I think the friend DID tell Ilwoo about the sex thing. That's why Ilwoo went nuts and tried to break through the…
Thank you very much! A good excuse to watch again one day soon. :D When you say "after the teacher confessed," do you mean when he did so obliquely during that prison visit late in the film? BTW, at that point, it seems to me the teacher was going bonkers due to the guilt tugging at him since he killed the other twin.
Do you even know that there are aroace people? Sex MAY be ONE OF THE most powerful ways to express love, but it's…
Oh, aren't you the preachy, fire-breathing Church Lady? Thanks for showing up to make my point for me. Sure, there are a few "aroace" folks around...approximately .7 to 1% of the population. Is there something in this plot or interaction between the characters that gave any indication that either half of the ML is "aroace?" No. No, there isn't.
So now we know this series is not about "aroace" people, so what the hell are you babbling about? Yamato was dying to get Kakeru in the sack the entire show, but as I said, the director didn't have the guts to follow through.
For 99.9+% of the population, sex IS the most powerful TACTILE (or did you miss that word in my comment in your slobbering haste to be the first SJW to respond with such nonsense?) means of expressing affection and passion. Your hysteria will never change that, thank goodness.
Regarding your concern for the actor's delicate age, there is nothing illegal or immoral or out of line for a 17-year-old actor to ACT as if he is about to, or just did, have sex. You don't have to be 18 to lay under the covers with your shirt off so it looks as though you had sex, which is what most BL "sex scenes" amount to.
As I clearly stated, "I don't need explicit sex scenes, I have porn for that, but I want an indication that things got physical, as humans do." To which you so wisely replied, "go and watch your damn porn which must be...blah blah blah..." I repeat, "I DON'T NEED EXPLICIT SEX SCENES."But once again, spittle got in your eyes and prevented you from being able to read.
I WILL go watch my beloved porn, just as almost every other American male does when I choose to, but thanks for reminding me to do that even though I already said I would.
I find your ignorant outrage entertaining, but I have to wonder where the anger comes from. Are YOU "aroace" and pissed off about it? Go watch some shows about aroace people and maybe you'll feel better. This show isn't about those folks.
Finally, there are no more "aroace" people in the world than there ever were, but it has nevertheless become fashionable and OK to discuss it publicly in the last few years. This is fine, but fads come and go, yet nothing will make the percentage of the population who identifies within that classification any larger than it would be by nature. Part of the agenda of people like you is to make it seem that the percentage of "aroaces" is around 50% rather than .7%. I'm sorry to inform you it won't work.
This was another japanese gem, I found myself feeling emotional at some scenes because of its pureness and innocence…
Wow, I SO feel you. That is, in a nutshell, why BLs resonated so powerfully with me when I discovered them two and a half years ago. I am old enough to be these characters' dad, yet I felt somehow I was watching what might have taken place for me if I hadn't been living in a homophobic world at the time.
I welled up at least five times during this last episode, and mostly it wasn't because of any specific line of dialogue; it was because these two actors have a powerful connection and they excel at evoking those emotions you described so that we can feel it as viewers. I was very moved.
This show, especially in this last episode, got me in the gut despite the cliches, tropes, and generally unoriginal plotting. There were a lot of individually touching and funny bits of dialogue throughout, however. It's another J-BL where the charisma, connection, and good acting of the leads overcomes the aforementioned clunkiness.
Also, there were definitely moments and vibes of physical attraction and burgeoning sexual desire that led...nowhere. It's sort of important to know whether or not they did the deed after the hair-drying bit. And if not, why not? Any two normal teens would definitely have gone for it. This is where the fluff of this show smothered the heat of this show, which was definitely there. The director chickened out.
I know the MDL prude crowd loves this kind of unrealistic storytelling, but teenage boys in love don't float around on pink clouds of cotton candy, crocheting sweaters for each other. And if they did, they would definitely take time out to do the deed a couple times a day. Sex is the most powerful, tactile means of expressing one's love. Hearts entwined lead to bodies entwined. I wish there weren't so many western BL fans here who see sex as dirty and unmentionable. I don't need explicit sex scenes, I have porn for that, but I want an indication that things got physical, as humans do.
