I don't know...this seems suspicious. Isn't it possible that a Korean actor who effectively portrays a character who is a drug addict just might have done so because they ARE a drug addict in real life?
Shouldn't the mud-slinging, yellow-journalism, rumor-mongering, boundary-free Korean press start digging into Ji Sung's personal life, from the time he was born, to determine if he ever took drugs, knew anyone who did take drugs, saw drugs, looked at drugs, read about drugs, dated someone who knew someone who took drugs, carried a trash bag with a used joint in it he didn't know about to the trash, or was in any other way within ten miles of weed, hash, coke, whatever, and if so, shouldn't Ji Sung be investigated to the full extent of the law, dragged in for interrogation, court appearances, and hounded daily in the press until we know for CERTAIN he never had anything whatsoever to do with a drug or anyone else who ever had anything to do with a drug? Just to be sure, you know?
And if he denies ever having used drugs, shouldn't the fact that he feels he has to deny it mean that he feels he has something to hide, and that too should be investigated? I mean come on, Korean Psycho Celebrity Suicide Machine people, do your job!
Meanwhile, let's be sure to ignore all the Koreans barfing SOJU in the alleyways of Seoul every night, because god knows Korea, with one of the highest rates of alcoholism in the world, has nothing to fear from booze.
I think you underestimate the Korean public on this, the general Korean public definitely has a very negative…
If what you say is true, and just because the government is on some whacko anti-drug kick doesn't mean the public is buying it, then I am OVER-estimating the Korean public, not underestimating them. In other words, I'm assuming them to be wiser and more sophisticated than they are.
Here's the most stupid of many stupid things about this anti-drug hysteria in Korea: ALCOHOL is a drug, yet abusive, binge drinking, on an almost nightly basis, is an accepted aspect of Korean business culture, and Korea's rate of alcohol abuse and consumption is among the highest in the world. Can you say SOJU, anyone?
So where, I ask, is the Korean government's crackdown on alcohol and binge drinking, which causes FAR more damage to Korean culture and economy on a daily basis than a year's worth of Korean pot-smoking could ever do? This old-fashioned, ignorant, anti-science idea that says booze is OK no matter what, but "drugs," which alcohol is one of, are nasty, bad, evil, and must be eradicated.
Why is it OK to vomit in the alley way on the way home most nights, but smoking a joint in your living room, mellowing out and going to bed gets you time in the slammer? It's insane, immature, and ridiculous.
Korea is 40 years behind Europe and the U.S. on this issue, and they need to get their shit together or companies like Netflix are going to take their production dollars elsewhere.
Nice movie to watch, some boring moments sometimes, the best parts were probably at the end with the big fights.…
I agree about the sex scenes between the queen/chief. They took on a very mechanical/stiff/carefully-choreographed look after the first two times. That is one of the few negatives in a film I rated 10/10.
The king did not love Hong. Don't confuse obsession and possession with Love. These are two poles. The king used…
lol What a black/white, Puritanical BS comment. There is a universe of different types, levels, and degrees of what we presume to call "love." YOU are not the end-all and be-all, final arbiter of what others feel for each other and whether their actions fit your definition of love.
But most of all, regarding this film, you are dead wrong. The King loved the Chief with all his heart, soul, and being...which is why he lost his mind with jealousy and rage when he was doubly betrayed. Many other people in his circumstances would have reacted differently, but this film isn't about them, it's about HIM.
First, a comment: They are not a "BL (BOYS love)" couple, they are an adult GAY couple. Second, a question: Is this a serious question? Third, another question: Why do you ask? What influence do you see the answer as having on the film as a whole? What would knowing who was top/bottom help you understand about the film's "complications?" Fourth, another comment: The answer to your question, if the activities of one scene are to be assumed to be representative of ALL their sexual interactions, is right there in the film.
I am willing to bet that if an accurate poll of the Korean public were taken, not just insane Netizens and self-righteous, Puritanical, psycho-fans, but normal, movie-going folks, you'd find that most KOREANS are sick and tired of being treated like children when this stupid shit comes up, who can't survive watching a film starring someone who has a drug problem in their personal life, or who dated someone, or who had an affair.
Korea, and in this case, Netflix, are bowing down to a tiny minority of the Korean populace and it's sickening. Korean online weirdos, magnified by the mainstream press, are what drive this shit and make it seem much more of an issue than it is.
As an American, and Netflix being an American company that financed and will distribute it worldwide, I am pissed that Netflix ALLOWED this guy to edit the film AT ALL, caving to the sickness of Korean Celeb Suicide Culture.
Refuse to believe what happened!I insist there was something darker involving a lot of levels in the entertainment,police…
I don't believe anything I read in the Korean press, even from so-called mainstream sources, who also ran with the BS that killed LSK. I haven't checked lately; is she being prosecuted for the blackmail and drugs?
