This is unlike any drama-watching experience I've had, and there are too many things going on in my reactions to the show to explain why that is, in an obnoxiously long comment, let alone a brief paragraph, so I'll only try a little bit.
Over and over within each episode, I feel these multilayered emotional arcs occurring, and often it feels as though they conclude in a miniature climactic scene. Part of me must feel that the episode is ending, because over and over, I find myself checking how much time is left and being surprised that there is significant time remaining. I feel I'm seeing multiple episodes within each episode, and yet they all fit together as one.
It's quite strange...and wonderful.
I love how booze and boozing is being presented here as the important supporting character it really is in Korean life, for better and for worse. Drinking shows up in American films/series, of course, and professional characters are certainly shown scheming or celebrating or whatever over evening cocktails. Sometimes, there are drunken scenes, of course. But, Korean drinking, and not only that, but drunken carousing with fellow professionals, is at a whole other level. This drama owns that, leans into it, and isn't shy about it. A few characters have puked already. lol
Korea has the highest rate of alcoholism and alcohol abuse among all OECD nations. I absolutely love that this show is being so upfront about that, but, at the same time not making it into a separate issue of some kind. Shit-faced, almost nightly boozing is woven into the plot of WAATH, just as it is woven into Korean culture, in such a way that you can make something of that or you can leave it be.
I don't know...I find that refreshing. Now, maybe it's this way in most K-dramas. I don't know, because I watch far more K-films than dramas. But I have watched a fair number, and I don't recall having this reaction to it.
The honesty about booze is another indicator of how much naked, emotional honesty is going on in the rest of the story.
Yes, I thought that was great. However the Korean creative community is currently way ahead of the kdrama audience…
Just so I understand, do you mean that the creative community is way ahead of the Kdrama AND film communities, or are you distinguishing between the latter two?
I will check out Unwritten Seoul. Thanks for the tip. :)
Their relationship is not the least bit creepy, that's what enrages the MDL Church Girl Morals Police crowd here.Tutor…
What line is it exactly, that you feel was crossed? As far as I'm concerned, any crossing of arbitrary lines was 100% facilitated by the crime of being human and gay under extraordinarily stressful, punitive circumstances. And, to me, that's no crime at all.
In most courts, the issue of harm will arise when assessing a trial case. In this case, there was help, not harm; help that may have saved a life.
I love the Akira/Tutor relationship arc. You described it far better than I have, mainly because I find myself focused on the emotional support/connection aspect rather than the legal. Two lonely, sad people found each other and helped each other. The world needs more such "crimes."
Yes, PJH was very good here, but the emotional core of the story was the village chief, played spectacularly by…
Since here you are replying to me again, I suppose you, too, need to "go outside and interact with people," right?
Praise whoever you want, follow who you want. Yes, the reason you nominated PJH for an Oscar in your "lovely" comment is that you are biased and your bias affected your opinion, which is, as you said, yours.
To rave over an actor in a large supporting role while failing to so much as mention YHJ who carried the movie, is absurd.
"I can also tell you have not read my comment because I said YHJ is the one getting praise and is better known in Korea." You are correct, I mistook your meaning in that regard, so my response was inaccurate. Sorry...I guess...?
Cho Yoo-hyun Nominated as Best New Actor for his work in "3670," a fantastic gay film no one seems to know about. He is exceptional in the role. He didn't win, but hell, he was up against Park Ji Hoon, so what were the chances? :D Could this be a crack in the wall of homophobia surrounding the Korean film industry? Hope so! :D
Thrilled and surprised to see this: Cho Yoo-hyun Nominated as Best New Actor for his work in "3670," a fantastic gay film no one seems to know about. He is exceptional in the role. Could this be a crack in the wall of homophobia surrounding the Korean film industry? Hope so! :D
Yes, PJH was very good here, but the emotional core of the story was the village chief, played spectacularly by…
I didn't "...speak as if..." anything you wrote. My comment is not ambiguous or confusing, so I've no idea why you're "confused."
