The major secret of the Jin clan is the ice stone is passed on to the eldest daughter because the eldest is always the most powerful? When the eldest daughter was born β¦ the current leader transferred the ice stone to her β¦ then someone kidnapped her?
The long lost Jin daughter was only a cover up? She is not actually the leader's daughter. Her husband is looking for her because β¦ *drum roll please*
She is far older (like Master Lee) and the ice stone was hidden in her body by the Songrim founder.
So, them losing her, it is imperative they find her lest someone figures out who she really is and use her.
We all know how secretive and overprotective the Jin clan is. And the power of the Jin clan is protection and sealing.
This good because this will align with the timeline. a. The Songrim founder, at least implied, died a long time ago.
b. It was the Songrim founder who hid the ice stone (or at least the huge chunk of it -- while there is a smaller chunk which fell in the hands of the Queen's clan)
c. If so, the Songrim founder was no longer before the Jin's eldest daughter was born.
So, what if β¦ she was not really their daughter and they're just keepers of the secret and protecting the ice stone because the duty was passed on to them by the Songrim founder and to keep it a secret?
He is working in the Korean showbiz industry and they are fine with him still acting. Nothing we can do about it, we are an audience outside of Korea.
If it is such a big issue in Korea, for sure they would have complained already and blocked him from coming back to showbiz. They can block shows from airing; they can force sponsors to pull out. Yet, we don't see any such actions to this actor, nor to the projects he was casted.
Maybe, it is no longer an issue in Korea. And that's where it ends.
Even if the international community boycotts the shows he's appearing, what matters is the audience share in Korea, not the international. So it won't make a dent either. In Western shows, it's the same thing. what matters is their local audience share/rating, it doesn't matter if the show is popular or a flak internationally.
For me, what I'm seeing is because he's a huge name in the industry and quite a good actor, producers and companies want to bring him in so they can benefit from his popularity. As it is said in marketing, bad publicity is still good publicity [if played correctly].
Once this show premiers, we are going to see more memes about the characters he played in 2022 alone. That is advantageous to the shows even to those which are over. People who haven't watched his previous shows, because people still talk about him, they'll get curious about the previous shows he was in.
From a business / marketing perspective, that's good.
Also, we do not see English Korean sites talking about his past. We can only assume that it is no longer an issue there. If it still is an issue in Korea, then it is a mystery why English Korean sites are not translating news and comments about him.
Because no one in the Korean entertainment industry, not even your favourite actors, are speaking up like you do.
Instead of attacking the viewers, you should start a campaign and file complaints to the Korean showbiz as well as write letters to the actors, staff, sponsors, and so on.
Again, the power is in the actors to stop this, not in the viewers. Stop attacking the viewers when they don't have to power to do anything about it.
Why deflect? I think you should ask that question yourself. I already gave you the solution to your issue but you are deflecting it to the viewers instead of going to the source.
There's a huge difference between "he's got supporters" and supporting projects composed of maybe a hundred staff and all the cast.
If you do not like it, well, you should file complaints to the producer, the writer, the staff, the cast, your favourite actors, their respective companies, their sponsors. Maybe get the attention of news agencies too.
You see, attacking viewers for your opinion is meaningless. The real power to make a change is by filing complaints to the people who are __fine__ working with the person you hate.
If you are going to argue "they are just doing their jobs it doesn't mean they support him", well, we are watching for the story and it also doesn't mean we support him.
I was expecting Mrs. Lee to be biased, but she's gone straight to aburd now. MiRae's aunt and HaeJun's relatives…
> I was expecting Mrs. Lee to be biased, but she's gone straight to aburd now.
LOL, yeah! She stopped making sense in this episode. It's no longer because she's being a mother, she just wants to "win".
It would be understandable if she's acting that way because everyone seems to be ganging on her. But nope, it was not her reason, her reason is simply she's the mother. Yet the way she's acting, she just wants to win the argument over her sons.
