As suspected, Charn was careening so hard towards his power and money dreams because he's absolutely terrified - of changing, of the fact that he wants to change, of feeling anything at all. But it's too late for him. He's been steadily breaking pretty much since Tinn barged into his life, and now I don't think there's any putting that old soft hearted person back in the box. Which doesn't mean he won't still have a streak of ruthlessness to him, of course - I just think it'll be softened.
And put me in facepaint and call me a clown, but I don't believe for a second he's doing anything horribly nefarious by sending Thatthep that photo. Oh yes, the music wants me to think so for sure, and so does the preview, but there's just something about the whole thing that makes me think Charn's pulling some self-sacrificial move here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to say I'd be disappointed if he backslid that much after his breakdown this ep, and I just can't see it happening. I think he's sticking his neck out so Thatthep focuses on him and not Tinn and Tinn's family. I also think that that wild night he was talking about with Rose was the night he participated in the burning of the village, and the arm around his waist was Thatthep's.
Speaking of, that flashback was so painful and makes so much sense, really. I think we all knew that Charn's mother had been killed and that's why he's steadily been carving out the part of himself that he thinks got her killed - the idealist, the believer in justice and fairness and doing what is right. But also he immediately went and did the most awful thing he could think of - not only getting his own back against the people who hurt him, but routing the villagers and chasing them out of their homes, destroying the very people he'd sworn to help. It's like he decided to do the worst thing possible so nothing he did after would matter as much. He was trying to burn away his old self as much as he was the village.
He's just so fascinating to me. I love him. Awfulness and all. I don't think he'll ever be truly *good*, but that's fine. I also very much worry that either he or Tinn won't make it out of this, and while I do think that if Charn dies Tinn will eventually be okay, I do not think the reverse holds true.
And okay, fine. FINE. They finally got me with Thaenthai. The way he immediately flipped to utter sweetheart the second he was away from his awful father...okay yes I finally believe there's a good guy in there. And I'm finally seeing some reciprocation of Thee's obvious feelings, which seems fast but also, maybe he's always loved him but again, oppressive household where he has to act a certain way. And now dad is going to figure out that if he hurts Thee it will hurt Thaenthai more than if he just took his ire out on him as usual...I wish we'd gotten this dynamic sooner, honestly.
But at this point I'm past thinking that there's any way to get rid of Thatthep short of death. Tinn won't get the justice of a prison cell, not from someone that powerful. No way in hell.
I think you're basing too much off of too little - we're on ep 2. I actually think that Ray and Sand are gonna…
Huh? I wasn't replying to you but to the guy you replied to.
And also I never claimed it wasn't my opinion. Please don't be offended I mean no offense. I agree that they heavily marketed SandRay anyway - F & K sell right now and it seems pretty clear that they are gonna be the most dramatic of the three couples - it's been said over and over again that they spend a lot of time fighting and crying, lol. I'd market it that way too, we want people to watch! :D
Have you not said you're mostly here for forcebook or was that someone else?
I think it's entirely normal for people to have their favorites, the problem is when it gets nasty when those favorites aren't getting screentime or aren't endgame, etc
Personally I am not watching for any one ship even though I WILL talk about SandTop at any and every opportunity, lol. I have said before and will say again that I will be very surprised if any of the OG ships wind up together.
I will confess that I am a little disappointed that they didn't bring in another GMMTV BL Boy (TM) for Boston to sleep with, though.
I feel like Mew to be honest. He has confidence in himself and thinks he can handle himself when it comes to dating,…
Yeah that's pretty much where I am with Mew. He thinks he knows how the game is played and to a point, he does. But he's forgetting that feelings are messy and illogical and that's gonna trip him up.
I have a feeling he's gonna go as toxic as the rest of them fast. And probably screw up way more than anyone else so far (he's gonna take a wrecking ball to everything and I am...well maybe not ready but definitely seated and waiting, lol)
I don't care much for Top and Maw; I don't understand why they're considered the primary couple. For me, the best…
I think you're basing too much off of too little - we're on ep 2.
