If you've known each other since school days and then had a relationship for years, then yes, you trust each other…
I see what you mean. The characters are on the extreme edge of the spectrum.
KJ is a simpleton. He is slow to learn. And he always need confirmation if what he has in mind is a good thing. He also likes to sulk in the corner first before doing anything.
HK is too "high and mighty". She always want to portray a perfect image. She thinks that the people around her should not see how frail she is like everybody else.
It's rare to see these extremes of character in real life. There are but its rare.
Isn't it the other way round though where KJ seeked HK out for relationship advice?
Yes, at least as far as "seeking" is concerned. On HK's part, she did not look for advice but found it indirectly through him and his experiences.
Remember that scene in their office rest area? KJ kept talking and touched on how HK is this and that. Exactly the same thing SW told her a few minutes earlier.
So, at first, HK dismissed what SW said, probably got a bit angry too. But when she heard the same from KJ that gave her pause and she started to look inside. "Am I really like that?"
HK won't ask for advice, literally, but she looks at other people's experiences and take it as an advice quietly. She thinks that letting people see her asking for advice and help is like showing them how weak and powerless she is, an image she can not afford--especially after their nasty break up.
While KJ, a fool that he is, actively seeks advice because he understands his own limitations.
Why? He did the right thing. They've known each other since school days and been in relationship for years. If…
People can be a fool but it doesn't mean they are a fool for the rest of their lives.
Shi Woo obviously was about to make a huge mistake in his life and Ki Joon noticed it, so he gave him advise so he could avoid the same mistake that he did--a fool.
You can listen to someone with more experience even if you hate the person. Shutting them them and telling to f*ck off is a recipe for disaster.
If Shi Woo told him to "get lost", like what the OP said, then he'll definitely make the biggest mistake of his life. If Ki Joon stayed quiet like what the OP wanted, then Shi Woo would've had make the biggest mistake of his life.
Gosh, guys kudos to you for watching this as it's airing! I am patiently waiting for the ending and only after…
Are you just looking for a happy ending? Or, are you looking for a _romantic_ happy ending?
The answer is in Episode 1 and Episode 14. It's a story about life; of growing up; of relationships between parents and children; of relationships between friends.
Will it be a happy ending, generally speaking? It depends how you understand the story about life, about growing up.
Will it be a _romantic_ happy ending? Wrong show. :p
Since you want to know the ending, then the following is not a spoiler for you:
Episode 1: Hee Do's daughter is "KIM Min Chae". Episode 1: Yi Jin is BAEK Yi Jin. Episode 14: year 2009, Baek Yi Jin congratulated Na Hee Do on her marriage. Episode 14: year 2009, they were very sad and talked as if they have regrets, that if they can only turn back time they'll make a different decision
Potential spoilers / rumours from twitter, huge grain of salt on this: https://twitter.com/kdramasreview/status/1508469154457993219?s=21&t=rSyw1DS_CPi5vEZ-7GWj0Q
Umm… Kim Min Chae is the obvious clue. If Baek Yi Jin and Na Hee Do got married, Min Chae would be "Baek Min Chae".
Unless there is an unknown tradition in Korea where parents can choose a different family name, like what they do in some African countries.
What we know so far as of Episode 14:Note #1: All ages are in Korean ageNote #2: The competitions depicted are…
* 2000 -- Na Hee Do 20 years old -- Baek Yi Jin 24 years old
* 2001 -- Na Hee Do 21 years old -- Baek Yi Jin 25 years old -- Show title: Twenty-Five Twenty-One -- Madrid, Spain competition - Na Hee Do won Gold
* 2005 -- Na Hee Do 25 years old -- Baek Yi Jin 29 years old -- Prague, Czech Republic competition - Na Hee Do won Gold -- this is just a guess
* 2007 -- Na Hee Do 27 years old -- sometime 2007 or early 2008 Na Hee Do was pregnant (assuming the character for Kim Min Chae is the same age as the actress)
* 2008 -- Na Hee Do 28 years old -- Kim Min Chae was born (1 year old Korean age) (assuming the character is the same age as the actress)
* 2009 -- Na Hee Do 29 years old -- Baek Yi Jin 33 years old -- Na Hee Do got married to a Kim -- July 10, 2009: San Francisco, USA competition - Na Hee Do won Gold -- UBS broadcast by Baek Yi Jin. Online video upload entitled: "Special relationship between Na Hee Do and Reporter Baek Yi Jin"
* 2016 -- Na Hee Do 36 years old -- Kim Min Chae started ballet; and recital
* 2021 -- Present time -- Na Hee Do 41 years old -- Baek Yi Jin 45 years old (if he's still alive) -- Kim Min Chae had been doing ballet for 5 years (ep 1) -- Kim Min Chae is 13 years old (assuming the character is the same age as the actress)
Why is it so difficult to ask your daughter what she wants? I get that the senior forecaster wants to surprise…
Cultural context.