Totally agree. A huge percentage of the MDL commentariat is extremely judgmental, self-righteous, and unforgiving,…
Well...it's true that in keeping with the "stupidity" of your comments, it's probably best you don't attempt to read more than two or three sentences at a time. Any more is likely to break your tiny mind.
I can't even begin to deal with LSK having been claimed by the Great Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. He left not quite four months ago, but oddly, it seems like it was much longer ago than that.
I wonder who the GKCS will grind to shreds next. It's doing its best to take out Yoo Ah In, but he seems to be hanging in there. He had better do so; if he were to take LSK's route, I think I'd lose my shit completely. I'm happy that Netflix is blowing off Korea's psycho-punitive culture and releasing "Goodbye Earth" here soon. Korea is a teeny portion of Netflix's global audience. I'm annoyed NF delayed GE's release and that they've done some pre-release "editing" to assuage the vicious Netizens.
It will be impossible to watch "Sleep" or critique it with any kind of objectivity. I recently watched "My Mister" for the first time, and about a third of the time he was on screen, I was distracted by thoughts of his absence and how he left.
Unknown became one of my favorite BLs very quickly. It touches all the emotions seeing a kid raising 2 kids ...and…
LOTS of MDLers talk about turning off their brains to enjoy shows like this. I apologize for attributing that to you, as that's not really what you said.
There ARE several very good BLs from Thailand but they were all made in 2020 or earlier.
Please consider not concerning yourself with whether or not you're "offending anybody" with your comments. Lots of MDLers also live for the opportunity to be offended. Just say what you think and don't apologize for it.
news writers such as lo_ve prefer scandalous koreaboo type of articles instead of reporting on real news unfortunately
Wow, you're a font of nastiness. Just the type who would aggressively defend their right to drive celebrities to despair and suicide with lies, innuendo, rumors, self-righteous judgementalism, and the viciousness born of envy we see every day on the Internet.
I get this hatred of the U.S. frequently here on MDL. It cuts no ice with me. I was born here, I didn't build the culture and government with my own two hands. There is much about my country I despise and trash daily in social media discussions.
But guess what? We're specifically talking about KOREA's bizarre, acid-toxic Celebrity Suicide Machine here, not whether or not you like Taylor Swift or Donald Trump. That machine operates with incredible efficiency, like no other in the world, putting dozens of good, talented people in early graves via suicide with shocking frequency.
Moreover, Korea as a whole has the highest suicide rate in the entire developed world, more than TWICE that of the U.S. If you don't think that's worthy of discussion, or that I don't get to take part in that chat until everything fucked up in the U.S. is fixed, then it's helpful that I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
All my fave films and series are Korean. I am a fan of a few K-Pop acts because much of its musical output touches me or makes me want to shake my booty. Thus, of course, I'm interested in why several artists whose careers I followed killed themselves, most lately LSK, arguably the best actor in Korea.
That you don't like my participation in the discourse regarding Korea's hateful fan culture and the suicide machine is of absolutely zero interest to me. You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what someone like you thinks.
We don't do that bullshit in the U.S. Entertainers who fuck up are always given a second, third, and fourth chance to start over. But most importantly, we don't viciously obsess over 20-year-old allegations of high school bullying and demand the accused be canceled.
So, be proud of your status as a cog in the Suicide Machine, potty mouth. I won't be a part of it.
"Even a broken watch is right twice a day" :)I don't think IU is great actress (btw, I didn't know her before…
Well, I'd argue that even a depressed, miserable person shows their thought processes taking place, even if just in their eyes. As to your assertion about her "expressive" eyes, I found them dull and expression-LESS. Guess we'll just have to disagree.
I will say that her performance in the last two episodes was quite good. Her speech to the board of directors about LSK, and the scene in which she went to identify Grandma's body, wrecked me.
Unknown became one of my favorite BLs very quickly. It touches all the emotions seeing a kid raising 2 kids ...and…
I deliberately did not insult anyone else for enjoying and watching this show and others like the ones you mentioned. I am not capable of turning off my brain, even when watching something "just for pure entertainment."
No one watches anything with their brains turned off. That assertion, a common one here on MDL, is silly. You are ALWAYS using your brain to process what you're watching; otherwise how would you be "entertained?" I love well-made comedies and slapstick and goofiness. Deep Night is not those things. There are a gazillion well-made films of that type on the Internet that do not insult my intelligence or cause my eyeballs to roll out of their sockets. With all those options out there, why would I waste my time on something like this?
Also, the more depth of understanding we get regarding each character, the more entertaining it is to see those characters interact as the series progresses. Thai BLs such as this one deal with TYPES, not individual characters, and it's lame.