It's because of the show's overarching clunk, fluff, and false chastity that I'm not rating is as highly as I otherwise would have.
ummm...in reality, there are thousands of indie movies out there featuring zero characters who are prostitutes. Watch them and you won't be sick anymore. :)
I think that it's a low budget drama and that they couldn't do two sets of wings and the first ones can't be folded.…
Exactly. They could have used a lot of different methods to create a hump under his hoodie. It wouldn't be difficult to figure that out. They have shown the wings droop, and also rise, but you're probably right that they can't be folded all the way together in the back.
It's such a glaring omission, I can't believe the director ignored it.
How did Jackson Wang introduce you to Park Jinyoung?
Yes, the 2017 film "A Stray Goat," is excellent, as is his acting in it. That's the only other film in which he's had a lead role. He's done quite a few K-dramas, but I don't watch dramas in general.
I think the friend DID tell Ilwoo about the sex thing. That's why Ilwoo went nuts and tried to break through the…
Thanks a lot for the tip. I'll go back and watch the scene you mention. It's a lot to ask of the viewer to believe that through all the time he spent with Ilwoo at the detention center, and even after they began to cooperate with each other, he wouldn't have told Ilwoo what he knew.
I think the friend DID tell Ilwoo about the sex thing. That's why Ilwoo went nuts and tried to break through the…
Well, you may be right, but trying to tear down the bars between him and the counselor seems like a strong reaction based on just a hunch. Maybe you can help me with something: How was the friend so sure it was the counselor who was banging the other twin? It seems like he said he saw it, but there was never a scene like that in the film, and I still don't feel like I understand that part of it.
And if he knew it was the counselor, then how could he be so calm and collected in his presence in the prison?
How did Jackson Wang introduce you to Park Jinyoung?
oh...I am a big fan of Jonghyun and Jonghyun-era SHINee. I've heard of GOT7 and Jackson Wang, but haven't followed their work. Somehow I missed in Jinyoung's bio that he had been in GOT7. He is a tremendous actor, not just some talentless pretty boy idol an agency is trying to promote, as so often show up in K-BLs.
Mainly an immensely sad demonstration of what happens when people skip appointments with their therapists.
This was my third watch of this film. I've had it on my Top 30 Gay-Themed Feature Films list for two years. However, each time I watch it I like it less. During this watch, I mostly thought, "what the hell was I thinking?"
This time around, I came to dislike the protagonist more than before too. A glutton for punishment, he is attracted to men he ultimately can't have. I'd guess it's because he doesn't think he deserves better. Despite his unflappable exterior and loads of friends, he doesn't seem to like himself much. The manner in which he cut the first dude off without a word when the inevitable happened, pissed me off. At the end, it seems that was the one he truly loved.
Anyway...I like the way the film tells its story, its choices in cinematography, direction and style. However, every character puts me off so I had no one to root for.
Long story short, I'm glad I've seen this enough times to finally notice it's a pretentious mess. I'll lower my rating and take it off my list.
Park Jin Young is phenomenal in this role. I had no inkling of the other role he was playing until I looked at the cast list above after I watched the movie; that's how good he is in this part. A fave among young Korean actors.
Kim Young Min is likewise indispensable here as you know what. I have now seen him in enough films to know he is extremely versatile as an actor, and not afraid to take on distasteful roles along with sympathetic ones. One of my fave, established Korean actors.
When you say "after the teacher confessed," do you mean when he did so obliquely during that prison visit late in the film? BTW, at that point, it seems to me the teacher was going bonkers due to the guilt tugging at him since he killed the other twin.
So now we know this series is not about "aroace" people, so what the hell are you babbling about? Yamato was dying to get Kakeru in the sack the entire show, but as I said, the director didn't have the guts to follow through.
