No. I like Tu as a person, but it's clear that her skills next to actually good actors (unlike in F4) simply don't…
"Kongkwang feels like a completely flat character without any depth - what exactly do we know about her apart from the fact that she likes Phukao? Genuinely asking. What do we know about her because I can't come up with a single thing." <<< It's fair to criticize Tu for a poor performance but it's not fair to blame her for a shittily written character. If you don't know anything about Kongkwan it's because of bad writing. We don't know anything about Lak or their mother either except they all suffer a lot and martyr themselves. I don't know what the director was thinking when she wrote those women.
By contrast, Zo and Nink are great and Phukhao's mother and her girlfriend are at least complex and interesting. Yes it's helped by good performances but it's also there in the script. Kongkwan and the women in her family are written to be symbols, not people.
Haven't started this drama yet, is it worth starting? however would appreciate if anyone could recommend me some…
It started out strong but went off the rails once the romance kicked in because it makes absolutely no sense. It's also very melodramatic even by lakorn standards. So even though there's a lot I like about the drama, on the whole I can't recommend it.
Some Thai dramas I enjoyed: F4 Thailand, Not Me, Midnight Motel, Bad Buddy, The Gifted, The Shipper. If you don't mind 18+ rating with explicit scenes, KinnPorsche is a crack infused fever dream with great production values.
Listen, I loved Tu in F4 and I'm sure a big part of her performance or lack thereof is because of the script.…
You're making good points and I agree with you that Tu's lack of experience is showing. On top of that, I think she and Ohm were both poorly directed because IMO Ohm is overacting in a lot of scenes and I know he's a good actor from other dramas I've seen him in. I'm not sure what the writer/director is trying to accomplish with these characters but it's not working.
I see people blaming Tu for how lackluster Kongkwan is as a character but it's not her fault. It's the writing. There's nothing to the character. She has no personality, hopes, dreams, aspirations, she's just long-suffering and that's it. There's nothing for Tu to latch onto. Same for Luk's character, how did she fall into a relationship with a student, why did she not see any hopes for her future, what was she missing in her upbringing that led her to making such a terrible mistake? Who knows, it's not in the writing. Compare how they are written to Mai, Plu, Phukhao and even Zo who are all complex characters. It's like the sisters exist to suffer and be martyred and that's it.
(on another note, who knew Phukhao's mother would be 100% right about how wrong it was for Luk to get involved with Mai but it was entirely predictable that she would screw up handling it by not telling her husband or Luk's family)
Another problem I had with eps 9 & 10 is how Mai's mother came out of nowhere to be the main supervillain. We didn't get to know her in earlier episodes so it's hard to care that she's turning out to be so important to Mai's death and the problems with Kongkwan's parents. I will say tho that Pluem's scenes with the actress playing his mother were so good, if those scenes worked at all it's because of the incredible performance he's been giving throughout the story.
It's disappointing how this is turning out because I was in love with the drama at first but now it's just a slog. I'll finish it but I can't recommend it.
This was really fun! Yes plot holes but nothing that bothered me. Mond was the best out of the main cast, he made…
Peerapat was on medication for some unspecified illness. He took the meds the night Mote made his pitch and he fell to the floor, hit his head and died (that's why there's blood on his head when the body is found in the cooler). Turned out that the reason he died was because his wife swapped out his meds for poison (proven by Sun when he feeds the pills to the goldfish and they die)
This was really fun! Yes plot holes but nothing that bothered me. Mond was the best out of the main cast, he made his character so creepy and charismatic but I wasn't on board with Kat forgiving him because he paid back her kindness by being a freakin' psycho. Off was obviously having a good time and some of his reactions as things kept spiraling more and more out of control were hilarious. I think this deserves a higher rating even with the plot holes. Speaking of which, I'll explain what happened to Peerapat in a spoiler reply.
There's a lot I love about this show, especially the performances from Pluem, Baby Ohm, View, Off, Gunsmile and the older actors and also the cinematography. But two big things aren't working for me:
One is that it's so melodramatic and tragic in every scene with no lighter scenes in between to break it up a bit and give you a breather. Eps 1 & 2 managed this better because we did have scenes where the kids were having fun which made the tragedy even more painful. Now I'm kind of eye rolling through some of the melodramatic scenes.
The second problem I have is that the central romance isn't working for me at all. I love Ohm and Tu and they aren't the problem. It's the writing. The romance is progressing way too fast and it feels forced, like at this point of the story there's no reason for these two to be falling for each other. I wish the writer had built it up more organically. As it is I'm practically fast forwarding through their scenes so I can see more from View, Off and the rest of the cast.
Too bad this isn't getting more love because this is much better than the usual GMMTV shows. I think they are investing more in their series as they get more international attention. Off has great chemistry with Jan and it's good to see Louis in a more mature role after the mess they made of his character in Eclipse. The writing is a little wobbly and the idea of an escort app isn't exactly new but it's still fun to see it all play out, esp. with dark humor moments like Mote explaining to Kat why blackmail is a bad idea. The cinematography and music are very good, esp for a low budget productions. I would definitely recommend checking it out.
Okay I was not ready for the EP 6 reveal that Phukhao's mother and Pin were lovers. I thought Santi and Pin were exes and Pin was Mai's mother. So who was Mai's mother??? And is Phukhao's mother leaving her husband to get back together with her girlfriend? Hoo boy that's a lot of drama.