The beginning of this show, with the BMOC strutting across campus as all the dumb girls squeal with wild abandon at his supposed physical perfection and glittering charisma, is something I've seen dozens of times before in earlier, much better Thai BLs.
The people who write and produce this kind of schlock, shamelessly regurgitating plots and people as though we have no memory of what we've seen before, are lazy, uninterested, and devoid of original thoughts. I don't support shows made by such hacks. Why would anyone?
There are hundreds of thousands of great, light-hearted, well-made movies and dramas on the Internet. I'm not so desperate to see gay men in BL situations that I'd lower myself to the level of Deep Night to get a fix. I prefer to wait for the few, much better quality, BLs out of Taiwan, Japan, and Korea, that are worth my time.
However, as I said, please do watch and enjoy this show. I won't try to stop you. :)
Dear god, no, not in a million years. Another TOOT!
Dropping 2/3 through the first episode because this Engineering Faculty/Host Club/Cirque du Soleil mish-mash abortion is not for me.
Just today, I finished watching the nearly-flawless, 10/10 Taiwanese BL "Unknown." It is an abomination that it and this cringe-fest will forever be categorized as of the same genre. It's like labeling double-chocolate silk ice cream and a bowl of s**t both as "brown stuff."
The amount of $$$ that goes into making these high-end, god-awful Thai BLs is depressing. It's shocking to think this stuff comes out of the same country that once made series like ITSAY/IPYTM, Love Sick, Make It Right, Together With Me and the like. The latter three had much smaller budgets, but schlock-free stories and great big hearts.
Shouldn't the mud-slinging, yellow-journalism, rumor-mongering, boundary-free Korean press start digging into Ji Sung's personal life, from the time he was born, to determine if he ever took drugs, knew anyone who did take drugs, saw drugs, looked at drugs, read about drugs, dated someone who knew someone who took drugs, carried a trash bag with a used joint in it he didn't know about to the trash, or was in any other way within ten miles of weed, hash, coke, whatever, and if so, shouldn't Ji Sung be investigated to the full extent of the law, dragged in for interrogation, court appearances, and hounded daily in the press until we know for CERTAIN he never had anything whatsoever to do with a drug or anyone else who ever had anything to do with a drug? Just to be sure, you know?
And if he denies ever having used drugs, shouldn't the fact that he feels he has to deny it mean that he feels he has something to hide, and that too should be investigated? I mean come on, Korean Psycho Celebrity Suicide Machine people, do your job!
Meanwhile, let's be sure to ignore all the Koreans barfing SOJU in the alleyways of Seoul every night, because god knows Korea, with one of the highest rates of alcoholism in the world, has nothing to fear from booze.
Here's the most stupid of many stupid things about this anti-drug hysteria in Korea: ALCOHOL is a drug, yet abusive, binge drinking, on an almost nightly basis, is an accepted aspect of Korean business culture, and Korea's rate of alcohol abuse and consumption is among the highest in the world. Can you say SOJU, anyone?
So where, I ask, is the Korean government's crackdown on alcohol and binge drinking, which causes FAR more damage to Korean culture and economy on a daily basis than a year's worth of Korean pot-smoking could ever do? This old-fashioned, ignorant, anti-science idea that says booze is OK no matter what, but "drugs," which alcohol is one of, are nasty, bad, evil, and must be eradicated.
Why is it OK to vomit in the alley way on the way home most nights, but smoking a joint in your living room, mellowing out and going to bed gets you time in the slammer? It's insane, immature, and ridiculous.
Korea is 40 years behind Europe and the U.S. on this issue, and they need to get their shit together or companies like Netflix are going to take their production dollars elsewhere.
The king was barely more than a boy when he met the Chief. Grow up.
There is a universe of different types, levels, and degrees of what we presume to call "love." YOU are not the end-all and be-all, final arbiter of what others feel for each other and whether their actions fit your definition of love.
But most of all, regarding this film, you are dead wrong. The King loved the Chief with all his heart, soul, and being...which is why he lost his mind with jealousy and rage when he was doubly betrayed. Many other people in his circumstances would have reacted differently, but this film isn't about them, it's about HIM.
Second, a question: Is this a serious question?
Third, another question: Why do you ask? What influence do you see the answer as having on the film as a whole? What would knowing who was top/bottom help you understand about the film's "complications?"
Fourth, another comment: The answer to your question, if the activities of one scene are to be assumed to be representative of ALL their sexual interactions, is right there in the film.
Korea, and in this case, Netflix, are bowing down to a tiny minority of the Korean populace and it's sickening. Korean online weirdos, magnified by the mainstream press, are what drive this shit and make it seem much more of an issue than it is.
As an American, and Netflix being an American company that financed and will distribute it worldwide, I am pissed that Netflix ALLOWED this guy to edit the film AT ALL, caving to the sickness of Korean Celeb Suicide Culture.