I actually think that Ray and Sand are gonna be exactly like a struck match - quick to start and quick to die out. I feel like Top and Mew are just getting started, and that they're gonna come in swinging once their drama really gets going. And Nick and Boston will be dragged into that more than the other two.
Okay this ep was actually even better than the first one? The first one had a couple stilted moments (and no I'm not talking about the sex scenes don't come at me), but this one flowed from start to finish.
Still can't get behind Ray and Sand though, sorry. Ray's almost certainly going to stay detached due to insulation from his crush on Mew while Sand is gonna fall head over heels and I'm still worried it'll turn him into a doormat who lets Ray stomp on him (and not in the sexy way). Not here for it. I adore Khao but I still don't like Ray. *shrugs*
LOVE Sand though. He's so confident and lovely and I really don't want to see him lose that but well, beep boop.
Really liking Top and Mew still, though. I think Mew thinks he knows what he's doing and he's going to find out soon enough that when it comes to messy things like feelings he really, really doesn't. Can't wait for him to snap later. Of course, the snapping would be no fun without the falling so I'm all for him developing soft feelings.
Boston and Nick...still not sure about those two, tbh. I expect Nick might be the one to cause the real drama. I'd be into it. My best guess is he's gonna be the one to blow the whole Top and Boston thing wide open. Carnage my friends. Pure carnage.
This was a very strong first ep. I really enjoyed it.
Perth and Chimon were inspired casting choices, tbh. I don't know how they'll do for romantic chemistry but both of them are such strong actors I genuinely don't know who else could have stood against them for something like this.
And I really like how unlikeable they're letting Kang be. He's truly awful and that's great. I always love a good character arc and I'm really hoping we get one from him.
I still maintain that Book's stiltedness is on purpose. I suppose I will eat crow if it turns out I'm wrong, but right now I'm just side eyeing Mew *hard* lol.
And I would take the warning further - the chances that we're getting an ending with all these couples paired up and happy (if any) is slim. Very slim. Everyone involved has repeatedly said not to expect a happy ending. If you don't like mess, might be good to stay away.
For those of us who do, we are going to have fun. :D
Choose to be single = leave me alone? Otherwise, white and green will be quite similar.
Well, no one said that Sand wants an exclusive relationship. :D
I hope he's just as big of a slut as the rest of them honestly.
I think the simplest answer is best and that everyone is overthinking it. Green is go, please hit on me (as Sand said). White means prefer to be single (but Top doesn't care because he's Top). Red means in a relationship (unless you can score a threeway with your boyfriend and the hot guy you just met).
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As suspected, Charn was careening so hard towards his power and money dreams because he's absolutely terrified - of changing, of the fact that he wants to change, of feeling anything at all. But it's too late for him. He's been steadily breaking pretty much since Tinn barged into his life, and now I don't think there's any putting that old soft hearted person back in the box. Which doesn't mean he won't still have a streak of ruthlessness to him, of course - I just think it'll be softened.
And put me in facepaint and call me a clown, but I don't believe for a second he's doing anything horribly nefarious by sending Thatthep that photo. Oh yes, the music wants me to think so for sure, and so does the preview, but there's just something about the whole thing that makes me think Charn's pulling some self-sacrificial move here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to say I'd be disappointed if he backslid that much after his breakdown this ep, and I just can't see it happening. I think he's sticking his neck out so Thatthep focuses on him and not Tinn and Tinn's family. I also think that that wild night he was talking about with Rose was the night he participated in the burning of the village, and the arm around his waist was Thatthep's.
Speaking of, that flashback was so painful and makes so much sense, really. I think we all knew that Charn's mother had been killed and that's why he's steadily been carving out the part of himself that he thinks got her killed - the idealist, the believer in justice and fairness and doing what is right. But also he immediately went and did the most awful thing he could think of - not only getting his own back against the people who hurt him, but routing the villagers and chasing them out of their homes, destroying the very people he'd sworn to help. It's like he decided to do the worst thing possible so nothing he did after would matter as much. He was trying to burn away his old self as much as he was the village.
