Omg...... I don't get who is more toxic in this series...... Koh is so manipulative, he literally blew my mind…
Why was Pheem wrong to hook up with a rando chick after being rejected by Jira? He doesn't owe Jira anything. If you think he was after Jira only for sex and has no feelings for him, you're not watching the show.
What, was he supposed to go home and cry alone all night after Jira shit all over him with his "oh, I'm just not ready right now...." cock tease bit? Please.
Gun is gunning for the next award ……and why not …he is totally killing it !!!
You don't see his acting as...repetitive? I always feel I know exactly how he will deliver a given scene, and I'm almost always right. He is the opposite of unpredictable.
Same old dance with these two...same old vibe, no matter what roles they play. I wonder how many more years they can keep this creaking old ship afloat...
Gun has been in the LadyBoy phase of his career for over ten years now. Crying on cue won't carry him forever.
AJ as Mawin is the most enjoyable part of this show. And those lips... Dew/Pheem shows promise.
The most offensive aspect of this drama is the complete lack of sex.
The next time GMM produces a drama prominently featuring an artist and their work, they should probably spring for the real thing...unless I'm mistaken and we're meant to understand that Jira's work is amateurish and that Koh's appreciation for it is entirely feigned. If that's the case, then, the art is perfect, as is.
When the lead and that other, handsome member of the friend group went into the "back room" of the nightclub,…
You make many valid points. I agree with all of them. YJ is smart to go to Canada. Perhaps, in the sequel I'm writing, CJ will follow him there... :)
Believe me, I know all about the Korean Celeb Suicide Machine. It has been breaking my heart and enraging me for seven years. From my profile custom list page: https://mydramalist.com/list/1drDvBV3
Korea has the highest suicide rate AND the highest alcoholism rate among all OECD nations. Something to be proud of, eh?
Don't be scared. They're where I watch all my Asian shows/movies. Just have good adblockers/virus protection. I've been doing this for seven years with zero problems. Let me know if you want some links.
When the lead and that other, handsome member of the friend group went into the "back room" of the nightclub,…
From what I read, there a lot of hip, happening gay clubs, restaurants, saunas in the Itaewon and Hongdae sections of Seoul, as well as some very gay neighborhoods.
No, it is not Canada, but not ALL of Korea is a homo-hating nightmare.
Here's the thing about YJ: Given his lack of self-respect and level of insecurity, he will not FEEL accepted, no matter where he goes. I said earlier, he is well-accepted, even admired and included, by the group of gay friends he hangs with in the movie. To me, he seemed a vital cog in that social machine. Did you see how, especially early in the film, he is greeting people left and right, high-fiving, hugging and being greeted wherever he goes? He was far from excluded.
As the movie progresses, we come to see how little he thinks of himself, despite that facade he maintains. He will carry the facade to Canada. I love this saying, because it is true: "No matter where you go, there you are." Changing his location won't change HIM. He will still think he's "ugly" in Canada.
wth? Subs just stopped at about 1:00:00, and no more after that...?Majorly frustrating. I was really enjoying…
Go to top of page and enter "3670" in the search bar and hit enter, then click on the title when the link shows up. That refreshes the entire page and you'll see all of our back-and-forth.
wth? Subs just stopped at about 1:00:00, and no more after that...?Majorly frustrating. I was really enjoying…
hmmm...I replied to these thoughts from another comment of yours. I haven't erased any of my comments. I think we're overlapping and getting discombobulated. :)
When the lead and that other, handsome member of the friend group went into the "back room" of the nightclub,…
Here are some conclusions I reached during the film, in bullet points:
-From start to finish, YJ was in love with CJ. -As the film progressed, CJ, started feeling romantic love for YJ, and by film's end, was IN love with him. -YJ, though highly intelligent, funny, and a key member of the friend group, the glue that in many ways held it together, was extremely insecure, mainly because of his looks (it broke my heart when he mentioned he knew he was "ugly."). Because of this, he was always primed to reject any affection from CJ because, in his heart, he felt unworthy of it. -CJ let him go at the end, without hysterics, because he had emotionally matured from film's start, and understood that guilting YJ into staying wouldn't work; that YJ's insecurities would doom a relationship.
