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"That's a bold statement under a series that had one of the most disappointing kisses I can think of. "

Agreed. Which is why I added at the end of my comment above:
"9/10 (There are two unfortunate dead-fish kisses. Minus 1/2 point for each.)"

Agree with everything else your wrote about the kisses too, which is why I wrote in response to another commenter below:
"I just finished watching this. I'm going to rate it 9/10, primarily for its uniqueness of style and mood, as well as the good acting. The only glaring deficiency is those kisses, and for that I blame the director. He needed to push the actors the extra 20% that was needed or to cut the kisses out.

Dead-fish kisses are the WORST. Not only because they are reflective of an immature and downright goofy attitude toward kissing in live-action drama, but they KILL whatever led up to them, no matter how well done.

The scene leading up to the first smooch was well-acted, then the dead-fish kiss blew it all to hell. ugh."

So...yeah, we're on the same page. :D

I try to give extra weight to the positive side for good BLs here, because I know so many MDLers will do just the opposite.

It's incredibly telling that you completely ignored the alcohol/"drugs" issue. You ignored it because you have no rational explanation for it.

"Whataboutism," my ass. WHY is booze OK but pot is not? Why? It's a very simple question. Answer it?

Why would I be angry at Yoo Ah In? Why should he be "blamed," and punished, for having an illness, IF he has one, that has nothing whatsoever to do with his profession or his ability to complete his obligations in regard to "Goodbye Earth" and Netflix? Why should he refrain from pot smoking while in the United States, where no one gives a shit, and yet be charged for same in Korea?

Tell me, do you blame Lee Sun Kyun for being dead? After all, he went to a bar where he met a horrible person who blackmailed and spread horrible lies about him, isn't that right? I'm guessing in your world that makes it all LSK's fault? He deserves to be dead, right?

You are exactly what is wrong with Korea's Psycho Celebrity Suicide Machine culture. Be very proud of the role you play in that. Are you Korean or do you just play one on MDL?

ADVISORY:
If you are a fan of most Thai or Pinoy BLs, this show is not for you.
If you think "Bad Buddy" is a masterpiece, and that "The Untamed" is a romance, this show is not for you.
If "Secret Crush On You" or "2gether" ring your bell, please go away.
This show is not for you.

You will not understand it. It will fly over your head. You will be confounded and confused. Please spare yourself the suffering and leave now.

Thanks.

For those of you who appreciate deliberate, focused story telling, with excellent direction and acting, and a complete absence of product placements or high-fives where there should be f**king, please do watch and enjoy "Gray Shelter."

9/10 (There are two unfortunate dead-fish kisses. Minus 1/2 point for each.)

I just finished watching this. I'm going to rate it 9/10, primarily for its uniqueness of style and mood, as well as the good acting. The only glaring deficiency is those kisses, and for that I blame the director. He needed to push the actors the extra 20% that was needed or to cut the kisses out.

Dead-fish kisses are the WORST. Not only because they are reflective of an immature and downright goofy attitude toward kissing in live-action drama, but they KILL whatever led up to them, no matter how well done.

The scene leading up to the first smooch was well-acted, then the dead-fish kiss blew it all to hell. ugh.

Nice comment. I'm with you all the way.

As for MDL ratings, they used to drive me nuts too, until one day I did some research and discovered that 25% of the MDL membership consists of American SJW/PC Little Girls and that explains everything. These people, even if they're 35 years old, are still the ASJWPCLGs I mentioned above. They believe they have a right to only encounter situations and behaviors on screen that they would like to see surrounding them IRL. They have no empathy, no compassion, and zero comprehension of the fact that many, maybe most, people are significantly damaged by early life traumas that haunt them and drive their actions until and unless they somehow come to terms with their experiences. If not, they are doomed to repeat what was done to them.

The saddest, and most annoying thing is that these ASJWPCLGs think of themselves as caring, compassionate people. They are not. They are play-acting for their own appreciation. They suck.

I get so say all this because I am an American as well, but the opposite of what I describe above. So, this is a long-winded way of saying I learned to ignore MDL ratings because they are directly opposite to what they should be. At MDL, good quality = low ratings and vice versa.

I use MDL mainly as a resource to know about new and old shows I have not seen, for info about production, actors, and directors, and to make up my own custom lists, as well as to keep track of what I've seen and how I rated it. "Gray Shelter" is going to get a very high score from me, but I have no fantasy that my score will lift the MDL one, so I don't stress about it. However, on occasion I DO give a good show a higher score than I otherwise might, just to do my little bit. :D And I frequently hand out 1/10s to trash shows that get 9/10 ratings here, purely for my own satisfaction.

hmmm...
I comprehended the plot quite readily.
The editing was great. I liked that it kept me on my toes without needlessly confusing things.

What didn't you understand? Perhaps I can help.

Episode 2:

Wow, who expected THAT when Soo Hyuk took off his shirt? Holy god.
I live for the melancholic, depressive vibe of the opening credits animation.
This show is building beautifully, and has that Strongberry vibe which reaches my gut but which I don't have words for.

Am I supposed to be buying that rather frumpy woman who apparently kicked Yae Doon out of her apartment, as his GIRL FRIEND? No...just no. His auntie, his older sister maybe, but his...GF? No.

Could you be more specific about the mannerism you're talking about? To me, it's just the shape of his face, and he has a prominent jaw/chin line.

You specifically said this drama "justifies or glorifies" women's cheating....never mind, it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about and your hilariously bad ESL is not helping.

Thanks. You're not.

That might be why I didn't have a mental breakdown, weirdo.

Oh, you can tell a great deal about an author by what they write. Is that really news to you? And you left quite a few clues in that doozy of a comment above.

Yeah, the cringe over the top gangster couple in the first quarter of the film were just annoying. All I saw were two actors pretending and getting off on themselves pretending; didn't feel like real characters at all. I hate that kind of lame BS. Which is why I'm taking a break right now. I'll decide whether to finish this or not sometime later. Right now I'm thinking not. Eyeball martinis? Really?

Stupid.

So why don't you add one?

This show obviously didn't "justify" cheating to YOU, so what's your problem? That the rest of the audience isn't as intelligent and sophisticated as you and might be tempted by this drama into having an affair in their real life? Get over yourself.

Why do you feel the "cheating" was condoned?

Oh you poor, self-righteous, judgmental know-it-all. It must be hard for you to go through life as a perfect person, while all around you others are failing to live up to your own level of perfection. Gosh, the daily agony you must suffer.

But at least you got to leave this comment to let the rest of us know how flawlessly you live your life.

Curious: How old are you?

It's telling that you didn't write "IUD is pretty, TALENTED, and successful."

But yeah, I lay awake each night stressing over IUD's bad acting.

Another BS comment.

Nowhere above did I write or imply that everyone does NOT have the right to express their opinion here, now did i? Having made that clear, we thus render your first paragraph nonsensical, responding to things you imagined in your head but that I didn't express.

Your second paragraph is likewise befuddling, as no one here, least of all I, claimed we do NOT see the world from different "levels and different angles." No two people on Earth see the world exactly the same. It's odd though, that you go so far as to say we "have no points of contact." You have absolutely no way of knowing that; you're simply being melodramatic.

So that takes care of the second paragraph.

"And that's OK too," an attempted addendum to a pointless assertion, is itself pointless.

ONE out of five sentences in my reply to you assessed YOU, and that assessment was made based on your statements regarding the film. Are you saying it's not fair game to draw conclusions about the authors of comments based on the content of what they write? If so, well, you're wrong.

You're remarkably sensitive for someone as snotty and supercilious as you were in your know-it-all reply to the OP.