In your culture, it's easy. In some cultures it isn't.
There are a lot of boundaries and social norms in Korean culture, even between parents and children. If you're not new to K-dramas, then you should have had seen it a lot already. :)
Kijun: "I know this sounds ridiculous coming from me -" EXACTLY! So, don't speak & get lost 😊(I can't remember…
Why? He did the right thing. They've known each other since school days and been in relationship for years. If anyone knows her best, it's him, no matter what mistakes he have made.
You see, someone who made a mistake in a relationship is the best person to see things clearly. I've been in a relationship with someone, we broke up, and stayed friends. I told her she should not date the new guy, and to actually stay away from him.
Should I have had stayed quiet and "get lost" knowing that she's going to make a bad decision?
1. I know her best more than anyone. 2. I can see the worse version of me on that guy.
Yes, it is ridiculous but it doesn't mean I should stay quiet and just get lost.
Guess what? I was right about the guy and she made a huge mistake.
Guess what? The girl, my ex, admitted as much some ten years later and told me she's always wishing she listened to me..
Do you know why she did not listen? She told me herself too (and I wasn't surprised at all), the people around her told her "he just wants to get back with you so he's trying to destroy your new boyfriend's image".
Well, I never had that thought. All I care about is she replaces me with a better person. Someone who is not me and not the worse version of me.
EXACTLY what Ki Joon is doing.
Don't hate him for it because once you are in his shoes, you'll be very frustrated no one wants to listen … and all you can do is watch them destroy themselves.
Love can truly blind a person. Love can make a fool out of the wisest person.
Not because your ex is advising you does it mean your ex wants to get back with you. Or, not because someone's ex is giving you an advise does it mean they are overstepping their boundaries.
Learn to listen first because those who have the most experience are the best teachers.
did really fl has no one to ask relationship advices other than her ex who cheated on her. Did she really takes…
If you've known each other since school days and then had a relationship for years, then yes, you trust each other even after a break up, no matter how bad that break up was.
This is where the maturity of the ex-couple will be tested -- setting boundaries, written or unwritten.
There are actually a lot of ex-couples who are like that, contrary to what mass media and social media wants you to believe. I for one is a living testament to that.
It is not because they have not moved on. The mere fact that they can talk like normal mature adults after a bad break up is proof that they moved on. Whatever spark was between them, whatever anger was between them, it's all gone. They are just two human beings.
Society wants you to believe that you shouldn't talk to your ex'es because it means you haven't moved on. That's a big fat lie. The fact that you still have an emotion for your ex, for example hatred, is solid proof you haven't moved on. A person who truly moved on won't feel any emotion towards their ex'es and they are not afraid to see or talk or to work with them.
We are NOT talking about traumatic experiences here--like rape, physical and verbal abuse, bullying--those are different, it's more personal and inward. So don't confuse it with non-traumatic relationships/break-ups.
That's why the lead characters still talk together. All the good and the bad and the pain they experienced together and have against each other are all gone. That's proof they moved on. They're just two human beings who knows each other deeply more than anyone else. The trust is there. They can read each other, they know what each other is thinking.
Yet, they are platonic with each other. Boundaries. Knowing yourself.
It's hard to explain. Experience is the best teacher. And I can tell you, it's the best experience ever to be able to have another person who truly understands you and can still talk to even if you've decided to go on your separate ways. Only mature ex-couples have that experience.
I think at 25 21 they got far from each other. Name was after it maybe? The biggest event of their lifetime! When…
Yeah. It's weird to have that title when after 13 episodes it still isn't about the title. LOLs.
It's not uncommon but it's usually seen in novels. Makes one wonder what 25-21 is really about.
I'm starting to think similarly, how they went their separate ways, picked up the lessons in life, and found a better future for themselves.
