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episode 4:

Ogami has an interesting type of handsomeness.
This show is quite good. I don't normally go for supernatural BL stuff; it usually feels stupid. But this is working for me. Acting's good, too.
So does the second Kano switch back and forth from world to world when the first Kano makes a switch, but in the opposite direction?
I half-hoped we'd get to see Kano 1 run into Kano 2 in the same, second world...thermonuclear explosion, obliterating all space and time for eternity.

The intro credits sequence is damn cool for a BL.

Perhaps those qualities will emerge in the first Ogami as he loosens up.

You're the problem.

You are the problem.
JJW did not "get away with" anything. nearly 40 years ago, he participated in some offense. He was caught, and it was dealt with inside the juvenile justice system. That is the end of it. What is accomplished by destroying the man's career all this time later for something that was addressed way back then?

No, you did not directly say JJW is a bully or a sex offender, but you mentioned those offenses in your comment above, in which you were talking about JJW, the implication being that JJW IS those things. That is how rumors and false information spread online.

I have never said "bullies should get away with their crimes." You're the type who makes up things commenters never said, then react to what you made up. I don't play that game.

What is it with your type, that you insist on moral judgment on celebrities, whether they committed a "crime" or not, and think destroying a person's livelihood and reputation is a punishment you get to inflict when the accusations are rumors and trash, submitted by anonymous people online 35 years later?

I'll assume you're Korean, but regardless of where you are, your perspective on this is deeply messed up.

Another thing I never said is that you don't get to express your opinion. You expressed your opinion loud and clear, and I responded to it. That's what happens in discussion threads. You have the right to post whatever, but you don't have the right not to receive negative opinions in response.

You are part of the reason so many Korean celebs take their own lives.
No one gets even a second chance with people like you. One strike and they're out.

Whatever JJW did, he was a MINOR at the time. He was punished for the offense, and that should be the end of it. If offenders are never forgiven for their crimes, even if they went through the justice system and paid their dues, then what incentive is there for anyone to truly reform and move on with a good life, as JJW has done? No matter what they do to atone, people like you will come along nearly 40 years later and get their panties in a twist over it.

JJW is NOT a sex offender. Learn to use Google and do so before commenting on a topic.

JJW knows how it works with these "scandals" about nothing in Korea. Once an accusation about something has been made, no matter where or who it comes from, or how obviously bogus it is, the press and netizens will pile on until he either retires or kills himself. Better to recognize the reality of the sick situation and get out alive.

I just hope we don't get a repeat of Lee Sun Kyun checking out nearly two years ago.
Obviously, Korean press learned nothing from that horrific incident. These people are vultures.

Whatever happened, it was over 35 years ago, and he was a minor. Who cares?

Why should JJW pay a penalty to anyone for anything?
You should remove that link you included above. The article it goes to is nothing but gossip and unfounded speculation, much of it from some anonymous troll online who could be any person Earth. Why on Earth would you link to such garbage?

I hope JJW sues Dispatch into oblivion.

Hi.
What efforts to rescue his image have there been?

Well said. In just a few days, it will have been two years since one of Korea's finest actors, Lee Sun Kyun, took his own life after incessant harassment by law enforcement, media, and public. After his death, it turned out he'd been blackmailed, and the drug allegations against him, made by a fucking prostitute, were 100% false.

But at the time he checked out, to his mind, he really had no other choice. It's the only way his wife and kids would ever know peace, and he knew it. He was right.

She has no idea what she's babbling about anyway.

By the way, our president is also an ADJUDICATED RAPIST.

This is nonsense.

Am I correct in assuming that by "intentional," you meant "international?"
If so...first of all, no one in these comments has "acted" like any such thing.
Second of all, you are shamefully, willfuly ignorant on this matter, and it shows. Maybe stop yapping about things you know nothing about.

