially married each other as a cover up, but fell in love for real… especially since there's a kid in their lives now (it always changes things).
And their secret identities will be used against them by whoever it is that is going to show up (as per the synopsis).
Well… at least those are what I can think of based on episodes 1 and 2.
> As long as I am worthy, > as long as my charm is still present, > Even if that's not the case, > It's okay to break up or be alone. > Someday, I'll be recognised by someone > and love less and be loved more. > > ― Bo Ra, Deborah
That final scene, it hurts to be reminded of those days. Randomly, you just… you can't stop it.
I hope no one here will experience what we've been through. Forget about the so-called “5 stages of grief/moving on/recovery”, it's not true. It was based on an outdated psychological model for and based on people who are dying, NOT grieving.
Going through a nasty break-up, and trying to come out of it alive, is a totally different matter. There are no stages to it.
It will change you deeply. Your opinions of everyone will change. Your brain and your heart will be in constant conflict. Your brain will tell you, not everyone is like your ex. But your heart will tell you, they all are the same.
Nasty break-ups can kill, too. There were cases around the world of people who died, or had a stroke, or had a heart attack, even a failing liver, all because of a break-up. We think it's not possible, but the truth is, everything we feel affects our entire body and functions, just as much as smiling and laughing heals us.
Always aim for a clean break-up. You both agreed to be in a relationship. The last thing you can do for each other is to part ways cleanly. (NOTE: we are NOT talking about breaking-up with abusive people, there is no other way to get out of an abusive relationship other than to break-up, no matter how painful it can be.)
If you think only men do that shit and women are always the victims, think again.
…
You don't want to turn-off the TV, because without a distraction, you will only feel the immense pain.
Heinrich's Accident Triangle - One high severity incident is always preceded by 29 minor incidents and 300 near-miss incideents. - The moment I got caught, my inner voice told me ‘Now is the chance. Run.’ - Before my relationship fell apart, there were certainly the things that I had missed.
1. face down cellphone us: a few years before the end, her phone is suddenly off-limits 2. sudden plan us: always cancelling our plans, plans she even initiated and was excited about 3. saying sorry like a habit us: she kept saying sorry when she didn't use to 4. watching the same movie s/he already watched with the other person us: originally, she waits until we can watch the first time. this changed, she already watched it. 5. secretive us: suddenly there are so many things about her that became secrets 6. busier with work us: always busy with work 7. checks your schedule us: checks on you, to make sure you are where you are, then suddenly is busy again
I was suspecting, but I chose to give more to help save things, and maybe she'll change her mind.
And everything else she said in monologue were the same for us.
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This show is a joke. It started strong and went downhill.
It's understandable during their training, and up to when their Commander sacrificed himself.
In episode 7, they even showed how much they all matured.
Then by episode 8, they're back to being brats.
They even dropped that they are going to turn 20 years old (19 international), so, why in the world are they still acting like brats?
I would have understood if one or two, maybe even a third of their class are brats, but almost all of them? That's so unreal.
Their culture is also deeply rooted in hierarchy, and yet, they kept complaining every single episode.
They have a mandatory military service, and yet, they don't understand a thing about military and have no sense of patriotism.
Here in my country, by Grade 9 (14 years old), we are asked if anyone wants to be an officer by Grade 10. They'll undergo officer training.
By Grade 10, those officers will train the rest of the Grade 10 students in military training. No one complained. We know we will not graduate if we don't go through it. It is mandatory.
We understood the importance of hierarchy, especially in the military sense. They don't have to teach us about it. They don't have to tell us to listen to people with a higher rank than us. It's common sense.
But these students in this show? They're turning 20. And all they did was complain. And when their commander died, they did not even setup a new hierarchy.
In fact, I find it weird that their commander did not teach them about hierarchy. All he did was assign an “assistant”. He already witnessed how bratty they all are, and yet he expected them to survive out there without instilling in them the importance of hierarchy?
That was so not the way military trainings go. Hierarchy is the core of the military, and the success of any military unit out in the field.
It's a miracle those kids survived that long without a commander. With “democracy” reigning supreme (even though the voting was rigged).
I don't even know what is the message they want to send.
1. Was it about CSAT and how toxic it is?
2. Was it about the aliens?
3. Was it about the importance of military training?
4. Was it about the current state of Korean teenagers? They're turning 20 and still acts like 10-year olds?
Or, was it all for the sake of producing a story, who cares what the message and plot is all about?
I have absolutely no idea.
Do they have to insert them being immature and annoying late teens? They established in episode 7 that they have matured and accepted their new reality.
And then in that prison scene, were they not taught to not talk to strangers? And isn't it more obvious when it comes to criminals locked up in prisons?
Don't get me wrong. I don't know of anyone when I was at that age (19/20) who acted like them.
Also, after all they've witnessed and been through, all they care about is going home and their CSAT. Like, seriously? How many times do the adults have to tell them there's nothing to go home to if no one will fight? How many times do they have to be reminded that CSAT is impossible if the alien invaders are not eliminated?
Do these kids have brains or not?
Oh, wait! The science high school students are realistic. Does that mean then that the main characters/school are dumb? O_O
Do they have to insert them being immature and annoying late teens? They established in episode 7 that they have matured and accepted their new reality.
And then in that prison scene, were they not taught to not talk to strangers? And isn't it more obvious when it comes to criminals locked up in prisons?
Don't get me wrong. I don't know of anyone when I was at that age (19/20) who acted like them.
Also, after all they've witnessed and been through, all they care about is going home and their CSAT. Like, seriously? How many times do the adults have to tell them there's nothing to go home to if no one will fight? How many times do they have to be reminded that CSAT is impossible if the alien invaders are not eliminated?