A great ending, instead of the usual "they lived happily ever after". If that will be the case, yeah, I think it's about time we see more stories about life, adulthood, and making decisions.
* 16 episodes * Title: 25-21 * ep13 is already at 24-20
The title can not be episode 16 only so: * ep15 will be 25-21 * ep16 will tie-up the loose ends between 25-21 and "present" - we'll discover who she married
* ep14 will be about their budding -romantic- relationship
Is it just my county or people really aren't that extra about the weather😕. Forecasts are just predictions…
Practically every meteorological agency in the world are hated when reality is far from their predictions, so don't worry about your country. It happens everywhere.
1. "Time doesn't flow"- I am suspecting that they're using the real-world theory that the "all time is 'present…
That's what the block universe theory is about. It is also called "Eternalism" in scientific philosophy. Time doesn't exist. It doesn't flow. There is no "past", "present", nor "future", there is only "now".
I simply changed the block universe theory a little bit to fit into time travel fiction.
I highly recommend joining scientific circles and share your view about time with the community. The block universe theory is, after all, a real scientific theory.
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KJ is a simpleton. He is slow to learn. And he always need confirmation if what he has in mind is a good thing. He also likes to sulk in the corner first before doing anything.
HK is too "high and mighty". She always want to portray a perfect image. She thinks that the people around her should not see how frail she is like everybody else.
It's rare to see these extremes of character in real life. There are but its rare.
Remember that scene in their office rest area? KJ kept talking and touched on how HK is this and that. Exactly the same thing SW told her a few minutes earlier.
So, at first, HK dismissed what SW said, probably got a bit angry too. But when she heard the same from KJ that gave her pause and she started to look inside. "Am I really like that?"
HK won't ask for advice, literally, but she looks at other people's experiences and take it as an advice quietly. She thinks that letting people see her asking for advice and help is like showing them how weak and powerless she is, an image she can not afford--especially after their nasty break up.
While KJ, a fool that he is, actively seeks advice because he understands his own limitations.
Shi Woo obviously was about to make a huge mistake in his life and Ki Joon noticed it, so he gave him advise so he could avoid the same mistake that he did--a fool.
You can listen to someone with more experience even if you hate the person. Shutting them them and telling to f*ck off is a recipe for disaster.
If Shi Woo told him to "get lost", like what the OP said, then he'll definitely make the biggest mistake of his life. If Ki Joon stayed quiet like what the OP wanted, then Shi Woo would've had make the biggest mistake of his life.
There, very short.
The answer is in Episode 1 and Episode 14. It's a story about life; of growing up; of relationships between parents and children; of relationships between friends.
Will it be a happy ending, generally speaking? It depends how you understand the story about life, about growing up.
Will it be a _romantic_ happy ending? Wrong show. :p
Since you want to know the ending, then the following is not a spoiler for you:
Episode 1: Hee Do's daughter is "KIM Min Chae".
Episode 1: Yi Jin is BAEK Yi Jin.
Episode 14: year 2009, Baek Yi Jin congratulated Na Hee Do on her marriage.
Episode 14: year 2009, they were very sad and talked as if they have regrets, that if they can only turn back time they'll make a different decision
Unless there is an unknown tradition in Korea where parents can choose a different family name, like what they do in some African countries.
^_^
-- Na Hee Do 20 years old
-- Baek Yi Jin 24 years old
* 2001
-- Na Hee Do 21 years old
-- Baek Yi Jin 25 years old
-- Show title: Twenty-Five Twenty-One
-- Madrid, Spain competition - Na Hee Do won Gold
* 2005
-- Na Hee Do 25 years old
-- Baek Yi Jin 29 years old
-- Prague, Czech Republic competition - Na Hee Do won Gold -- this is just a guess
* 2007
-- Na Hee Do 27 years old
-- sometime 2007 or early 2008 Na Hee Do was pregnant (assuming the character for Kim Min Chae is the same age as the actress)
* 2008
-- Na Hee Do 28 years old
-- Kim Min Chae was born (1 year old Korean age) (assuming the character is the same age as the actress)
* 2009
-- Na Hee Do 29 years old
-- Baek Yi Jin 33 years old
-- Na Hee Do got married to a Kim
-- July 10, 2009: San Francisco, USA competition - Na Hee Do won Gold
-- UBS broadcast by Baek Yi Jin. Online video upload entitled: "Special relationship between Na Hee Do and Reporter Baek Yi Jin"
* 2016
-- Na Hee Do 36 years old
-- Kim Min Chae started ballet; and recital
* 2021
-- Present time
-- Na Hee Do 41 years old
-- Baek Yi Jin 45 years old (if he's still alive)
-- Kim Min Chae had been doing ballet for 5 years (ep 1)
-- Kim Min Chae is 13 years old (assuming the character is the same age as the actress)
Note #1: All ages are in Korean age
Note #2: The competitions depicted are not real (fencing, ballet)
So how light and comedic is this series?
