should i start watching it, i heard that fl is bad and episode 1 and 2 not good
Same. For me the premier episodes could have been inserted as flashbacks. There were also scenes that they could've removed … instead they chose to dedicate 2 whole episodes for the flashback.
Unfortunately, you can skip those two episodes because there are important moments there. I think maybe there is a fan somewhere who created a summarized version of those premier episodes. ^_^
But yeah, once episode 1 beings the flashback mode, after a few minutes you can start skipping. Then in episode 2, after the first few minutes (not counting the recap portion) you can also start skipping.
Basically just grab the 'message' of the flashback and the emotions involved because it is those that will drive the series and the main characters.
From episode 3 to the latest episode as of this post, it's good.
She is intelligent. She was in the top class.She got distracted after her music teacher betrayed her, scolded…
Ahh, I see what you mean. Yeah, there are scenes which were too farfetched, and no one still caught her.
Although maybe it is also showing why people gets fooled? We are too trusting when someone came from some prestigious school, or is rich or studied abroad, that we don't bother to do a background check?
Then again, that husband of hers, being politicians too, they're pushing it far too much that their background check (if they did one) was a failure to have not discovered her.
I watched the badly subtitled version so maybe missed some details, but I don't think Yoo Mi is supposed to be…
She is intelligent. She was in the top class.
She got distracted after her music teacher betrayed her, scolded her, and she got all the flak while the music teacher got nothing.
Since then she can no longer concentrate and she started to fear meeting people. She no longer trusts anyone.
Then when it's about time to enter college, she got even more distracted because of the "university" friends she gained. It has been years she never had any friend and having new friends and the feeling of belonging distracted her even more.
Another proof she's intelligent, she knew how to survive with all her lies. She even figured out whose identity she can steal. She also legally changed her name (most identity thieves wouldn't go that far). She practically lived the identity she stole. All the while, even though there were close calls, she survived through it.
Only an intelligent and wise person can do that. You don't need to be a "professional identity thief" or a "professional liar", you need brains for that. And believe it or not, there were cases like in history. One good example was the film "Catch Me If You Can" which was inspired by a true story on the life of "Frank Abagnale" known as the best con artist in history. That guy was intelligent and wise, he fooled agencies around the world, chasing him all over the globe.
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I just checked the reddit thread and mostly are good enough, some were things I didn't address and they pointed out.
I replies in a few, like that guy who commented that it seems "exag" and "unrealistic" because his nieces are not like the character.
But other than those few misconceptions, the general comments re: autism, are generally fine.
For example, someone commented how the character doesn't exactly match what autistic women are. That's true. I chose not to address that because I think the writer is not aiming for accuracy, rather to advocate for autism in general.
Someone also mentioned that Woo has too many autistic traits for her to be real. I partially mentioned that I think in episode 1, that's true but it doesn't mean there is no autistic like her.
They also had a discussion about autism spectrum and Asperger's Syndrome, I replied to that one and said that for translation accuracy, yes, it should be autism spectrum since that's what's in Korean synopsis and in Netflix too.
But, as I've mentioned earlier and in that reddit thread, it doesn't matter generally speaking because Asperger's Syndrome is in the Autism Spectrum. If Asperger did not identify it, it would have been just labeled as "high functioning autism" which is what it is anyway.
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Good question!
Generally, autistics do speak late and it becomes a concern for parents. But it is not always the case, and this is what baffles the "experts".
I think this is also why autism is viewed as a "spectrum" (a scale from left-to-right). Those who speak really late usually fall under "classic autism", and those who speak only a little late under "Asperger's syndrome" or the other classifications under "high functioning autism".
For Woo, while she only started speaking at 5 and she shows a lot of traits commonly found in "classic autism" (a.k.a. "low functioning autism), she also demonstrated that she can function in society which is commonly found in "high functioning autism". She would fall somewhere in-between the two classifications (for which they don't have a label).
Episode 3 looks very interesting and more serious, WYW’s plaintiff is also autistic.
I'm actually surprised they're going to address that "autistic helping autistic" this early.
It's a real world "issue" (for lack of a better term). As an autistic, I've seen firsthand how other autistics act, reacted, and treated by their parents/guardians and other people, but I am torn between helping or not … especially since I know that each autistic is unique … what works for me doesn't mean it'll work for another.
I can't wait for episode 3 because I am curious which direction and message they'll give.
Some ppl do not know they have autism in them and it can appear not very obvious too. Autism is not a disease…
I'm can't tell if you mistagged or not, especially since I never said anything that "autism is disease", as an autistic, I take offense whenever I see someone say that.
10. Fascination with one particular subject. In the show, it's whales.This is true. If someone you know is autistic…
> Is it difficult for people with autism to understand sarcasm?
Yep! However, it can be learned.
It's similar to jokes and idiomatic expressions, we don't understand it generally but once we learn it, we even start to use it ourselves.
Again, it boils down to how we process things differently. Sarcasm, jokes, idioms, and similar, we fail to understand it initially because [1] we take things literally; and [2] we process it from a logical standpoint. So if it doesn't make sense, we struggle and sometimes "correct" or "ask" … which ends up with the sarcasm, joke, losing its effect.
But, it can be learned. From my own experience, I learned to detect the basic form of sarcasms. The more elaborate it is, the most time I have to spend to detect it. Online, I always check the source and find the fine print / disclaimers (and still I fall for it, it's not fool proof).
Jokes, I learned to analyze "questionable" statements fast and assume it's a joke. Another technique I learned is, if in a group, I laugh last while I'm still processing what the joke is all about (and sometimes I become too obvious because once I understand the joke, I laugh for the second time and harder).