Do these kids have brains or not?
Oh, wait! The science high school students are realistic. Does that mean then that the main characters/school are dumb? O_O
Yoo Ra is the best of the best of the elite trained soldier. Think secret agency inside the NIS. Or, a secret agency much deeper than the NIS.
Do Hoon is in another part of the NIS that takes care of high profile targets.
Both of them were ordered to marry each other but they have no idea that they both work for the government of Korea.
She's only deployed for certain high risk assignments they can not afford to fail. For example, they lack information and they need an agent that can work alone, do their own tracking, and make decisions on their own (if they're going to eliminate or pull out).
2. Yoo Ra is from a secret cabal
Still the same, Yoo Ra is the best of the best. But instead of working for a secret agency within or deeper the NIS, she's a member of a cabal. The cabal is pro-Korean government but is outside of the purview of the National government.
If you are a Star Trek fan, think Section 31.
3. Yoo Ra is from a terrorist organisation.
Remember that delivery guy?
Yoo Ra told the ‘mistress’ to come to their house. And then later, Yoo Ra supposedly ordered food.
Once the ‘mistress’ arrived, Yoo Ra started acting very carefully. It was as if she is expecting some showdown.
Then the delivery guy arrived.
What's weird is this, the ‘mistress’ recognised the delivery guy. Which brings us back to either #1 or #2.
Why? It might be a coincidence. The ‘mistress’ was already contacting Do Hoon when Yoo Ra saw it. The NIS probably learned an assassin was sent to target him and his family.
And it just so happen Yoo Ra replied to her to visit them.
Perfect. The NIS can come before the assassin, and since she's being suspected as the ‘mistress’, they can smoothly pretend after they eliminated the fake delivery guy.
---
However, Yoo Ra, was still acting strange after the delivery guy was eliminated. The balcony scene. She did not even look below, and her face was far too serious for someone simply suspecting infidelity. She was thinking about something very serious, probably calculating.
1. Maybe she was disappointed the delivery guy was eliminated? And this gave her an idea on the real identity of her husband and the ‘mistress’?
2. If she's from a cabal or a secret Korean agency, and a top agent at that, she probably was worried an assassin was sent. She was probably thinking if she was the target, and the ‘mistress’ was an agent secretly protecting her.
---
Also, it's premier week. The first two to four episodes will probably concentrate on Do Hoon first, so they haven't shown us Yoo Ra's secrets.
It is possible that Yoo Ra have a secret room in their house or in her bakeshop. They just haven't shown us those scenes yet.
---
Whichever way this goes, at least as per the synopsis, someone is going to show which will put their secret identities in serious jeopardy. And knowing K-drama writers, it will have something to do with the government and corruption.
All the while, keeping the show funny and about family.
Speaking of family. I think they will end up helping each other to protect their family. As we can see, both of them loves each other deeply. Maybe they initially married each other as a cover up, but fell in love for real… especially since there's a kid in their lives now (it always changes things).
And their secret identities will be used against them by whoever it is that is going to show up (as per the synopsis).
Well… at least those are what I can think of based on episodes 1 and 2.
> As long as I am worthy,
> as long as my charm is still present,
> Even if that's not the case,
> It's okay to break up or be alone.
> Someday, I'll be recognised by someone
> and love less and be loved more.
>
> ― Bo Ra, Deborah
That final scene, it hurts to be reminded of those days. Randomly, you just… you can't stop it.
I hope no one here will experience what we've been through. Forget about the so-called “5 stages of grief/moving on/recovery”, it's not true. It was based on an outdated psychological model for and based on people who are dying, NOT grieving.
Going through a nasty break-up, and trying to come out of it alive, is a totally different matter. There are no stages to it.
It will change you deeply. Your opinions of everyone will change. Your brain and your heart will be in constant conflict. Your brain will tell you, not everyone is like your ex. But your heart will tell you, they all are the same.
Nasty break-ups can kill, too. There were cases around the world of people who died, or had a stroke, or had a heart attack, even a failing liver, all because of a break-up. We think it's not possible, but the truth is, everything we feel affects our entire body and functions, just as much as smiling and laughing heals us.
Always aim for a clean break-up. You both agreed to be in a relationship. The last thing you can do for each other is to part ways cleanly. (NOTE: we are NOT talking about breaking-up with abusive people, there is no other way to get out of an abusive relationship other than to break-up, no matter how painful it can be.)
Yeah, the old man was probably making a joke since he's practically the king with him tailing him all his life.
That was great!
That episode really struck.
…
You don't want to turn-off the TV, because without a distraction, you will only feel the immense pain.
Heinrich's Accident Triangle
- One high severity incident is always preceded by 29 minor incidents and 300 near-miss incideents.
- The moment I got caught, my inner voice told me ‘Now is the chance. Run.’
- Before my relationship fell apart, there were certainly the things that I had missed.
1. face down cellphone
us: a few years before the end, her phone is suddenly off-limits
2. sudden plan
us: always cancelling our plans, plans she even initiated and was excited about
3. saying sorry like a habit
us: she kept saying sorry when she didn't use to
4. watching the same movie s/he already watched with the other person
us: originally, she waits until we can watch the first time. this changed, she already watched it.
5. secretive
us: suddenly there are so many things about her that became secrets
6. busier with work
us: always busy with work
7. checks your schedule
us: checks on you, to make sure you are where you are, then suddenly is busy again
I was suspecting, but I chose to give more to help save things, and maybe she'll change her mind.
And everything else she said in monologue were the same for us.
But it took 5(?) men, 1 grandmother, and 1 adult woman, to lift the steel cover after they broke the lock.
What just happened? Was she supergirl or something?
Episode 5.