What is the "knet side?" The knet side of what? Are you saying PJH is "better known" in Korea than YHJ, who is a famous, veteran actor with a film resume a mile long? I would dispute that.
Nevertheless, you nominated PJH, whose time on screen is far less than that of YHJ's, and whose character and acting take a supporting role to YHJ, given the way this film tells its story, for a freaking Oscar. The film is far more about the village and the village chief than it is about the the prince. Yet, PJH gets your Oscar nom, while your OP doesn't even mention YHJ, who as I wrote, is the emotional heart of this story.
I did not say you were the "...only one praising his performance." Stop making things up. Of course, YHJ is going to say glowing things about his costar; that's how PR and film promotion work. Frankly, I can think of a few other young actors who could have played the prince, and the film would have worked just as well. I say that as a big fan of PJH. I wrote in my reply to you that he is "a great actor." Good grief. What more do you want?
It's hilarious that you describe your own comment as "lovely." It's mega-hilarious that you feel my brief comment, which is more clarifying than critical, "ruined" your already-posted comment before it. Your comment is what it is. People can have opinions about it, but the only one who can "ruin" it is you, by editing it in some way.
Finally, are you the president of the MDL PJH Fan Club?
Wonder if we will ... As actor it seems Jed CHung is quite at peace with playing very intimate scenes but it's…
Well...couple #2 already showed in an earlier episode an enthusiastic willingness to give the intimacy the dedication it deserves. Remember when they nearly went at it when they were drunk?
Love the vibe of this show: Naughty but also sincere. However...I'm suspicious that one or the other of them, or both!!!, are not totally sincere here...that the competition is truly ongoing.
Sexy scenes. First, the Taiwanese got me all worked up with "Wishing On the Shooting Stars," and now the Japanese are following up with more of the same on the same day. :P
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This is unlike any drama-watching experience I've had, and there are too many things going on in my reactions to the show to explain why that is, in an obnoxiously long comment, let alone a brief paragraph, so I'll only try a little bit.
Over and over within each episode, I feel these multilayered emotional arcs occurring, and often it feels as though they conclude in a miniature climactic scene. Part of me must feel that the episode is ending, because over and over, I find myself checking how much time is left and being surprised that there is significant time remaining. I feel I'm seeing multiple episodes within each episode, and yet they all fit together as one.
It's quite strange...and wonderful.
I love how booze and boozing is being presented here as the important supporting character it really is in Korean life, for better and for worse. Drinking shows up in American films/series, of course, and professional characters are certainly shown scheming or celebrating or whatever over evening cocktails. Sometimes, there are drunken scenes, of course. But, Korean drinking, and not only that, but drunken carousing with fellow professionals, is at a whole other level. This drama owns that, leans into it, and isn't shy about it. A few characters have puked already. lol
Korea has the highest rate of alcoholism and alcohol abuse among all OECD nations. I absolutely love that this show is being so upfront about that, but, at the same time not making it into a separate issue of some kind. Shit-faced, almost nightly boozing is woven into the plot of WAATH, just as it is woven into Korean culture, in such a way that you can make something of that or you can leave it be.
I don't know...I find that refreshing.
Now, maybe it's this way in most K-dramas. I don't know, because I watch far more K-films than dramas. But I have watched a fair number, and I don't recall having this reaction to it.
The honesty about booze is another indicator of how much naked, emotional honesty is going on in the rest of the story.
I will check out Unwritten Seoul. Thanks for the tip. :)
As far as I'm concerned, any crossing of arbitrary lines was 100% facilitated by the crime of being human and gay under extraordinarily stressful, punitive circumstances.
And, to me, that's no crime at all.
In most courts, the issue of harm will arise when assessing a trial case.
In this case, there was help, not harm; help that may have saved a life.
I love the Akira/Tutor relationship arc.