She's funny and at the same time starting to be annoying. =))
> MiRae's aunt and HaeJun's relatives imo are doing what they're doing for money...I would not be surprised if in the case of HJun's relatives, it comes out later.
Oh, good point, especially on grouping Mi Rae's aunt with the other Lee family.
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Okay so apparently, my theory is wrong again. So does that mean Mu Deok does not have the Ice Stone inside her…
What if β¦ as someone in the forums mentioned, the ice stone was split in two? The bigger ice stone was infused in the Mu Deok body?
This would explain why when Nak Su used AOS, her soul was absorbed into Mu Deok's body.
Secondly, it would also explain why the "blind girl" was able to counter the soul ejector stone -- she's more powerful than that.
It would mean that the bigger part of the ice stone was infused into the body of Mu Deok and maybe it gained consciousness when it fused with the soul of Mu Deok.
OR, we can combine it with my theory that the Jin's eldest daughter's soul was split in two.
Since the magic of the Jin's is about keeping dangerous artifacts and relics locked up, maybe the eldest Jin daughter was very powerful. Someone kidnapped her and split her soul in two.
1st Soul was transferred to the body of Mu Deok together with the larger piece of the ice stone. With the Jin power, it sealed the ice stone within thus preventing any mage from detecting it. The original soul of Mu Deok is gone since it was replaced.
The 2nd half of the soul remained in the original body -- which is the Nak Su body. Possibly, Nak Su's father was already different this is why they were able to "hide" the identity of Nak Su.
But something happened, Nak Su's father failed to absorb a new person which led to him losing control and killing them all.
If someone else's soul was transferred to Nak Su's body, her father would have known since there will be a blue mark. And Jin Woo would also know since the child needs to be bathed and all, someone will definitely see.
So β¦ it's possible the Nak Su body was the original body of the Jin's eldest daughter, which would explain why Nak Su is so powerful. What no one knew was her real identity and how her soul was split in two.
Since the two souls are now in one body, a body that is not theirs, and the other half of the soul was infused with the bigger piece of the ice stone, and her blue in her two eyes are dissipating β¦ possibly Nak Su's half-soul and her other half-soul are finally becoming whole again.
This would mean once her soul becomes whole, she would also become the avatar of the ice stone since the ice stone was fused into her other half soul (the one that over took the Mu Deok body).
Because one thing is for sure, the artifacts and relics know who the "blind girl" is β¦ the "ice stone". It means that the they sense the ice stone in her, as well as, they've seen the "blind girl" before. Maybe, just maybe, the soul splitting and ice stone fusing happened inside that vault β¦ which would mean someone very powerful did it.
What doesn't align is, how can the founder of Songrim have done it. The show is implying that he hid the ice stone before Uk, Nak Su, Mu Deok, and the Jin's eldest daughter, were born.
Master Lee doesn't seem to know any better either.
If the founder of Songrim did it before they were all born, then it means: 1. Mu Deok is not the Jin's eldest daughter.
2. Mu Deok may not even be a real person but an avatar of the ice stone.
3. If Mu Deok was indeed a real person, then it would mean she is very old because she should have existed at the time the founder of Songrim hid the ice stone.
4. Whichever it is (#2 or #3), we go back to possibility that Nak Su is the Jin's eldest daughter and she was hidden as someone else's daughter. The question is WHY?
Does it seem realistic that there will be actual romance between the 2 leads? They are both really cute though…
Yes. We autistics do fall in love and had/have relationships. ^_^
This is the part I am waiting for in EAW. It is not about them falling in love that I am waiting, it is about how they are going portray on screen how autistics processes romance and how a relationship works if one is autistic.
Romantic relationship is the least talked about aspect of autism. The misconception is that we can not fall in love or we can not maintain a relationship. In some parts of the world, there are even people saying that we should not be allowed to get married or have a child -- because we are only going to spread our autistic genes and create more autistic people. In other words, we are a disease and must be deleted from the gene pool.
Truth is, we do fall in love and can get married and have our own family. There are a lot of autistic couples even--both are autistics--and they have NT children, a mix, or all are autistics.
