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To non-Netz MDLers: I reported and got removed from this thread, FIVE comments left by Knetz. Report them when they violate the commenting rules clearly stated above. It's fun to turn them in and watch them disappear! Read below:

Thank you, MDL, for removing comments reported for calling KSH by terms such as "pedophile" and "abuser," labeling him for crimes of which he has not been charged or convicted.

Likewise, thank you for removing comments calling for KSH to kill himself or be killed by someone else. It is refreshing to know MDL will no longer tolerate such despicable garbage in its comment threads.

Notice to Netz from anywhere: Watch what you say. Others can and will report you to the mods. Crossing the line can get you banned from MDL altogether.

You should write cheesy, revenge dramas. You don't know squat about this case.

I second this!

The Korean wave of celebrity suicides really only got going after Princess Diana's death, but I get your point. These people attacking KSH are nutjobs.

Reported.
KSH has not been proven to be a "pedophile." You are a liar.

No one cares what you doubt.

Reported.

Also, since I often criticize MDL for printing trashy articles that spread rumors and falsehoods about celebrities with zero credible evidence, I must say BRAVO! to MDL for publishing KSH's attorneys' statements without editorializing or sensationalizing it.

Good job, MDL!

Are you asserting that KSH somehow promotes "genocide?"

Knetz Killer Klown alert!

I don't see anything in your post that isn't in the statement above.

Why on Earth would you "hate" that? I found it inspiring, touching, and beautiful. She is a human being who made a big mistake and was suffering for it. But, the object of her mistake, a lovely man named Akin, FORGAVE her, which is a kind, generous thing for him to do. It shows us a lot about how good-hearted a person Akin is. And the over-zealous fan learned a huge and valuable lesson. Odds are, she will tell her other Akin stan friends how awesome and lovely he was, and good things will flow in all directions from this.

That you would rather have seen her charged and convicted, her life ruined at a young age over this, says a great deal about YOU. The judgementalism and vengeful attitudes toward others I see on MDL are scary.

This is a live-action, fiction drama. I would rather have whoever does what to whom be determined by the writers of the drama. If Akin had been nailed by the stage actor for real in the story, obviously it would be much more interesting/dramatic/challenging/exciting than the cop-out, little "oh, it never happened" explanation we got.

It doesn't matter what I "would rather have happen." I don't look to Thai dramas for my moral lessons, nor do I run out and have random sex outside my relationship just because I saw it happen in a series.

You sound immature. Human beings are fallible and make mistakes. People have affairs outside their relationships for all kinds of reasons; that is just a fact. And in many cases, the relationship can survive and thrive thereafter. "...cheating means the person doesn't care about their partner." No, no it does not necessarily mean that. In many cases there is a temporary rift in the relationship between two people who love each other, but something happens that leads to an affair.

"...but unfortunately many times forgiveness happens which sort of shows it’s ok to cheat as your partner will forgive anyways."

This is as judgemental and evil an attitude as I've seen here, but I know a lot of MDLers think this way: Why on Earth would you NOT want there to be forgiveness and a new beginning for romantic partners who hit a bump in a road, got over it, came together closer than before and went forward together in their lives with no further extramarital problems? Why would you wish that on other people? Why wouldn't you hope their relationship survives and they get back together?

"which sort of shows it’s ok to cheat as your partner will forgive anyways."

Good heavens, you really DO look to Thai dramas for your moral lessons. All the above shows is that a partner in a fictional drama cheated, then asked for forgiveness, it was granted, and they got back together. It doesn't show that in every situation like this in the real world the exact same thing SHOULD happen or DOES happen. The relationship in the story has nothing to do with my personal choices or yours.

This is not a difficult thing to understand. Over and over again, I am flabbergasted by people like you who look to fictional stories for moral guidance, and think it's horrible if anything happens they don't approve of. Stop watching the show if it offends you. There are hundreds of dramas in which there is no cheating at all. But cheating shows up frequently in shows because it is DRAMATIC and a common human frailty most people react strongly to, either way.

OK, I am wasting my time with this, because I know your type and you're not going to change your mind, no matter how sensibly I write here. Go believe what you will about the show. But I do suggest finding a better source of moral inspiration and guidance than BL dramas.

Do you mean viewer ratings, as in how many people see the series, or MDL ratings, which are essentially meaningless? :)

Writers and director/producers who pay attention to the opinions of screeching little MDL Church Girls are in the wrong business. Those prudes make up a very small demographic of MDL's membership but they, like their vile cousins the Netizens, are LOUD af.

There are THOUSANDS of people who lurk on this site, staying out of comment threads because they know the Church Girls will swarm them if they speak their minds. My MDL friends list is full of such people.

"Jin Hwan states that the difference between them makes it fun, but fails to be considerate of those differences." oooh...I like this observation. Thanks for sharing it.

I've only mentioned it once before with another commenter I was arguing with above, but when JH ambushed MJ by showing up as part of his work team without warning, did you perceive him as an arrogant, smirking jerk? Recall how he seemed to enjoy MJ's natural confusion and angst at his reappearance after eight years? He stood there, making vague allusions and suggestions, moved in close to make MJ uncomfortable, etc.

He came up behind MJ and gripped his shoulder, he rubbed his shoulders (at work!), etc. He seemed to be doing anything he could to keep MJ apprehensive and on high alert at all times. Is this how one acts upon returning to claim their first and only love? Hardly.

So, those things were either the director deliberately misdirecting the audience or JH is a jerk. I vote for the latter.

"...but suggesting self-reflection upsets you." And you know this how? I self-reflect all the time. You should see my therapy bills.

I'm breaking my commitment to not argue with you, but...how does the gender change anything? He could have been referring to a guy or a girl, or both. What matters is that from MJ's perspective, he is a player. Thus, since he didn't know the guy well anyway, he reached his conclusions and left. It's not as though MJ heard the conversation after five years of a steady relationship, in which case a chat about it would be appropriate.

Cutting off someone who seems to be a player is essential to dating and self-care. Particularly if you know yourself to be a sensitive person.

Adaptations regularly change/rearrange/eliminate all kinds of source material elements. The lame little twist I referred to above is no less lame for having been in a Manga first.

Episode 9: That was the SECOND time this plot set up an incredibly intense/dramatic situation and then copped out with a bogus, last-second, cotton candy reveal. Lame.

Toey is hot.
Boom is going on my Best BL Actors list.