You described it far better than I have, mainly because I find myself focused on the emotional support/connection aspect rather than the legal.
Two lonely, sad people found each other and helped each other.
The world needs more such "crimes."
There is no rule against that. It's true!
So...ARE you the president of the MDL PJH Fan Club?
Praise whoever you want, follow who you want. Yes, the reason you nominated PJH for an Oscar in your "lovely" comment is that you are biased and your bias affected your opinion, which is, as you said, yours.
To rave over an actor in a large supporting role while failing to so much as mention YHJ who carried the movie, is absurd.
"I can also tell you have not read my comment because I said YHJ is the one getting praise and is better known in Korea."
You are correct, I mistook your meaning in that regard, so my response was inaccurate. Sorry...I guess...?
I already have commented on YHJ's performance.
Without them, I wouldn't have been able to see 99.9% of the Asian content I've consumed over the last seven years.
Cho Yoo-hyun Nominated as Best New Actor for his work in "3670," a fantastic gay film no one seems to know about. He is exceptional in the role.
He didn't win, but hell, he was up against Park Ji Hoon, so what were the chances? :D
Could this be a crack in the wall of homophobia surrounding the Korean film industry?
Hope so! :D
https://news.mydramalist.com/article/winners-nominees-of-the-62nd-baeksang-arts-awards
Cho Yoo-hyun Nominated as Best New Actor for his work in "3670," a fantastic gay film no one seems to know about. He is exceptional in the role.
Could this be a crack in the wall of homophobia surrounding the Korean film industry?
Hope so! :D
https://mydramalist.com/793244-3670
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt36733209/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_3670
If anyone wants a link to watch "3670" online, message me, or reply to this comment.
YHJ Wins Grand Prize Baeksang Art Award for his work in "The King's Warden."
PJH Wins Best New Actor Baeksang Art Award for his work in "The King's Warden."
https://news.mydramalist.com/article/winners-nominees-of-the-62nd-baeksang-arts-awards
Question, though: In what universe is PJH, who's been acting in films/dramas since childhood, a "Best NEW Actor?"
PJH Wins Best New Actor Baeksang Art Award for his work in "The King's Warden."
https://news.mydramalist.com/article/winners-nominees-of-the-62nd-baeksang-arts-awards
My comment is not ambiguous or confusing, so I've no idea why you're "confused."
What is the "knet side?" The knet side of what?
Are you saying PJH is "better known" in Korea than YHJ, who is a famous, veteran actor with a film resume a mile long?
I would dispute that.
Nevertheless, you nominated PJH, whose time on screen is far less than that of YHJ's, and whose character and acting take a supporting role to YHJ, given the way this film tells its story, for a freaking Oscar.
The film is far more about the village and the village chief than it is about the the prince.
Yet, PJH gets your Oscar nom, while your OP doesn't even mention YHJ, who as I wrote, is the emotional heart of this story.
I did not say you were the "...only one praising his performance."
Stop making things up.
Of course, YHJ is going to say glowing things about his costar; that's how PR and film promotion work. Frankly, I can think of a few other young actors who could have played the prince, and the film would have worked just as well.
I say that as a big fan of PJH. I wrote in my reply to you that he is "a great actor." Good grief. What more do you want?
It's hilarious that you describe your own comment as "lovely."
It's mega-hilarious that you feel my brief comment, which is more clarifying than critical, "ruined" your already-posted comment before it.
Your comment is what it is.
People can have opinions about it, but the only one who can "ruin" it is you, by editing it in some way.
Finally, are you the president of the MDL PJH Fan Club?
Love the vibe of this show: Naughty but also sincere.
However...I'm suspicious that one or the other of them, or both!!!, are not totally sincere here...that the competition is truly ongoing.
Sexy scenes. First, the Taiwanese got me all worked up with "Wishing On the Shooting Stars," and now the Japanese are following up with more of the same on the same day. :P