It is possible. It is not unheard of. It is just the least talked about outside of the autistic community.
I have full trust on EAW that they will handle this properly too, 4 episodes in and they're doing great. It is about time that the world knows we autistics can feel emotions and have our own family.
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WHAT IF!
The major secret of the Jin clan is the ice stone is passed on to the eldest daughter because the eldest is always the most powerful? When the eldest daughter was born β¦ the current leader transferred the ice stone to her β¦ then someone kidnapped her?
The long lost Jin daughter was only a cover up? She is not actually the leader's daughter. Her husband is looking for her because β¦ *drum roll please*
She is far older (like Master Lee) and the ice stone was hidden in her body by the Songrim founder.
So, them losing her, it is imperative they find her lest someone figures out who she really is and use her.
We all know how secretive and overprotective the Jin clan is. And the power of the Jin clan is protection and sealing.
This good because this will align with the timeline.
a. The Songrim founder, at least implied, died a long time ago.
b. It was the Songrim founder who hid the ice stone (or at least the huge chunk of it -- while there is a smaller chunk which fell in the hands of the Queen's clan)
c. If so, the Songrim founder was no longer before the Jin's eldest daughter was born.
So, what if β¦ she was not really their daughter and they're just keepers of the secret and protecting the ice stone because the duty was passed on to them by the Songrim founder and to keep it a secret?
He is working in the Korean showbiz industry and they are fine with him still acting. Nothing we can do about it, we are an audience outside of Korea.
If it is such a big issue in Korea, for sure they would have complained already and blocked him from coming back to showbiz. They can block shows from airing; they can force sponsors to pull out. Yet, we don't see any such actions to this actor, nor to the projects he was casted.
Maybe, it is no longer an issue in Korea. And that's where it ends.
Even if the international community boycotts the shows he's appearing, what matters is the audience share in Korea, not the international. So it won't make a dent either. In Western shows, it's the same thing. what matters is their local audience share/rating, it doesn't matter if the show is popular or a flak internationally.
For me, what I'm seeing is because he's a huge name in the industry and quite a good actor, producers and companies want to bring him in so they can benefit from his popularity. As it is said in marketing, bad publicity is still good publicity [if played correctly].
Once this show premiers, we are going to see more memes about the characters he played in 2022 alone. That is advantageous to the shows even to those which are over. People who haven't watched his previous shows, because people still talk about him, they'll get curious about the previous shows he was in.
From a business / marketing perspective, that's good.
Also, we do not see English Korean sites talking about his past. We can only assume that it is no longer an issue there. If it still is an issue in Korea, then it is a mystery why English Korean sites are not translating news and comments about him.
Instead of attacking the viewers, you should start a campaign and file complaints to the Korean showbiz as well as write letters to the actors, staff, sponsors, and so on.
Again, the power is in the actors to stop this, not in the viewers. Stop attacking the viewers when they don't have to power to do anything about it.
Simply put, you are barking at the wrong tree.
^_^
If you do not like it, well, you should file complaints to the producer, the writer, the staff, the cast, your favourite actors, their respective companies, their sponsors. Maybe get the attention of news agencies too.
You see, attacking viewers for your opinion is meaningless. The real power to make a change is by filing complaints to the people who are __fine__ working with the person you hate.
If you are going to argue "they are just doing their jobs it doesn't mean they support him", well, we are watching for the story and it also doesn't mean we support him.
^_^
^_~
If you don't want to watch it, then don't.
Some of us, we watch for the story and not because this actor or that actor is in it or not; or because there is romance in it or not.
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LOL, yeah! She stopped making sense in this episode. It's no longer because she's being a mother, she just wants to "win".
It would be understandable if she's acting that way because everyone seems to be ganging on her. But nope, it was not her reason, her reason is simply she's the mother. Yet the way she's acting, she just wants to win the argument over her sons.
She's funny and at the same time starting to be annoying. =))
> MiRae's aunt and HaeJun's relatives imo are doing what they're doing for money...I would not be surprised if in the case of HJun's relatives, it comes out later.