Idioms, yep, easiest to learn. For me, personally, idioms are fun to learn because it is something I can also use without thinking too much. Not like jokes, it's a challenge to make jokes if you think logically and literally.
If you are familiar with the "vulcan" people from Star Trek, autistics are something like the vulcans. ^_^ The only difference, autistics do laugh while vulcans usually fake it =))
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Unfortunately, you can skip those two episodes because there are important moments there. I think maybe there is a fan somewhere who created a summarized version of those premier episodes. ^_^
But yeah, once episode 1 beings the flashback mode, after a few minutes you can start skipping. Then in episode 2, after the first few minutes (not counting the recap portion) you can also start skipping.
Basically just grab the 'message' of the flashback and the emotions involved because it is those that will drive the series and the main characters.
From episode 3 to the latest episode as of this post, it's good.
Although maybe it is also showing why people gets fooled? We are too trusting when someone came from some prestigious school, or is rich or studied abroad, that we don't bother to do a background check?
Then again, that husband of hers, being politicians too, they're pushing it far too much that their background check (if they did one) was a failure to have not discovered her.
She got distracted after her music teacher betrayed her, scolded her, and she got all the flak while the music teacher got nothing.
Since then she can no longer concentrate and she started to fear meeting people. She no longer trusts anyone.
Then when it's about time to enter college, she got even more distracted because of the "university" friends she gained. It has been years she never had any friend and having new friends and the feeling of belonging distracted her even more.
Another proof she's intelligent, she knew how to survive with all her lies. She even figured out whose identity she can steal. She also legally changed her name (most identity thieves wouldn't go that far). She practically lived the identity she stole. All the while, even though there were close calls, she survived through it.
Only an intelligent and wise person can do that. You don't need to be a "professional identity thief" or a "professional liar", you need brains for that. And believe it or not, there were cases like in history. One good example was the film "Catch Me If You Can" which was inspired by a true story on the life of "Frank Abagnale" known as the best con artist in history. That guy was intelligent and wise, he fooled agencies around the world, chasing him all over the globe.
I just checked the reddit thread and mostly are good enough, some were things I didn't address and they pointed out.
I replies in a few, like that guy who commented that it seems "exag" and "unrealistic" because his nieces are not like the character.
But other than those few misconceptions, the general comments re: autism, are generally fine.
For example, someone commented how the character doesn't exactly match what autistic women are. That's true. I chose not to address that because I think the writer is not aiming for accuracy, rather to advocate for autism in general.
Someone also mentioned that Woo has too many autistic traits for her to be real. I partially mentioned that I think in episode 1, that's true but it doesn't mean there is no autistic like her.
They also had a discussion about autism spectrum and Asperger's Syndrome, I replied to that one and said that for translation accuracy, yes, it should be autism spectrum since that's what's in Korean synopsis and in Netflix too.
But, as I've mentioned earlier and in that reddit thread, it doesn't matter generally speaking because Asperger's Syndrome is in the Autism Spectrum. If Asperger did not identify it, it would have been just labeled as "high functioning autism" which is what it is anyway.
Do you have a link of the existing discussions?
Generally, autistics do speak late and it becomes a concern for parents. But it is not always the case, and this is what baffles the "experts".
I think this is also why autism is viewed as a "spectrum" (a scale from left-to-right). Those who speak really late usually fall under "classic autism", and those who speak only a little late under "Asperger's syndrome" or the other classifications under "high functioning autism".
For Woo, while she only started speaking at 5 and she shows a lot of traits commonly found in "classic autism" (a.k.a. "low functioning autism), she also demonstrated that she can function in society which is commonly found in "high functioning autism". She would fall somewhere in-between the two classifications (for which they don't have a label).
> normally people just get fed up because they didn't set a boundary and then snap at me
So very true.
It's a real world "issue" (for lack of a better term). As an autistic, I've seen firsthand how other autistics act, reacted, and treated by their parents/guardians and other people, but I am torn between helping or not … especially since I know that each autistic is unique … what works for me doesn't mean it'll work for another.
I can't wait for episode 3 because I am curious which direction and message they'll give.
Thanks for sharing, that was a very nice Easter Egg they dropped there.
Thanks for sharing, that was a very nice Easter Egg they dropped there.
Yep! However, it can be learned.
It's similar to jokes and idiomatic expressions, we don't understand it generally but once we learn it, we even start to use it ourselves.
Again, it boils down to how we process things differently. Sarcasm, jokes, idioms, and similar, we fail to understand it initially because [1] we take things literally; and [2] we process it from a logical standpoint. So if it doesn't make sense, we struggle and sometimes "correct" or "ask" … which ends up with the sarcasm, joke, losing its effect.
But, it can be learned. From my own experience, I learned to detect the basic form of sarcasms. The more elaborate it is, the most time I have to spend to detect it. Online, I always check the source and find the fine print / disclaimers (and still I fall for it, it's not fool proof).
Jokes, I learned to analyze "questionable" statements fast and assume it's a joke. Another technique I learned is, if in a group, I laugh last while I'm still processing what the joke is all about (and sometimes I become too obvious because once I understand the joke, I laugh for the second time and harder).
Idioms, yep, easiest to learn. For me, personally, idioms are fun to learn because it is something I can also use without thinking too much. Not like jokes, it's a challenge to make jokes if you think logically and literally.
If you are familiar with the "vulcan" people from Star Trek, autistics are something like the vulcans. ^_^ The only difference, autistics do laugh while vulcans usually fake it =))