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They're being chill ??

Same mais c'etait tellement bien filmé et beau et ils ont tellement d'alchimie que j'arrive pas à detester la scene c'est horrible 😔

Ah mais tu l'as vu ! Oui parce que Porsche était sous GHB donc ca a dérangé certains parce que consentement et tout et d'autre ont pas eu de soucis avec ca parce que Porsche a initié le truc (en mode ca justifie de faire quoi que ce soit avec qqun qui a du GHB dans le sang).
Donc ya ceux que ca derangeait pas qui ont essayé de justifier la scene et c'etait troo bizarre. Genre perso moi ca m'a pas dérangé mais faire genre que le gars est pas drogué et que son enthousiasme=consentement c'est abusé je trouve.
Du coup y'avait la team "ouais vous voyez le mal partout, Porsche le voulait" et la team "genre vous justifiez un v*ol là?".

Ah peut être en vrai mdrr gros débat hier sur la scene final de l'épisode 4. Ya des gens qui ont pas apprécie le contexte et d'autre que ça a pas dérangé. Tu verras !

People spammed the comment because of how excited they were yesterday lol

Turns out they didn't meant the r*pe scene, I misunderstanded them. And yes it's weird to want a r*pe scene instead of what we got.

Ew not GHB 😭😭
That's r*pe drug, it's even worse than I thought!

Definetly on me then, my bad for misunderstanding you, sorry!

There is a difference between reading it and seeing it. That's one of the main reason a lot of people are ok with the bad sh*t that happen it dark romance/mafia books. To say they wanted the actors to enact a violent r*pe scene compared is weird, not matter what you read.

I agree but we're talking about r*pe here. Where one got so hurt he bled.

You and I know that, but there is a reason they didn't go with that. Production always go with the simplest s*x they can

Realistic s*x is not interesting to people, it takes time, effort, and they wanted to go with spontaneity. I mean look at hetero s*x scenes in general, what even is that ?
They always try to glamourise s*x, making it sexy when it's supposed to be messy.
If there is one thing about fiction you should never try to argue with, is about how fictional the s*x scenes are. Nothing more fictional than that. For het s*x you can, if you try really hard, pretend that it's naturally lubbed well down there and the girl is by miracle aroused in 5mn (.....) but yeah gay s*x scenes like that one are the worst. No natural lube, just sand hahahaa

Well they did write the scene in a way that apprently Porsche is somehow enjoying this dry s*x lmaoo

Some people will be proved right and other proved wrong haha. I hope they won't make him forget.

Thank you lmaoo no prep, no candom, no lube, but sure yeah.

Right, he seemed out of it and it was not clearly said what it was

Maybe it'll be just s*x for him, maybe he'll be angry or won't remember. I agree that, though chemistry and attraction seem to be present ,when it comes to romantic feelings, P is not yet there.

Yes and how he will react to them sleepingwith each other. I hope they won't give us a "i dont remember". Everyone defending the pure conscious/consent trope are going to look very stupid if he reacts badly hahaha

Life* sorry. You are entitled to your opinion, don't let the others tell you otherwise. The scene was not fully white and it's okay to have a problem with it 😉

You very well expressed how I personally feel about that scene!! I 100% agree with everything you said. I feel like the clear chemistry and attraction that exist between them and how we view it and process it is what makes the difference between those who are somewhat okay with the scene and those who aren't. I can't deny the fact that they feel for each other and that's why I can be "okay" with it and can see Porsche making the first move as sincere and "willing" on his part even though he's not in full control of his capacities. They definetly want each other. But we still can't ignore that Porsche has been drugged.