He's just so fascinating to me. I love him. Awfulness and all. I don't think he'll ever be truly *good*, but that's fine. I also very much worry that either he or Tinn won't make it out of this, and while I do think that if Charn dies Tinn will eventually be okay, I do not think the reverse holds true.
And okay, fine. FINE. They finally got me with Thaenthai. The way he immediately flipped to utter sweetheart the second he was away from his awful father...okay yes I finally believe there's a good guy in there. And I'm finally seeing some reciprocation of Thee's obvious feelings, which seems fast but also, maybe he's always loved him but again, oppressive household where he has to act a certain way. And now dad is going to figure out that if he hurts Thee it will hurt Thaenthai more than if he just took his ire out on him as usual...I wish we'd gotten this dynamic sooner, honestly.
But at this point I'm past thinking that there's any way to get rid of Thatthep short of death. Tinn won't get the justice of a prison cell, not from someone that powerful. No way in hell.
Is it Saturday yet?
And also I never claimed it wasn't my opinion. Please don't be offended I mean no offense. I agree that they heavily marketed SandRay anyway - F & K sell right now and it seems pretty clear that they are gonna be the most dramatic of the three couples - it's been said over and over again that they spend a lot of time fighting and crying, lol. I'd market it that way too, we want people to watch! :D
I think it's entirely normal for people to have their favorites, the problem is when it gets nasty when those favorites aren't getting screentime or aren't endgame, etc
Personally I am not watching for any one ship even though I WILL talk about SandTop at any and every opportunity, lol. I have said before and will say again that I will be very surprised if any of the OG ships wind up together.
I will confess that I am a little disappointed that they didn't bring in another GMMTV BL Boy (TM) for Boston to sleep with, though.
I have a feeling he's gonna go as toxic as the rest of them fast. And probably screw up way more than anyone else so far (he's gonna take a wrecking ball to everything and I am...well maybe not ready but definitely seated and waiting, lol)
I actually think that Ray and Sand are gonna be exactly like a struck match - quick to start and quick to die out. I feel like Top and Mew are just getting started, and that they're gonna come in swinging once their drama really gets going. And Nick and Boston will be dragged into that more than the other two.
Still can't get behind Ray and Sand though, sorry. Ray's almost certainly going to stay detached due to insulation from his crush on Mew while Sand is gonna fall head over heels and I'm still worried it'll turn him into a doormat who lets Ray stomp on him (and not in the sexy way). Not here for it. I adore Khao but I still don't like Ray. *shrugs*
LOVE Sand though. He's so confident and lovely and I really don't want to see him lose that but well, beep boop.
Really liking Top and Mew still, though. I think Mew thinks he knows what he's doing and he's going to find out soon enough that when it comes to messy things like feelings he really, really doesn't. Can't wait for him to snap later. Of course, the snapping would be no fun without the falling so I'm all for him developing soft feelings.
Boston and Nick...still not sure about those two, tbh. I expect Nick might be the one to cause the real drama. I'd be into it. My best guess is he's gonna be the one to blow the whole Top and Boston thing wide open. Carnage my friends. Pure carnage.
I can't wait.
Firmly believe he's playing us, or everyone else, or both.
Perth and Chimon were inspired casting choices, tbh. I don't know how they'll do for romantic chemistry but both of them are such strong actors I genuinely don't know who else could have stood against them for something like this.
And I really like how unlikeable they're letting Kang be. He's truly awful and that's great. I always love a good character arc and I'm really hoping we get one from him.
And I would take the warning further - the chances that we're getting an ending with all these couples paired up and happy (if any) is slim. Very slim. Everyone involved has repeatedly said not to expect a happy ending. If you don't like mess, might be good to stay away.
For those of us who do, we are going to have fun. :D
I hope he's just as big of a slut as the rest of them honestly.
I think the simplest answer is best and that everyone is overthinking it. Green is go, please hit on me (as Sand said). White means prefer to be single (but Top doesn't care because he's Top). Red means in a relationship (unless you can score a threeway with your boyfriend and the hot guy you just met).