Hang in there Yoo, come to America!!!
I wonder who the GKCS will grind to shreds next. It's doing its best to take out Yoo Ah In, but he seems to be hanging in there. He had better do so; if he were to take LSK's route, I think I'd lose my shit completely. I'm happy that Netflix is blowing off Korea's psycho-punitive culture and releasing "Goodbye Earth" here soon. Korea is a teeny portion of Netflix's global audience. I'm annoyed NF delayed GE's release and that they've done some pre-release "editing" to assuage the vicious Netizens.
It will be impossible to watch "Sleep" or critique it with any kind of objectivity. I recently watched "My Mister" for the first time, and about a third of the time he was on screen, I was distracted by thoughts of his absence and how he left.
There ARE several very good BLs from Thailand but they were all made in 2020 or earlier.
Please consider not concerning yourself with whether or not you're "offending anybody" with your comments. Lots of MDLers also live for the opportunity to be offended. Just say what you think and don't apologize for it.
I get this hatred of the U.S. frequently here on MDL. It cuts no ice with me. I was born here, I didn't build the culture and government with my own two hands. There is much about my country I despise and trash daily in social media discussions.
But guess what? We're specifically talking about KOREA's bizarre, acid-toxic Celebrity Suicide Machine here, not whether or not you like Taylor Swift or Donald Trump. That machine operates with incredible efficiency, like no other in the world, putting dozens of good, talented people in early graves via suicide with shocking frequency.
Moreover, Korea as a whole has the highest suicide rate in the entire developed world, more than TWICE that of the U.S. If you don't think that's worthy of discussion, or that I don't get to take part in that chat until everything fucked up in the U.S. is fixed, then it's helpful that I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
All my fave films and series are Korean. I am a fan of a few K-Pop acts because much of its musical output touches me or makes me want to shake my booty. Thus, of course, I'm interested in why several artists whose careers I followed killed themselves, most lately LSK, arguably the best actor in Korea.
That you don't like my participation in the discourse regarding Korea's hateful fan culture and the suicide machine is of absolutely zero interest to me. You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what someone like you thinks.
We don't do that bullshit in the U.S. Entertainers who fuck up are always given a second, third, and fourth chance to start over. But most importantly, we don't viciously obsess over 20-year-old allegations of high school bullying and demand the accused be canceled.
So, be proud of your status as a cog in the Suicide Machine, potty mouth. I won't be a part of it.
I will say that her performance in the last two episodes was quite good. Her speech to the board of directors about LSK, and the scene in which she went to identify Grandma's body, wrecked me.
No one watches anything with their brains turned off. That assertion, a common one here on MDL, is silly. You are ALWAYS using your brain to process what you're watching; otherwise how would you be "entertained?" I love well-made comedies and slapstick and goofiness. Deep Night is not those things. There are a gazillion well-made films of that type on the Internet that do not insult my intelligence or cause my eyeballs to roll out of their sockets. With all those options out there, why would I waste my time on something like this?
Also, the more depth of understanding we get regarding each character, the more entertaining it is to see those characters interact as the series progresses. Thai BLs such as this one deal with TYPES, not individual characters, and it's lame.
The beginning of this show, with the BMOC strutting across campus as all the dumb girls squeal with wild abandon at his supposed physical perfection and glittering charisma, is something I've seen dozens of times before in earlier, much better Thai BLs.
The people who write and produce this kind of schlock, shamelessly regurgitating plots and people as though we have no memory of what we've seen before, are lazy, uninterested, and devoid of original thoughts. I don't support shows made by such hacks. Why would anyone?
There are hundreds of thousands of great, light-hearted, well-made movies and dramas on the Internet. I'm not so desperate to see gay men in BL situations that I'd lower myself to the level of Deep Night to get a fix. I prefer to wait for the few, much better quality, BLs out of Taiwan, Japan, and Korea, that are worth my time.
However, as I said, please do watch and enjoy this show. I won't try to stop you. :)
Dropping 2/3 through the first episode because this Engineering Faculty/Host Club/Cirque du Soleil mish-mash abortion is not for me.
Just today, I finished watching the nearly-flawless, 10/10 Taiwanese BL "Unknown." It is an abomination that it and this cringe-fest will forever be categorized as of the same genre. It's like labeling double-chocolate silk ice cream and a bowl of s**t both as "brown stuff."
The amount of $$$ that goes into making these high-end, god-awful Thai BLs is depressing.
It's shocking to think this stuff comes out of the same country that once made series like ITSAY/IPYTM, Love Sick, Make It Right, Together With Me and the like. The latter three had much smaller budgets, but schlock-free stories and great big hearts.
Dropped. 1/10
Maybe you should try a throuple with two people you're not interested in romantically. Then you might actually know what you're talking about.