Oh, good point, especially on grouping Mi Rae's aunt with the other Lee family.
Time to brace ourselves for more heartaches!
This would explain why when Nak Su used AOS, her soul was absorbed into Mu Deok's body.
Secondly, it would also explain why the "blind girl" was able to counter the soul ejector stone -- she's more powerful than that.
It would mean that the bigger part of the ice stone was infused into the body of Mu Deok and maybe it gained consciousness when it fused with the soul of Mu Deok.
OR, we can combine it with my theory that the Jin's eldest daughter's soul was split in two.
Since the magic of the Jin's is about keeping dangerous artifacts and relics locked up, maybe the eldest Jin daughter was very powerful. Someone kidnapped her and split her soul in two.
1st Soul was transferred to the body of Mu Deok together with the larger piece of the ice stone. With the Jin power, it sealed the ice stone within thus preventing any mage from detecting it. The original soul of Mu Deok is gone since it was replaced.
The 2nd half of the soul remained in the original body -- which is the Nak Su body. Possibly, Nak Su's father was already different this is why they were able to "hide" the identity of Nak Su.
But something happened, Nak Su's father failed to absorb a new person which led to him losing control and killing them all.
If someone else's soul was transferred to Nak Su's body, her father would have known since there will be a blue mark. And Jin Woo would also know since the child needs to be bathed and all, someone will definitely see.
So β¦ it's possible the Nak Su body was the original body of the Jin's eldest daughter, which would explain why Nak Su is so powerful. What no one knew was her real identity and how her soul was split in two.
Since the two souls are now in one body, a body that is not theirs, and the other half of the soul was infused with the bigger piece of the ice stone, and her blue in her two eyes are dissipating β¦ possibly Nak Su's half-soul and her other half-soul are finally becoming whole again.
This would mean once her soul becomes whole, she would also become the avatar of the ice stone since the ice stone was fused into her other half soul (the one that over took the Mu Deok body).
Because one thing is for sure, the artifacts and relics know who the "blind girl" is β¦ the "ice stone". It means that the they sense the ice stone in her, as well as, they've seen the "blind girl" before. Maybe, just maybe, the soul splitting and ice stone fusing happened inside that vault β¦ which would mean someone very powerful did it.
What doesn't align is, how can the founder of Songrim have done it. The show is implying that he hid the ice stone before Uk, Nak Su, Mu Deok, and the Jin's eldest daughter, were born.
Master Lee doesn't seem to know any better either.
If the founder of Songrim did it before they were all born, then it means:
1. Mu Deok is not the Jin's eldest daughter.
2. Mu Deok may not even be a real person but an avatar of the ice stone.
3. If Mu Deok was indeed a real person, then it would mean she is very old because she should have existed at the time the founder of Songrim hid the ice stone.
4. Whichever it is (#2 or #3), we go back to possibility that Nak Su is the Jin's eldest daughter and she was hidden as someone else's daughter. The question is WHY?
Episode 7: It was revealed by the other artifacts that the "blind girl" = the "ice stone".
Episode 8: It was revealed that the ice stone is in the possession of the queen.
This is the part I am waiting for in EAW. It is not about them falling in love that I am waiting, it is about how they are going portray on screen how autistics processes romance and how a relationship works if one is autistic.
Romantic relationship is the least talked about aspect of autism. The misconception is that we can not fall in love or we can not maintain a relationship. In some parts of the world, there are even people saying that we should not be allowed to get married or have a child -- because we are only going to spread our autistic genes and create more autistic people. In other words, we are a disease and must be deleted from the gene pool.
Truth is, we do fall in love and can get married and have our own family. There are a lot of autistic couples even--both are autistics--and they have NT children, a mix, or all are autistics.
It is possible. It is not unheard of. It is just the least talked about outside of the autistic community.
I have full trust on EAW that they will handle this properly too, 4 episodes in and they're doing great. It is about time that the world knows we autistics can feel emotions and have our own family.
^_^