For 99.9+% of the population, sex IS the most powerful TACTILE (or did you miss that word in my comment in your slobbering haste to be the first SJW to respond with such nonsense?) means of expressing affection and passion. Your hysteria will never change that, thank goodness.
Regarding your concern for the actor's delicate age, there is nothing illegal or immoral or out of line for a 17-year-old actor to ACT as if he is about to, or just did, have sex. You don't have to be 18 to lay under the covers with your shirt off so it looks as though you had sex, which is what most BL "sex scenes" amount to.
As I clearly stated, "I don't need explicit sex scenes, I have porn for that, but I want an indication that things got physical, as humans do." To which you so wisely replied, "go and watch your damn porn which must be...blah blah blah..." I repeat, "I DON'T NEED EXPLICIT SEX SCENES."But once again, spittle got in your eyes and prevented you from being able to read.
I WILL go watch my beloved porn, just as almost every other American male does when I choose to, but thanks for reminding me to do that even though I already said I would.
I find your ignorant outrage entertaining, but I have to wonder where the anger comes from. Are YOU "aroace" and pissed off about it? Go watch some shows about aroace people and maybe you'll feel better. This show isn't about those folks.
Finally, there are no more "aroace" people in the world than there ever were, but it has nevertheless become fashionable and OK to discuss it publicly in the last few years. This is fine, but fads come and go, yet nothing will make the percentage of the population who identifies within that classification any larger than it would be by nature. Part of the agenda of people like you is to make it seem that the percentage of "aroaces" is around 50% rather than .7%. I'm sorry to inform you it won't work.
I welled up at least five times during this last episode, and mostly it wasn't because of any specific line of dialogue; it was because these two actors have a powerful connection and they excel at evoking those emotions you described so that we can feel it as viewers. I was very moved.
Also, there were definitely moments and vibes of physical attraction and burgeoning sexual desire that led...nowhere. It's sort of important to know whether or not they did the deed after the hair-drying bit. And if not, why not? Any two normal teens would definitely have gone for it. This is where the fluff of this show smothered the heat of this show, which was definitely there. The director chickened out.
I know the MDL prude crowd loves this kind of unrealistic storytelling, but teenage boys in love don't float around on pink clouds of cotton candy, crocheting sweaters for each other. And if they did, they would definitely take time out to do the deed a couple times a day. Sex is the most powerful, tactile means of expressing one's love. Hearts entwined lead to bodies entwined. I wish there weren't so many western BL fans here who see sex as dirty and unmentionable. I don't need explicit sex scenes, I have porn for that, but I want an indication that things got physical, as humans do.
It's because of the show's overarching clunk, fluff, and false chastity that I'm not rating is as highly as I otherwise would have.
7.5/10 but highly recommended.
Nakano Taiga should be a star. His performance here is brilliant. The stifling repression he forced upon himself made me ache to the bones at times.
Atsuhika and Takeda should hook up and form a family with Suzu.
Highly recommended.
9/10
It's such a glaring omission, I can't believe the director ignored it.
And if he knew it was the counselor, then how could he be so calm and collected in his presence in the prison?
This was my third watch of this film. I've had it on my Top 30 Gay-Themed Feature Films list for two years. However, each time I watch it I like it less. During this watch, I mostly thought, "what the hell was I thinking?"
This time around, I came to dislike the protagonist more than before too. A glutton for punishment, he is attracted to men he ultimately can't have. I'd guess it's because he doesn't think he deserves better. Despite his unflappable exterior and loads of friends, he doesn't seem to like himself much. The manner in which he cut the first dude off without a word when the inevitable happened, pissed me off. At the end, it seems that was the one he truly loved.
Anyway...I like the way the film tells its story, its choices in cinematography, direction and style. However, every character puts me off so I had no one to root for.
Long story short, I'm glad I've seen this enough times to finally notice it's a pretentious mess. I'll lower my rating and take it off my list.
6/10
Kim Young Min is likewise indispensable here as you know what. I have now seen him in enough films to know he is extremely versatile as an actor, and not afraid to take on distasteful roles along with sympathetic ones. One of my fave, established Korean actors.