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"Find herself and actually being part of the team instead of the person always observing and obsessing over every look or action between yuuki and Shyuuhei ( the scene were she changes sits so she could watch them)" thats an interesting interpretation because i did not take it that way. The scene closely follows when they are talking about the equalateral triangle and so i interpreted it as Misaki trying to break up her and yuuki as a unit to give more space for the three of them as individuals. Kind of like breaking up heirchical polyamory dynamics.

"To me the show succeded in showing me people who came to realise love can be attraction, romantic, platonic, intellectual and just comfort and this is what they are going towards..." 💕💕💕 yeah i really appreciated that. I think maybe the idea didnt get across to everyone but many people seem to be getting the idea of this now

"The show has shown us that they have move forward from being confused about who they are to actually wanting to find out about who they are together, before they were not in a relationship but struggling to get to a relationship and now that they are about to get into it the show ended on us and people are confused." While i cant say im confused i am disappointed they stpped right when it started getting good. There is so much about to happen that now doesnt exist T_T

Raise de wa Chanto Shimasu!

Ayo~ Any updates on this? Will Gaga stream it or is it going to be at a film festival we can watch ?

MY BABY BOY JI HYUN BETTER BE OKAY

Its possible that Misaki likes Maki romantically, but not sexually. In the same way that Misaki's husband likes Misaki romantically but not sexually. This would make more sense if the characterization, directing, and skinship was better, but it makes more sense if you are familiar with queerplatonic relationships and relationship anarchy.

To help explain a bit more, I have a friend who is asexual. They have many partners, two of whom they are (not legally) married to. (I went to their wedding it was beautiful). My friend loves both of their partners (and others) very much, and their partners love them. Just because my friend doesn't sexually desire their partners does not mean they should not marry their partners, nor seek out relationships with other people. Sex does not equal love. Sex also is not the only form of desire.

Please let me know if you want me to explain more.

WOW they put relationship anarchy on a tv show?!!!?! okay i take back all the bad things I said about this show. I respect them now. BRUH I can't believe I live in a world where relationship anarchy is on a tv show i am so blessed right now. beautiful. BEAUTIFUL omg such bliss RELATIONSHIP ANARCHY?! like this is such a difficult form of ENM to communicate to people and then they put it on a show. Like everyone gets triads, everyone gets hierarchical polyamory, like everyone can understand swinging to some extent even if they don't agree with it but its so fucking hard to get people to understand what relationship anarchy is AND THEN THEY DID ITTTTTTT bruh i am so happy right now i dont care I DO NOT CARE that the characterization was weak, or that the skinship was fucking horrible, BRUH RELATIONSHIP ANARCHY!!?!? FUCK OFF NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYY

I hope this launched safely! Sending good thoughts to the team behind this! Super jealous of everyone who can watch it already >_< Hoping our time with the special edit and movie comes soon. Really nice to see how far this series has come after all the work they put into making it ^_^

LOOOOOOOL faked out

Does anyone know where it will be available to watch when it releases?

Link to watch here, but no English subs yet: https://youtu.be/k13HX5oDLRM

on viki the next two episodes have their release time listed. It's the grey number under the thumbnail

It already exists in western media though! For example, the YA book Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao features a queer relationship between three people. If you need more examples, there's the polyamorous character page on wikipedia (though it is far from being a total list, I can name a few show and webcomics that are missing).

Is there sometimes some infighting about it in queer circles? sure I'll give you that much, but there's also a lot of support. The magazine "them." for example is queer focused and also features articles about non-monogamy on occasion. Also these kinds of relationships predate YouTube and Tiktok. Take the "free love" movement of the 60s for example.

Thanks for coming to it with an open mind! A lot of people start learning more about non-monogamy by reading The Ethical Slut. I haven't given it a go yet, but for some people it's helpful.

on gagaoolala the first five episodes are

hmm ok i think i get what ur saying. so you would have liked it better if Yuuki was portrayed as more of a villain? I'm guessing if he had like a redemption arch that would have made the throuple better for you? And if there was stronger tension and resolution between Misaki accepting her husband's relationship?

I mean sure its superficial but i wouldnt call it queerbaiting. Not everything that is both bad and queer is queerbaiting. To me thats just your classic poor characterization for the sake of furthering the plot. The key point of queerbaiting is "we are hiding the queerness of the story to pander to a homophobic audience" which this show does not do. At least thats my interpretation. I feel like you have some kind of idea that isnt being addressed though? What are your thoughts on the show? Is it that something is bothering you about it in particular?

we have come so far :')

This was so cute ^_^ really enjoyed watching this. I had so many butterflies! Gi Tae's honest personality and Lee Wan's unexpected playfulness was sooooo fun to watch. Really great chemistry between the leads. Also loved the way the story built on its themes. Just a fun drama ^_^ Thanks to the team for their hard work!!

oh good im glad i wasnt the only one that felt weird about that. Like maybe she's trying to show "Hey I'm super okay with this and I'll prove it to you" kind of vibe without really considering what are his thoughts on it. I'm curious if that will end up being a source of conflict in the show.

Gagaoolala

i totally get what u mean and honestly thats a really interesting way to frame it.

yeah u have a fair point that cheating is already a really popular trope in jdramas. i usually avoid cheating-themed shows unless theres any chance for polyamory, so maybe thats why I didn't consider that, but its a good point.

could it be queerbaiting? i would not consider it queerbaiting. to me queerbaiting is when writers take advantage of an audience thats interested in queer content, and then never confirms or denies queerness within the context of the story because they want to pander to a homophobic audience. (honestly my thoughts on queerbaiting itself is up in the air right now after reading an interesting essay about it last month but that's besides the point). Shyuuhei is very clearly pansexual and Yuuki is probably panromantic gay. This is not ambiguous to the audience at all, so nope not queerbaiting imho