In your culture, it's easy. In some cultures it isn't.
There are a lot of boundaries and social norms in Korean culture, even between parents and children. If you're not new to K-dramas, then you should have had seen it a lot already. :)
You see, someone who made a mistake in a relationship is the best person to see things clearly. I've been in a relationship with someone, we broke up, and stayed friends. I told her she should not date the new guy, and to actually stay away from him.
Should I have had stayed quiet and "get lost" knowing that she's going to make a bad decision?
1. I know her best more than anyone.
2. I can see the worse version of me on that guy.
Yes, it is ridiculous but it doesn't mean I should stay quiet and just get lost.
Guess what? I was right about the guy and she made a huge mistake.
Guess what? The girl, my ex, admitted as much some ten years later and told me she's always wishing she listened to me..
Do you know why she did not listen? She told me herself too (and I wasn't surprised at all), the people around her told her "he just wants to get back with you so he's trying to destroy your new boyfriend's image".
Well, I never had that thought. All I care about is she replaces me with a better person. Someone who is not me and not the worse version of me.
EXACTLY what Ki Joon is doing.
Don't hate him for it because once you are in his shoes, you'll be very frustrated no one wants to listen … and all you can do is watch them destroy themselves.
Love can truly blind a person. Love can make a fool out of the wisest person.
Not because your ex is advising you does it mean your ex wants to get back with you. Or, not because someone's ex is giving you an advise does it mean they are overstepping their boundaries.
Learn to listen first because those who have the most experience are the best teachers.
This is where the maturity of the ex-couple will be tested -- setting boundaries, written or unwritten.
There are actually a lot of ex-couples who are like that, contrary to what mass media and social media wants you to believe. I for one is a living testament to that.
It is not because they have not moved on. The mere fact that they can talk like normal mature adults after a bad break up is proof that they moved on. Whatever spark was between them, whatever anger was between them, it's all gone. They are just two human beings.
Society wants you to believe that you shouldn't talk to your ex'es because it means you haven't moved on. That's a big fat lie. The fact that you still have an emotion for your ex, for example hatred, is solid proof you haven't moved on. A person who truly moved on won't feel any emotion towards their ex'es and they are not afraid to see or talk or to work with them.
We are NOT talking about traumatic experiences here--like rape, physical and verbal abuse, bullying--those are different, it's more personal and inward. So don't confuse it with non-traumatic relationships/break-ups.
That's why the lead characters still talk together. All the good and the bad and the pain they experienced together and have against each other are all gone. That's proof they moved on. They're just two human beings who knows each other deeply more than anyone else. The trust is there. They can read each other, they know what each other is thinking.
Yet, they are platonic with each other. Boundaries. Knowing yourself.
It's hard to explain. Experience is the best teacher. And I can tell you, it's the best experience ever to be able to have another person who truly understands you and can still talk to even if you've decided to go on your separate ways. Only mature ex-couples have that experience.
^_^
Try it.
It's not uncommon but it's usually seen in novels. Makes one wonder what 25-21 is really about.
I'm starting to think similarly, how they went their separate ways, picked up the lessons in life, and found a better future for themselves.
A great ending, instead of the usual "they lived happily ever after". If that will be the case, yeah, I think it's about time we see more stories about life, adulthood, and making decisions.
* Title: 25-21
* ep13 is already at 24-20
The title can not be episode 16 only so:
* ep15 will be 25-21
* ep16 will tie-up the loose ends between 25-21 and "present" - we'll discover who she married
* ep14 will be about their budding -romantic- relationship
:P
I simply changed the block universe theory a little bit to fit into time travel fiction.
I highly recommend joining scientific circles and share your view about time with the community. The block universe theory is, after all, a real scientific theory.
^_^