This was the most disappointing episode for me so far. The melodrama really got way too over the top . Yes I know it's a Thai lakorn but the problem is every single scene is super dramatic without light-hearted scenes in between to break it up a little bit like you had in earlier episodes so ep 6 felt like someone was screaming at you all the time.
Also I cannot understand how Phukhao and Kongkwan are suddenly caressing each other. There's been absolutely no plausible build up to that.
I still love Plu and Zo and still find Mai's story compelling. I'm also surprisingly into the story of all the parents and want to learn more about that situation.
In terms of the acting I think Off, View and Pluem are all really strong but something's not hitting with Ohm and Tu. They both keep going way too big in their scenes so I think it must be a directing and writing problem.
I'm loving this show but weirdly the weakest/least compelling part of the story is the relationship between Phukhao and Kongkwan. Love Mai and his relationship with young Phukhao, love Plu and Zo, love Plu and his grandparents, love Zo and her father. I'm very interested in the tangled relationships between all the parents, the theater crew and the crime boss and how all that will play out.
A big theme of the drama is how trauma plays out over multiple generations and how the children are bearing burdens placed on them by the failures of their parents. There's also a strong theme of something precious from the past that's been lost (the defunct traveling film business, the broken down movie theater, clips from classic movies, the motorcycle handed down from Santi to Mai to Phukhao, the tattered novel that's important to Lak and Phukhao's mother, Plu's grandmother losing her memory) but also a sense that there may be a way to carry forward some of the past to a more hopeful future (Kongkwan's battered doll that was given to her by Phukhao).
Yes the show is melodramatic and the central romance is falling a bit flat, but the writing is complex and layered and I love how we learn more and more about the characters and their history with each episode. I'm looking forward to seeing how all of these damaged children heal.
A great example of a show that should have probably been about 10-12 eps. It was okay at the beginning but then…
They were setting up a more substantial storyline for Gwangnam and a romance with the manager but I bet the network killed it. I'll still love this drama forever for the scene where he gives sex advice to Sang Eun.
By contrast, Zo and Nink are great and Phukhao's mother and her girlfriend are at least complex and interesting. Yes it's helped by good performances but it's also there in the script. Kongkwan and the women in her family are written to be symbols, not people.
Some Thai dramas I enjoyed: F4 Thailand, Not Me, Midnight Motel, Bad Buddy, The Gifted, The Shipper. If you don't mind 18+ rating with explicit scenes, KinnPorsche is a crack infused fever dream with great production values.
(on another note, who knew Phukhao's mother would be 100% right about how wrong it was for Luk to get involved with Mai but it was entirely predictable that she would screw up handling it by not telling her husband or Luk's family)
Another problem I had with eps 9 & 10 is how Mai's mother came out of nowhere to be the main supervillain. We didn't get to know her in earlier episodes so it's hard to care that she's turning out to be so important to Mai's death and the problems with Kongkwan's parents. I will say tho that Pluem's scenes with the actress playing his mother were so good, if those scenes worked at all it's because of the incredible performance he's been giving throughout the story.
It's disappointing how this is turning out because I was in love with the drama at first but now it's just a slog. I'll finish it but I can't recommend it.
One is that it's so melodramatic and tragic in every scene with no lighter scenes in between to break it up a bit and give you a breather. Eps 1 & 2 managed this better because we did have scenes where the kids were having fun which made the tragedy even more painful. Now I'm kind of eye rolling through some of the melodramatic scenes.
The second problem I have is that the central romance isn't working for me at all. I love Ohm and Tu and they aren't the problem. It's the writing. The romance is progressing way too fast and it feels forced, like at this point of the story there's no reason for these two to be falling for each other. I wish the writer had built it up more organically. As it is I'm practically fast forwarding through their scenes so I can see more from View, Off and the rest of the cast.
This was the most disappointing episode for me so far. The melodrama really got way too over the top . Yes I know it's a Thai lakorn but the problem is every single scene is super dramatic without light-hearted scenes in between to break it up a little bit like you had in earlier episodes so ep 6 felt like someone was screaming at you all the time.
Also I cannot understand how Phukhao and Kongkwan are suddenly caressing each other. There's been absolutely no plausible build up to that.
I still love Plu and Zo and still find Mai's story compelling. I'm also surprisingly into the story of all the parents and want to learn more about that situation.
In terms of the acting I think Off, View and Pluem are all really strong but something's not hitting with Ohm and Tu. They both keep going way too big in their scenes so I think it must be a directing and writing problem.
A big theme of the drama is how trauma plays out over multiple generations and how the children are bearing burdens placed on them by the failures of their parents. There's also a strong theme of something precious from the past that's been lost (the defunct traveling film business, the broken down movie theater, clips from classic movies, the motorcycle handed down from Santi to Mai to Phukhao, the tattered novel that's important to Lak and Phukhao's mother, Plu's grandmother losing her memory) but also a sense that there may be a way to carry forward some of the past to a more hopeful future (Kongkwan's battered doll that was given to her by Phukhao).
Yes the show is melodramatic and the central romance is falling a bit flat, but the writing is complex and layered and I love how we learn more and more about the characters and their history with each episode. I'm looking forward to seeing how all of these damaged children heal.