I'm live in the U.S. and we do NOT have celebrities killing themselves at anywhere near the rate they do in Korea, and have done so for at least 25 years.
Korea's overall suicide rate is 29.1 per 100,000, the highest by far among OECD nations and DOUBLE that of the U.S.
No other country has the insane, puritanical, psycho attitude towards celebs that Korea does. In Korea, people think you owe them your very soul if you succeed as an entertainer, and thus apply crazy-ass standards of conduct they themselves could never pass. This successful, popular actor just saw his career destroyed by bullying allegations and incidents from more than THIRTY years ago, for which he was already punished.

In Korea, you get NO second chances, even if your first blown chance came 35 years ago when you were in junior high or high school. That is madness. How many people haven't done something they'd like no one to know about over the past 35/40 years? By contrast, in America, you get second, third, fourth, and fifth chances, and if, in the end, you improve yourself, pay your debt to people and society, and succeed, 95% of the public will applaud you. In Korea, entertainers never, ever get a chance at redemption.

Even worse, as in the case of Lee Sun Kyun, who killed himself nearly two years ago because of attitudes like yours, it doesn't matter at all if what you are accused of is complete bullshit. You will be destroyed anyway.

But I'll not waste further effort responding to you. You're the problem, and it's unlikely you'll educate yourself and change. I hope you get what you enable to happen to others.

"Lily Malice" Love it. :D

Two possibilities: Lily Phallus (how's that one? :D) sold her soul to Satan long ago and has nothing to lose anyway, or it's a bot/AI/cyborg and never had a soul to sell. In either case, I doubt karma is a concern.

I don't get people complaining about the mdl rating being too "low?"
How is 7.5 on a 10 scale "low?"
It's actually far too HIGH.

Anyway, in my view, this is garbage.
I'm mortified for Yoo Ah In that he's in this. Of course, he's great in every one of his scenes, but the plot is so stupid and much of the other acting so weak; he can't carry the whole damn thing alone.

I've been itching to drop this since early in the first episode, but I held on because of all the favorable hype I've been subjected to over the last four years. All of it was unwarranted. It's objectively terrible. The CGI is lame af.

dropped for good.

1/10

Wow, you've given me some good stuff to think on, and too much to respond to this minute. I'll let what you've shared percolate overnight and see what pours out for morning breakfast. :)

Thank you for your thoughtful, non-hysterical approach to your reply.
I appreciate it.

I do want to make on thing clear: This show does not "bother" me in the sense you seem to mean it here. I don't think about it unless I'm on this page or watching an episode. I def don't lose sleep over it. :)

I know my writing style is often spastic/sarcastic/bombastic ("stics!" Is it OK to use "spastic" as long as I'm referring to myself?), though, so I get that it can be taken as revealing emotions I don't feel. :)

Yes, that Kikuchi/Igarashi wrap-up was as out-of-left-field and rushed as it gets in BL World.

Oh gosh, you wrote "Period. Full stop." I guess that makes your mistaken grammar lesson factual, which it's not.

You are correct in one sense: The show was created FOR "teen girls who..." And if you fit the cohort of teen girls who do and are what is in the description that follows, then as I wrote above, be insulted, Be offended. You should be. I'm glad.

Did you know that just because a show is designed for a specific cohort, it does not follow that NO ONE ELSE is allowed to watch and enjoy it? It's true! Of course, that brings into question the tastes and discernment of those people, but does not automatically shove them into the audience I specifically described. But that's another discussion, and apparently, beyond your comprehension.

Those of us who choose to watch this series despite its flaws, because there are redeemable elements among the mess (Hioki's cuteness), and because we've already lost four hours of our lives to it, so why not one more, at least have the good sense to call it out as mostly flotsam.

I drop MOST BLs I start watching. Many others, of good quality, I thoroughly enjoy and watch to the end. And then, there are shows like this one, which fall somewhere in between, that we finish while holding our noses. I'd bet you've done the same. But gray areas, discernment, self-awareness, and reality are not your forte, so...you do you.

Korea has the highest suicide rate, by far, in every demographic category, of all developed nations.