Questions: Do you agree that CJ fell in love with YJ by film's end? Or...had he come to see YJ as a dearly beloved friend whom he treasured as a confidante and companion? Where, exactly, did YJ go at the end?
(I somehow lost the first half of this comment in the posting process. If I remember what I was yammering about, I'll share it later.)
Perhaps it's my American movie-going roots showing, but I'd love a sequel in which CJ/YJ reunite and end up as a couple. :)
No, I meant just the opposite. He has no range. His characterizations and acting are always the same, regardless of role.
Knowing AI slop when I see it is part of my job, and I do it well.
Try using your mind to think your own thoughts and your fingertips to type your own words. I promise it won't kill you.
What, was he supposed to go home and cry alone all night after Jira shit all over him with his "oh, I'm just not ready right now...." cock tease bit? Please.
I always feel I know exactly how he will deliver a given scene, and I'm almost always right.
He is the opposite of unpredictable.
And how does the director's trans status show up in the drama, in your opinion?
Thanks.
I wonder how many more years they can keep this creaking old ship afloat...
Gun has been in the LadyBoy phase of his career for over ten years now.
Crying on cue won't carry him forever.
AJ as Mawin is the most enjoyable part of this show. And those lips...
Dew/Pheem shows promise.
The most offensive aspect of this drama is the complete lack of sex.
The next time GMM produces a drama prominently featuring an artist and their work, they should probably spring for the real thing...unless I'm mistaken and we're meant to understand that Jira's work is amateurish and that Koh's appreciation for it is entirely feigned. If that's the case, then, the art is perfect, as is.
YJ is smart to go to Canada.
Perhaps, in the sequel I'm writing, CJ will follow him there... :)
Believe me, I know all about the Korean Celeb Suicide Machine.
It has been breaking my heart and enraging me for seven years.
From my profile custom list page:
https://mydramalist.com/list/1drDvBV3
Korea has the highest suicide rate AND the highest alcoholism rate among all OECD nations.
Something to be proud of, eh?
Just have good adblockers/virus protection.
I've been doing this for seven years with zero problems.
Let me know if you want some links.
No, it is not Canada, but not ALL of Korea is a homo-hating nightmare.
Here's the thing about YJ: Given his lack of self-respect and level of insecurity, he will not FEEL accepted, no matter where he goes. I said earlier, he is well-accepted, even admired and included, by the group of gay friends he hangs with in the movie. To me, he seemed a vital cog in that social machine. Did you see how, especially early in the film, he is greeting people left and right, high-fiving, hugging and being greeted wherever he goes? He was far from excluded.
As the movie progresses, we come to see how little he thinks of himself, despite that facade he maintains. He will carry the facade to Canada. I love this saying, because it is true: "No matter where you go, there you are." Changing his location won't change HIM. He will still think he's "ugly" in Canada.
That refreshes the entire page and you'll see all of our back-and-forth.
-From start to finish, YJ was in love with CJ.
-As the film progressed, CJ, started feeling romantic love for YJ, and by film's end, was IN love with him.
-YJ, though highly intelligent, funny, and a key member of the friend group, the glue that in many ways held it together, was extremely insecure, mainly because of his looks (it broke my heart when he mentioned he knew he was "ugly."). Because of this, he was always primed to reject any affection from CJ because, in his heart, he felt unworthy of it.
-CJ let him go at the end, without hysterics, because he had emotionally matured from film's start, and understood that guilting YJ into staying wouldn't work; that YJ's insecurities would doom a relationship.
Questions:
Do you agree that CJ fell in love with YJ by film's end?
Or...had he come to see YJ as a dearly beloved friend whom he treasured as a confidante and companion?
Where, exactly, did YJ go at the end?
(I somehow lost the first half of this comment in the posting process. If I remember what I was yammering about, I'll share it later.)
Perhaps it's my American movie-going roots showing, but I'd love a sequel in which CJ/YJ reunite and end up as a couple. :)
Did you see my other response(s) to you in this thread asking endless questions about plot points?